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A Big Change in the War Over Judges? (Evidence the Dem Strategy is Backfiring)
National Review ^ | 11/20/03 | Byron York

Posted on 11/20/2003 6:17:40 AM PST by BlackRazor

A Big Change in the War Over Judges?

There's new evidence the Democrats' strategy is backfiring.

After a week of intense and highly public maneuvering over the president's judicial nominees, Republicans fear they are losing the inside-the-Beltway spin battle over the issue but believe they are making measurable progress in the outside-the-Beltway war to make Democrats pay a political price for blocking a slate of judges.

On the one hand, Republicans are increasingly frustrated by the lack of press interest in a series of leaked memos which show Democrats working in close coordination — and sometimes appearing to take orders from — left-wing interest groups that oppose the president's nominees.

On the other hand, internal Republican polling shows what appears to be an increasingly negative public attitude toward Democratic filibusters of Bush nominees, suggesting that the obstruction might hurt some Democratic Senate candidates in next year's elections.

First, the polling. Since the beginning of this year, the Senate Republican leadership has commissioned a monthly poll to try to learn whether the public is aware of what GOP senators are doing on a number of key issues. The purpose of the poll is to give senators something scientific to supplement the anecdotal "people are talking about this" stories they hear when visiting their home states.

The most recent such poll was conducted after last week's Senate marathon debate over judges. Pollster David Winston asked 1,000 registered voters a simple, open-ended question: Have you seen, heard, or read anything about what Republicans in the Senate are doing? Of those who had, Winston then asked whether what respondents had heard had made them more favorable or less favorable to Republican Senate candidates. Winston also asked the same questions about Democrats.

In the latest poll, Senate Republicans were particularly interested in the responses of independent voters. "You know the judges issue works well for our base, and it works well for their base," says Winston. "The question here was for independents and those people who aren't part of either base. How would they react?"

What Winston found was that a significant number of independent voters are aware of the judicial fight — it was the number one thing many had heard of in the preceding week. And those independents who were aware of the battle came away with a significantly more negative view of Democrats than of Republicans.

When independents were asked whether the judicial fight had given them a more or less favorable view of Republican candidates, 45 percent said more favorable, while 41 percent said less favorable. But when asked about Democratic candidates, 40 percent said the judicial fight had given them a more favorable view, while 55 percent said less favorable.

The results confirmed GOP suspicions that the judges issue is not so much a winner for Republicans as it is a loser for Democrats. "Democrats worsened their standing with independents as a result of the debate," Winston says. "The Democratic base may have gotten fired up, but their standing with independents got worse."

What is even more-welcome news to Republicans is the idea that independent voters see the battle over judges as part of a pattern of Democratic obstruction of GOP initiatives. "One of the outcomes of the 2002 election was the perception that the Senate had blocked homeland security and prescription drugs," Winston says. "That was a big negative for Democrats. This [the judicial nominations fight] feeds into a pre-existing image from the 2002 election."

The poll results have encouraged Senate Republicans. "The positive thing was instead of it just being the base that cares about judges, there are a lot of other people who care about judges," says one. "We need to do everything we can to make sure that the people who aren't the base know what is going on."

The other major news this week, the leaked Democratic memos, has been frustrating for Republicans. First reported by the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the memos have stirred an uproar in conservative circles but have received virtually no attention anywhere else.

The memos, dating from 2001 until April 2003, are mostly from Democratic staffers to Senators Richard Durbin and Edward Kennedy. They show how Democrats granted the demands of groups like People for the American Way, the Alliance for Justice, NARAL, and the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights in the fight over Bush judges. For example, in one memo to Durbin, dated November 7, 2001, a staffer described a meeting with the groups in which they "identified Miguel Estrada (D.C. Circuit) as especially dangerous, because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment. They [the groups] want to hold Estrada off as long as possible." Democrats, then in control of the Senate, did not grant Estrada a vote in the Judiciary Committee. When Republicans won the Senate and voted Estrada out of committee, Democrats, following the groups' wishes, filibustered the nomination. Estrada eventually withdrew his name from consideration.

Another memo, to Kennedy, dated April 17, 2002, details how the NAACP Legal Defense Fund asked that Democrats on the Judiciary Committee delay the confirmation of Bush nominee Julia Scott Gibbons to the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. Democrats had no objections to Gibbons, but the NAACP Legal Defense Fund did not want her to vote on the University of Michigan affirmative action case then before the circuit court. The Democratic staffers who wrote the memo conceded that they were "a little concerned about the propriety of scheduling hearings based on the resolution of a particular case." They also admitted that "the 6th Circuit is in dire need of additional judges." Still, given the NAACP Legal Defense Fund's demand, they recommended "that Gibbons be scheduled for a later hearing." Gibbons was not confirmed until after the University of Michigan case was decided.

Taken together, the memos present a devastating picture of Democrats working virtually under the control of the interest groups. Yet the documents have received little coverage outside the conservative press, and much of that has focused not on the substance of the memos but on how they became public.

Democrats have not disavowed any of the material in the memos but have instead claimed that the documents were stolen by Republicans from Democratic computer files. Now, Democratic leaders are demanding an investigation of alleged Republican misconduct. Although there is no evidence to support the Democrats' claim, the Washington Post's only story on the memo matter so far has been a brief wire-service account headlined "Apparent Theft of Democratic Memos Probed." The New York Times, along with the broadcast networks, have ignored the story altogether.

The success of the Democrats' "they stole it" strategy has frustrated some Republicans. "It allows the Democrats to change the subject from their inappropriate-at-best and unethical-at-worst behavior," says one. "They've never denied this stuff."

Still, as maddening as it is to some in the GOP, the fight over the memos appears to be a relatively small matter compared to the apparently increasing public awareness of the Democratic filibusters of Bush nominees. While most voters will not pay attention to the details of the memos, they appear to be coming to the conclusion that Democrats are blocking the president's choices for the federal bench, and they are connecting that with other Democratic attempts to obstruct the Bush agenda. That's the big picture, and it is one fraught with danger for Democrats and the liberal groups that support them.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: courts; electionussenate; filibuster; judges; memogate; polls; scotus; senate
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1 posted on 11/20/2003 6:17:40 AM PST by BlackRazor
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To: section9; eureka!; PhiKapMom; Miss Marple; Dog; Pubbie; deport; GraniteStateConservative
On the other hand, internal Republican polling shows what appears to be an increasingly negative public attitude toward Democratic filibusters of Bush nominees, suggesting that the obstruction might hurt some Democratic Senate candidates in next year's elections.

Stay the course, in spite of the screaming by the 24/7 crowd.

2 posted on 11/20/2003 6:25:31 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Howlin
What Winston found was that a significant number of independent voters are aware of the judicial fight — it was the number one thing many had heard of in the preceding week. And those independents who were aware of the battle came away with a significantly more negative view of Democrats than of Republicans.


With the proper exposure during the 04 campaign I think much of the obstructionist tactics of the democrats can be exposed....

3 posted on 11/20/2003 6:41:41 AM PST by deport
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To: BlackRazor
Republicans are increasingly frustrated by the lack of press interest in ......

They need to accept that the media is extremely biased and go around the media.

4 posted on 11/20/2003 6:45:06 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: BlackRazor
This is clearly due to the decline of the rat media's ability to lie for the rats and not be called on it.
The situation will only get worse for the rats because more people are paying attention to events. As the ad copy says
"An educated [ voter ] is our best customer.
5 posted on 11/20/2003 6:47:58 AM PST by jmaroneps37 ( Please support how-odd? dean in the primaries. That just might get us 4 more senate seats!)
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To: Coop
Exactly! Let the the current situation run its course.

The Democratic party's obstructionism isn't doing its 2004 Senate candidates any favors. The filibuster has fired up GOP loyalists and, it seems, has begun to alienate some independents.

Besides, there's only so much Republicans can do with only 51 senators (including Chaffee, Snowe, Collins, Specter and McCain). Right now, it's not even clear if the "nuclear option" would garner the necessary 50 votes.

Next November, however, should bring the GOP some much-needed backup. Heck, if Dean ends up with the Democratic nomination, Republicans even might have the sixty votes necessary to break the filibuster. In any event, they definitely will be be in a much stronger position.

Forgive the cliche, but Democrats may be winning the battle, but they'll lose the war. The best they can hope for is to hold out for, maybe, another year.

6 posted on 11/20/2003 6:59:56 AM PST by Magnum Fan
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To: Magnum Fan
From all accounts I've read it's fair to say the GOP flat out does not have the votes to go "nuclear."
7 posted on 11/20/2003 7:06:56 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: BlackRazor
The difficulty with illustrating the pervasive liberal media bias is that it most often involves what is NOT said more than what actually is said (which is bad enough). Dan Rather can lead off his newscast with some biased CBS -poll negative towards the President, but take 20 seconds during any of his newscasts to mention Democrat shenanigans? Naaaaaah. You won't hear anything like that from "I'm standing up to the fire" Dan.
8 posted on 11/20/2003 7:07:11 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: Coop; Mo1
. While most voters will not pay attention to the details of the memos, they appear to be coming to the conclusion that Democrats are blocking the president's choices for the federal bench, and they are connecting that with other Democratic attempts to obstruct the Bush agenda. That's the big picture, and it is one fraught with danger for Democrats and the liberal groups that support them.
9 posted on 11/20/2003 7:12:49 AM PST by Dog
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To: Coop
True. I suspect we've seen many of the same accounts.

To be honest, I still think it's something of a longshot for the GOP to get to sixty senators next November (or 59, plus Ben Nelson, who presumably still would vote to break the filibuster), but it's not unrealistic, either. Again, Howard Dean as the Dem nominee would bump up our numbers nicely.

Even if Republicans fall short of sixty, though, I'm pretty confident they will have enough to sustain the "nuclear option," if it comes to that.

10 posted on 11/20/2003 7:15:13 AM PST by Magnum Fan
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To: Magnum Fan
Even if Republicans fall short of sixty, though, I'm pretty confident they will have enough to sustain the "nuclear option," if it comes to that.

Honestly, I'd be very surprised if - even with Dean on the ballot - the GOP could get to 60. Too much would have to go right, IMHO. But I do agree they'd probably have the nuclear votes, if the Dems were dumb enough to once again not learn a lesson.

11 posted on 11/20/2003 7:17:02 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: BlackRazor
These poll numbers might encourage the current GOP to get push a little more and maybe see that nuclear could be a winner.
12 posted on 11/20/2003 7:19:55 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: BlackRazor
Just one more year and the democrats will totally Whig-out. Thier little party will be over. Just one more year 'til they are gone to the land of Total Irrelevance.
13 posted on 11/20/2003 7:26:29 AM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: VRWC_minion; Poohbah; Southack; mhking; Chancellor Palpatine; Catspaw; wimpycat
No votes to break a filibuster. Votes are NOT there for the nuke.

So Frist and Bush have gone to Plan C: Make the Dems pay a political price. And the Dems have played into it with obstructionism.

The Dems are going to cross the AARP and fight the Medicare reform bill. They are blocking the judges. But they are being painted into a very vicious corner. 2004 is shaping up nicely...

The Dems are headed right for a very nasty gauntlet. Has anyone checked to see if Raymond Spruance's ghost has been hanging around the White House? Because Bush sure seems to be doing things the way Spruance did `em 60 years ago.
14 posted on 11/20/2003 7:32:35 AM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: BlackRazor
Duh! All close elections are decided by the independent middle. Neither base is large enough by itself to reach a majority in close elections. That's why this judicial obstructionism will be so damaging to Democratic Senators in close, swing states next November. Several switches are coming if the incumbents don't begin showing some fight against the Ted Kennedy's on the left. Ted doesn't travel south or west very well.
15 posted on 11/20/2003 8:20:23 AM PST by Swampmarine
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To: hchutch
Reminds me of the young bull and the old bull.
16 posted on 11/20/2003 8:24:13 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: BlackRazor
All this strikes me as whistling past the graveyard.

When you consider how hyperpartisan the Senate DemocRATs have become, nothing less than a filibuster-proof majority will allow the GOP to confirm judges or pass legislation that the RAT core constituencies oppose. In fact I read that a RAT senator has placed an anonymous hold on all Bush appointees.

The GOP needs to go for the nuclear option, and abolish the Senate DemocRATs' ability to obstruct by filibuster and holds. These are extra-constitutional, non-legislative Senate customs that may have been appropriate in a more temperate time, but which now only allow an irredentist minority to thwart the will of the majority of the Senate, and the majority of Americans.

17 posted on 11/20/2003 8:44:24 AM PST by white trash redneck
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To: Poohbah
Yep.

"We're going to WALK down the hill, GO AROUND the fence, and f*** ALL of those cows."
18 posted on 11/20/2003 8:44:35 AM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: white trash redneck
So what happens when they go nuclear and publicly lose the vote?
19 posted on 11/20/2003 8:57:32 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: hchutch
Who is Spruance?
20 posted on 11/20/2003 10:01:18 AM PST by lizbet (If we don't start buy American made things, we won't have any jobs.)
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