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Lawyer: Terri still in danger
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 22, 2003, 5:15 p.m. Eastern | By Sarah Foster

Posted on 10/22/2003 2:50:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Family barred from visiting brain-disabled woman, judge drags feet on appointment of new guardian

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Posted: October 22, 2003

5:15 p.m. Eastern

ven though Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and state legislature yesterday halted the court-ordered starvation death of brain-disabled Terri Schindler-Schiavo, her family and legal counsel are afraid her life will be increasingly at risk as long as the courts allow her husband to remain her guardian and do not appoint a guardian ad litem as demanded by the special legislation that was passed.

"My greatest fear is that Michael [Schiavo] will order Terri out of the hospital before she is medically stabilized and rehydrated – as he did three times last August when she had pneumonia," said Patricia Anderson, attorney for Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler.

"That is why we need a guardian ad litem," she added. "That is what Terri's Bill is about. We've got to have a guardian ad litem to put a stop to that kind of hijinks, because his primary objective is to kill her."

Schiavo very nearly succeeded in his five-year quest to end his wife's life by court-approved starvation. With only a few hours remaining before she slipped beyond the point where she could be saved, Florida lawmakers yesterday delivered to the governor legislation empowering him to order Schiavo's feeding tube reinserted, and Bush signed the life-saving law as well as an implementing executive order.

"Terri's Bill" specifically directs the chief judge (David Demers) of the 6th Judicial Circuit Court to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent Terri "upon issuance of a stay," but he has not yet done so – which Anderson views as a matter of urgency.

"Terri will be out of danger only when Michael is no longer her guardian and no longer has access to her," she said bluntly.

Crowds of demonstrators cheered wildly, as Terri was transferred by ambulance from Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla., to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater, about 25 miles away, where upon her feeding tube was reinserted and rehydration begun after her six days ordeal of judge-ordered starvation.

Family locked out

No sooner was his wife admitted to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater, Fla., than Schiavo sent an order barring Terri's parents and siblings from visiting her.

The Schindlers were not informed of Schiavo's action, and only learned of it late that evening from Terri's brother, who had driven to the hospital to visit his sister and was escorted from the premises by an armed security guard. Bobby Schindler, 38, told WorldNetDaily he was told by the administrator on duty that Schiavo had left instructions that "no family members, no anybody is to visit Terri," and that they were to be given no information about her medical condition.

Schindler was too exhausted by worry over the fate of his sister and the events of the past seven days to express anger. But he said he's not surprised by this recent action by Schiavo.

"Michael's been doing this kind of thing for almost as long as he's been guardian of my sister," he exclaimed. "It's been going on for over a decade and it continues. Even after the governor stepped in and did what he did today, [Schiavo] continues to use his power as a weapon against our family and Terri."

It's one of many times her husband has ordered Terri isolated from family and those close to her. In mid-August, he barred a Roman Catholic priest from visiting her at Morton Plant Hospital where she was taken due to a sudden medical crisis.

Schiavo said his action that time was prompted by a late-evening visit by Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski, a former Army chaplain, who had been asked by Terri's father to drop by the hospital to see how she was faring.

Even though the monsignor was on a court-approved list of visitors and regularly visited her at the hospice where she has been a patient for three years, Schiavo had a long-standing policy that no one could visit Terri unaccompanied either by himself or family member and that Malanowski had knowingly violated his order.

Schiavo's attorney Deborah Bushnell told WorldNetDaily that her client was concerned about Malanowski's "integrity" and felt the 81-year-old priest was not "the kind of person that he wanted visiting Terri or that he felt comfortable visiting Terri." Eventually he relented slightly and the monsignor was allowed to resume his visits subject to week-to-week approval by Schiavo.

Last Wednesday, the day Terri's feeding tube was removed, Schiavo's attorneys ordered family members barred from being alone with Terri at the hospice following Robert Schindler's release to the media of a videotape distributed in evidence that the woman is not in a "persistent vegetative state," as Schiavo's advocates claim.

Schindler admitted the tape was made surreptitiously in violation of a court order by probate Judge George Greer of the Pinellas-County Circuit Court. The video, which shows Terri alert and laughing and trying to speak, further indicates attempts at rehabilitative therapy, also banned by the courts.

Following the video's release, her family was told they were barred from visiting the dying woman "unless [Schiavo] or his representative is present."

In at least one instance, the "representative" that accompanied Robert and Mary Schindler to the bedside of their daughter was none other than the mother of Schiavo's mistress, Jodi Centonze, with whom he has been living for a number of years. He and Centonze have a 1-year-old daughter and are expecting a second child.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the Schindlers had been fighting their son-in-law for 10 years over the lack of care and therapy Schiavo as her guardian provided for their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under mysterious circumstances at the age of 26.

The ongoing dispute escalated five years ago when Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to end his wife's life by removing her feeding tube, insisting she is in a "persistent vegetative state" and had told him years before she would not want to be maintained "by tubes" and "artificial means." Although Terri breathes on her on and maintains her own blood pressure, she requires a simple tube into her abdomen to her stomach for nourishment and hydration.

The Schindlers fought tenaciously to keep their daughter and the case alive in the courts, but they have been basically blocked at every turn, in particular by Greer, who has had charge of the case almost from the beginning. When the seven-member Florida Supreme Court in August turned down a petition to review the case, the way was clear for Schiavo to starve his wife to death.

On Sept. 17, Greer scheduled Oct. 15 as the day Terri's feeding tube would be removed. At the same time, in separate rulings, he denied any rehabilitation for the disabled woman or a chance to be spoon-fed.

Information on Terri's fight for life is posted on the family's website.


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To: yhwhsman
Not only Michael, but the MOTHER IN LAW TO BE holding vigil by the deathbed - that is too bizarre for words, can you imagine? I guess she wants to make sure there is a wedding ring in her daughter's future. (Shiver).
201 posted on 10/22/2003 11:14:40 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: najida
And (from what I gather) when she collapsed, he wasn't doing CPR, she was just lying there when the brother arrived.

He is an RT, HE would know better!

You know I wondered about this myself. He is supposedly either a nurse or had nurse's training. Why no CPR? If that had been my husband I wouldn't have stopped until the EMT's got there. Maybe her brain wouldn't have been without oxygen as long?
202 posted on 10/22/2003 11:16:23 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: Graymatter
I think she'd better watch her back.
203 posted on 10/22/2003 11:22:24 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: greccogirl
//I think she'd better watch her back.//

Maybe she's planning on his attacking her shortly after they're married. Then she gets all the money.
204 posted on 10/22/2003 11:23:28 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: FreedomMan_CA
There seems to be a persistent delusion here that someone in a coma or PVS has to look like they were fast asleep. Not so. I was a Paramedic for 4 years, and we saw more than a few people who suffered horrific head injuries from which they would never recover who opened their eyes, thrashed around a bit, made faces and noises, and even a few who had to be tied down. Its not an uncommon phenomenon.

Well, except Terri ISN'T thrashing around. She is responding, her eyes are lighting up and she is smiling. That is a relfex action?

Bottom line is that its not just me disagreeing with you, its the Docs who've been overseeing Terri's care. I would tend to believe their opinion over yours, and also over the doctors hired by the Schindlers specifically to contradict her original Doctors testimony.

Okay. How about believing the independent reviewer that Judge Greer appointed who said Terri should have rehab and Michael should be removed as her guardian as he was not trustworthy? You know, the one Judge Greer ignored after he appointed him? How do you explain this?

205 posted on 10/22/2003 11:24:46 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: supercat
I don't know WHAT she is thinking. She must be quite meek and weak willed. Michael Schavio does not strike me as the type who takes much backtalk.
206 posted on 10/22/2003 11:28:44 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: yhwhsman
His current girl friend is an IDIOT if she doesn't get out of there with the kids FAST after seeing what is happening to Terri.
207 posted on 10/23/2003 1:44:54 AM PDT by Coral Snake ((deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz); ))
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To: sweetliberty
You guys are sure finding a lit more food stuff on the Michael Schiavo - George Felos duo than I had when I posted this thread to get some kind of a Criminal Prosicution effort going while Terri was being dehydrated:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1004242/posts
It is NOW Time for CRIMINAL PROSICUTION for Michael Schiavo

Keep up the good work on finding these goodies. We cant ket him "SKATE"!!!

208 posted on 10/23/2003 2:09:49 AM PDT by Coral Snake ((deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz); ))
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To: Coral Snake
"His current girl friend is an IDIOT if she doesn't get out of there with the kids FAST after seeing what is happening to Terri."

Supposedly she has been with him for 7 years. Hard to know if she is an idiot or an accomplice.

209 posted on 10/23/2003 2:26:44 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: iowamomforfreedom
He sure is full of himself. I get a kick out of watching him preen and grin for the camera when he knows he's on. I always love 'experts.'
210 posted on 10/23/2003 6:21:21 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: aristeides
I think the law is constitutional. I do not think that the FL Supreme Court (almost entirely Chiles appointees) will rule the law constitutional, however. Therefore, the future for Terri is bleak, both in the short-term (Schiavo will remain the decisionmaker) and the long-term (court will strike down Terri's Law. The machinery of the corrupt FL judiciary is determined to kill this poor creature.
211 posted on 10/23/2003 6:42:43 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Catspaw
What kind of legislation do you think would not violate separation of powers, by dictating to the judiciary (which I take it is your objection to this law)?
212 posted on 10/23/2003 7:41:34 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
What kind of legislation do you think would not violate separation of powers, by dictating to the judiciary (which I take it is your objection to this law)?

When I talked about legislative action in this case a few days ago, it was changes in the living will statute itself (I think it's 765.03, but I could be wrong--and without a grandfather clause, to allow the Schindlers to get into court & get a TRO to replace the feeding tube) concerning feeding tubes & hydration, clarify what the courts should do in disputed cases (mandate a GAL for example), legislation much broader than this legislation specifically tailored to one case that has, in effect, overrode a court order. One of the state senators said they'd correct the statute in another session (she voted for the bill), but if that's their legislative intent, they could have done so during this session. Because this law is too narrowly tailored and is specific to only the Schiavo-Schindler case, with its legislative intent to negate the court order in this specific case, it's going to have trouble surviving a Constitutional test. The question is: does this law usurp the inherent powers of the judiciary by the executive and legislative branches of government?

They may have won the battle, but they haven't won the war.

213 posted on 10/23/2003 8:00:02 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
Bump --- affadavit by registered nurse Carla Iyer, who was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in Largo, Florida from April 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo was a patient there.
214 posted on 10/23/2003 8:29:21 AM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Catspaw
Lots of legislation is very narrowly tailored. (I recommend you take a look at the tax legislation Congress passes every year. Lots of the new provisions have obviously been designed with a particular constituent in mind. In form, they are general, although the conditions under which they apply are very narrowly defined. Same story here.) As far as I know, such legislation always survives attack on that ground, unless it happens to be a bill of attainder, penalizing somebody. This is not a bill of attainder.
215 posted on 10/23/2003 8:33:20 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Does that tax legislation overturn a court order?
216 posted on 10/23/2003 8:36:19 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: ordinaryguy
Bump --- affadavit by registered nurse Carla Iyer, who was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in Largo, Florida from April 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo was a patient there.
217 posted on 10/23/2003 8:43:43 AM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Catspaw
This legislation has to do with the law for the future. How does that overturn a court order? Nobody will say that Michael Schiavo was not his wife's guardian up to the time the legislation was passed.

And some retroactive tax legislation is allowed, by the way. This law is not retroactive.

218 posted on 10/23/2003 9:09:31 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
This legislation was narrowly tailored for the Schiavo case only.

I hope that Jeb and the Florida legislature are going to step in everytime litigation is not resolved to one party's satisfaction. It'd be their obligation, would it not?

219 posted on 10/23/2003 9:28:21 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: First_Salute
I just read that RN's testimony.
I'm an RN.

Makes me want to do something, like kick M. Schiavo in the *alls with my cowboy boots. Like a thousand times. I am so mad, it makes me think of violence. God help us.
220 posted on 10/23/2003 11:46:16 AM PDT by NebraskaTrailrider (("Anyone who thinks a horse is dumb, is dumb." Roy Rogers))
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