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SUNY professor says Trump win at least 87 percent certain; other polls 'bunk'
The Post-Standard ^ | October 19, 2016 | Kevin Tampone

Posted on 10/19/2016 1:15:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Stony Brook, N.Y. — A SUNY professor continues to project Donald Trump as the likely winner of this year's election and he's critiquing polls that predict the opposite in a new opinion piece.

Helmut Norpoth has been predicting a Trump victory since early this year. His model currently projects a win for the Republican with a certainty of 87 to 99 percent.

Norpoth is a professor at Stony Brook University on Long Island.

That flies in the face of just about every other major election forecast out there, which mostly give an edge to Democrat Hillary Clinton, notes the Daily Mail.

Norpoth wrote in The Hill that although the race looks decided, current polling methods are "bunk."

The projections for Clinton are all based on opinion polls, which are flawed because they don't reflect actions, Norpoth wrote. They're about what voters think of Clinton or Trump, but they can't tell us exactly how voters will act on those thoughts.

"It is ingrained in all of us that voting is civic duty," he says. "So nearly all of us say, oh yes, I'll vote, and then many will not follow through."

Instead of opinion polling, Norpoth relies on statistics from candidates' performances in party primaries and patterns in the electoral cycle to forecast results. The model correctly predicted the victor in every presidential election since 1996, according to the Daily Mail.

Running the model on earlier campaigns comes up with the correct outcome for every race since 1912, except the 1960 election.

Norpoth wrote on his site that Trump's victories in early primary states are key predictors of his chances in November. The cycle also favors the GOP after two terms of a Democrat in the White House.

"So hold off on trusting poll-driven proclamations of a Clinton victory just yet," Norpoth wrote in The Hill. "Voters have a way of always getting the last word."


TOPICS: Campaign News; Polls
KEYWORDS: hillary; polls; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
except the 1960 election

Uh-oh.

21 posted on 10/19/2016 1:39:04 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please, God. I remember how sick I felt when Obama easily beat Romney and all of us had been so hopeful back then.


22 posted on 10/19/2016 1:42:26 PM PDT by Ciexyz (After eight years of Obama, I can't afford to buy nothin'.)
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To: scbison

Hope he factored in a boatload of cheating for 2016.


23 posted on 10/19/2016 1:43:38 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please if you have not entered your prayer request on the prayer thread please go now and join us in prayer...there is power in numbers!!!


24 posted on 10/19/2016 1:45:07 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: scbison
His model has 1960 correct as that election was won by cheating

Well, we can expect cheating this time too.

25 posted on 10/19/2016 1:46:10 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I hope he's right, but

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26 posted on 10/19/2016 1:48:11 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ah yes.


27 posted on 10/19/2016 1:51:59 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: surroundedbyblue

It won’t be that close to steal.


28 posted on 10/19/2016 2:04:07 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Zeneta

It is logic based on history.


29 posted on 10/19/2016 2:05:12 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: scbison

true dat


30 posted on 10/19/2016 2:09:22 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lyndon Baines Johnson, Son Of Satan.

You left out his title.

31 posted on 10/19/2016 2:13:50 PM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell Is Not Paved With Good Results)
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It won’t even be close to steal the Election like in 1960 where the popular vote win was less than 1/2%

49.72% - 49.55%


32 posted on 10/19/2016 2:15:30 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
LBJ was a master at vote fraud.

See for example How Johnson Won Election He'd Lost, a 1990 review of the second volume of Robert Caro's biography of LBJ.

In the South Texas town of Alice, for instance, the last 202 voters lined up to vote in alphabetic order.

33 posted on 10/19/2016 2:22:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: scbison

In 2000, did he predict the electoral college vote or the popular vote correctly?


34 posted on 10/19/2016 2:35:13 PM PDT by dangus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hope this guys got tenure!

But, then it won’t matter when the bring a fake sex alegation.


35 posted on 10/19/2016 2:40:21 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: dangus

He predicted the popular vote in 2000 which was correct


36 posted on 10/19/2016 2:52:13 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Donald Trump is not my cup of tea. And I don't have a favorable opinion of him--and I will be at my polling place 1/2 hour before it opens to unapologetically "pull the lever" for him.

I am so angry right now. I want to send a giant FU to the GOPe, the Enemedia, and the Clintonese Crime Family.

37 posted on 10/19/2016 2:59:40 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1960 the one exception, and that one the DemocRATs stole with vote fraud in TX and IL.

So the model seems to be 100% accurate since 1912!!


38 posted on 10/19/2016 4:52:53 PM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, I know one *other* model predicting a Trump win:


39 posted on 10/19/2016 10:10:22 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bookmark.


40 posted on 10/20/2016 12:32:46 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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