FREE REPUBLIC'S PATRIOTIC TABLE AT TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO'S 40th BIRTHDAY FREE REPUBLIC'S TABLE

Conservative-Spirit.Org | December 5, 2003 | floriduh voter

[floriduh voter]

I arrived at Hospice Woodside Wednesday afternoon at about 4:15 p.m. I waited for a deluxe table to accommodate the lovely floral arrangement for the Schindler Family from freeper gwb and gop man, also on behalf of talk radio in Savannah, Ga and floriduh voter.

The flowers arrived before gwb and gop man and I drove them to Hospice Woodside with other decorations for Free Republic's table #8.

Freepers, the theme for our table went back to the founding fathers. Printed artwork from Dover Publications was of lady liberty standing side by side with an eagle, a town crier crying "Hear Ye, Hear Ye, Terri's forty!", and another eagle with a banner with "Protection" on it.

In addition, the donation cup on Free Republic's table consisted of a flag, a small gavel taped onto it and hanging on by a twist tie, my Daniel Webster beanie baby. Daniel just happened to be carrying a cloth book entited "LAW". Daniel Webster made some cash for the Foundation.

I brought a large crystal drum of the fife and drum variety filled with peppermints and butter rum candies.

I brought my Photo Album that documented October 13th. In addition, thanks to another freeper, I printed out a 17 page list of all the threads that were posted for Terri at Free Republic through November 18, 2003. I put Free Republic's Logo in a stand up picture frame and also wore my name tag from the Friva Conference held in Las Vegas in August of 2001.

There were also pewter battery-type candles on our table by the floral arrangement of white roses, iris's, stattis, baby's breath, day lilies, etc. All of the above came together on a long table that I held out for.

Please bookmark this thread and hopefully, when other freepers in attendance and myself get our film developed, we could put our jpegs in one location. Please excuse all the "I"s but this is my account from a freeper's perspective. Unfortunately, Buffy the chicken was not in attendance. If you'd like to see her picture again, let me know.

Nancy aka floriduh voter

[floriduh voter]

Here's the deal with King. He's a fat cat Republican whose in the Hospice Hall of Fame. I wonder how many home runs he hit to get in that Hall of Shame. I hate to spoil the Birthday Party thread with his image but let's face it -he's spoiling the Republication Party too.

He voted for Terri's Law, but reluctantly. FV

[floriduh voter]

McCabe should have received lots of snail mail from freepers and Terri's Angels, Terri's Fight and Terri's Defenders. I sent him a lovely card requesting that he do his job. I'm sure he can't do his job because he's golfing buddies with all the ghouls.

[floriduh voter]

It is just a tube. It's not like Terri isn't breathing on her own and she even discerns day and night among other things. She's a human being and even if John Doe states that "he wouldn't want to live that way", it's not up to John Doe, healthy, marathon running judges or a creepy, buddhist attorney with a psychopathic sleazy client who WILL RECEIVE LIFE INSURANCE MONEY (but there's no decedent). Can't collect!!! Oh my...

[GWB and GOP Man]

Exactly UCANSEE2. These pro-death savages are the ultimate hypocrites!
They conveniently talk their trash about "dying and death with dignity" because they are currently in good health. They can advocate, condone, support, encourage, champion, rationalize, and justify abortion because they are already here. They weren't aborted by their mothers.

This same, arrogant, ignorant and shameful bunch of cretins typically endorses anti-gun legislation, that is, of course, until THEY or a member of THEIR family is a victim of a violent crime.

They are pro-life for the convicted killer on death row and pro-abortion and pro-death for the sick, weak and unwanted - the most defenseless members of our society such as innocent unborn children, Terri Schindler-Schiavo and others in her condition.

These pro-abortion, pro-death liberals are the most despicable creatures to ever plague this planet.

[GWB and GOP Man]

It appears someone should take away King's fork and knife for a few days! Or at least discourage him from using them as often.

[GWB and GOP Man]

...as it appears he uses them.

[eartotheground]

ROTFLMAO! Go to post 175 and you'll see a petition that we circulated last summer to try and get rid of King. Every physician in Florida hates his guts because he said there "will be blood in the streets" before he would endorse medical liability reform. He won a temporary reprieve since the law passed (greatly weakend thanks to his efforts). He needs to get kicked out of the republican party. I don't know how he became president of the florida senate. He is on the wrong side of every conservative issue. Only options I know of are:

1. Petition Jeb Bush to have him suspended (very difficult if not impossible)

2. Throw him out of the Republican party (it has been done before, refer to David Duke)

3. Uncover some scandal he was involved in (possible)

He is obviously in bed with the trial attorneys, paid off or something we don't know.

[Dante3]

And lets keep up the pressure.

[walford]

It may be that Senator Jim King does not even face voters until 2006. He will be hard to dislodge.

'Hard to dislodge?' Review the pic in #221. He'd be hard to dislodge from Jupiter's orbit. But ya know, ladies and gentlemen...

[KDubRN]

1. Petition Jeb Bush to have him suspended (very difficult if not impossible)

2. Throw him out of the Republican party (it has been done before, refer to David Duke)

3. Uncover some scandal he was involved in (possible)

He is obviously in bed with the trial attorneys, paid off or something we don't know.

I'd go with the trial attorneys

[KDubRN]

Sent to.......
publicrelations@endoflifechoices.org, caringfriends@endoflifechoices.org, info@endoflifechoices.org,
chapter@endoflifechoices.org
WITH BCC to WHBUNKLEY,
William H. Bunkley
Legislative & Governmental Consultant

The Bunkley Group, Inc.
P. O. Box 273196
Tampa, FL. 33688-3196
Office 813-264-2977 Fax 813-969-4772


The majority of people in this country believe murder of a disabled, brain damaged woman is against the law. Even more agree that murder is against the law. This is not a political issue. However, politicians are smack in the middle of this mess due to the lobbying of special interest groups (EOLC), and personal agendas, which are to the detriment of the citizens of this country. You are the minority. You need assist to advance your euthanasia, so head for Florida where there is controversy over Terri Schiavo, ill and infirm elderly, illiterate, and cultural and language barriers. Baby step the populace into the idea.

First, I address the PVS misinformation of Terri Schiavo. PVS is misdiagnosed 40% of the time. Some studies give higher percentages of misdiagnosis among the experts. Neurologists cannot agree on a definition or diagnosis. If the medical experts cannot agree, since 1972, why does the Florida legislature and Jim King, create laws defining a medical disease? They are not licensed to practice medicine, nor do they understand medical pathophysiology. There are three times the number of specialists that disagree with Schiavo's docs. That is on the record.

Secondly, Terri had no documents stating her wishes. Thus, we have hearsay evidence presented by the husband and his family, with a definite conflict of interest, and with the courts acknowledging Michael Schiavo's hearsay Vs no acknowledgment of Terri Schiavo as a disabled American. Any conversation this gal had with her husband prior to her injury did not include feeding tubes as a method of life support. Further, the bill deeming feeding tubes as such, was not in existence prior to Terri's collapse. Nobody knows Terri's true wishes. These are facts.

For the life of me, I could not understand why republican officials were so hell bent on killing this girl. I researched End-of-Life Choices, who changed their name from Hemlock Society, as that is more aesthetically pleasing and acceptable to the populace, as a whole. I am profoundly curious as to why you and your organization feel the need to change medical ethics, and shove your euthanasia issue down my throat. I am aware of the organizations who support Hemlock, and their contributions. Dr. Crandall, involved in the Schiavo case, who diagnosed Terri as PVS, is a known member of Hemlock/EOLC.

I am sure you are well aware of Felos and his landmark Browning case. So, we have another death culture advocate involved here. I know his agenda. I am most curious in what he has to say about legalizing murder/euthanasia at the expense of Terri Schiavo. Your organization is using Michael Schiavo, and Terri, who is a victim, to advance your agenda of mercy killing. Psychology labels your actions as sociopathic.

I am familiar with Jim King and his sloppy legislation on the feeding tube inclusion on his original bill. I also know his comments and ego driven legacy, and why he won't allow the Wise bill on the floor for discussion. He is a member of EOLC/Hemlock as well, and is on the Board of the Hospice where Terri resides. Thus, we have another death culture advocate. At least the Wise bill takes measures to correct another Terri situation. What King did in advancing his bill to include feeding tubes, was push politics into the medical profession. We now have a medical definition of PVS, and we have a Florida law definition of PVS. We have judges mandating death based on a diagnosis, but the medical or the state diagnoses? We now have politics in the medical profession, and they are dictating care. Do you feel comforted by this knowledge?

Lastly, Living Wills and Advanced Directives have never been an issue in all the years we have used them in medicine. You tell me what underground movement is at play here. End-of-Life Choices/Hemlock Society has been trying to legalize murder by a physician for years. That is no secret. Futile care? It doesn't exist in medical textbooks. Ethics in medicine has evolved into a killing culture by lobbyists and some medical professionals. Are these the people you want caring for you in a critical situation? My ethical standards have never changed. I fight for a life. I do everything in my power to save and heal. If you have documentation stating otherwise, I abide by your wishes within the law. I do not kill because some court, who has no knowledge of medicine and the ethics involved, or ignorant politicians pushed or paid by lobbyists, make a bill saying so.

I send this lengthy saga to inform you that you will not force your culture of death on me. You may use scare tactics to instill fear in the elderly and the ignorant. I will advocate against you until my last breath is drawn.

Please contact the hemlock society and voice your anger

[GWB and GOP Man]

I agree with you, eartotheground. King needs to GO! In my opinion, these people with this much weird fascination with death and dying should lead by example. By not practicing what they preach they are displaying true hypocrisy.

King's face offends me. Surely King's quality of life has suffered as a result of having a such an ugly mug.

I wouldn't want to live like King.

(sound famaliar?) ;-)

[GWB and GOP Man]

sorry...sound "familiar" not famaliar.

[eartotheground]

because a dead patient costs less than a long-term care patient.

[Search4Truth]

"Let her go."

Nice euphemism for the murder of the most defenseless. I suppose you call killing an unborn child, a choice.

No doubt you are a card carrying member of the culture of death. Unless you are here as just an antagonist, you'd probably feel more at home with the other killers of the defenseless at http://democraticunderground.com/

Don't let the cyber door hit you in the cyber ass on the way out.

[Wheee The People]

worth repeating...

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/7433131.htm

Posted on Sun, Dec. 07, 2003

FLORIDA VOTERS
Public backs right to die, poll says
The intervention by Gov. Jeb Bush and the Legislature into the Terri Schiavo case is met with overwhelming voter disapproval.
BY LESLEY CLARK AND PETER WALLSTEN
lclark@herald.com

Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida Republicans reignited a national debate on the right to die when they ordered a feeding tube reinserted into a brain-damaged woman, but the majority of the state's voters believe the politicians got it wrong, according to a new poll.

By nearly three to one, registered voters across religious, party and gender lines told pollsters they disagree with the intervention. While Bush and GOP legislators acted at the request of Terri Schiavo's parents to keep their daughter alive by overruling the wishes of her husband and a court, an overwhelming number of the poll's respondents believe that a spouse should determine whether an incapacitated person without a living will should be taken off life support.

''The governor is clearly in the wrong in terms of public opinion,'' said Democratic pollster Rob Schroth, who conducted the poll for The Herald and the St. Petersburg Times with a Republican pollster, Kellyanne Conway.

The responses were strong.

`THIS WAS A SHAME'

''Why would they go against what the courts and the judges have already decided?'' asked respondent Rosalind Jackson, a Winter Haven Republican. ``That poor girl has just been lingering for so long, and I felt finally she could get some peace. This was a shame.''

''How can I say this politely? It was a travesty, a farce,'' said respondent George Butzin, 46, of Clermont. ``I can't believe someone who espouses getting government out of our lives wants to put government in where it doesn't belong.''

The telephone survey of 800 registered voters, conducted Dec. 1-3, gauged public opinion on a variety of hot-button issues that could drive voter behavior next year in the nation's most populous swing state.

The poll also found that voters strongly favor lifting travel restrictions to Cuba and just as strongly oppose allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally.

While President Bush's approval ratings have slipped in recent months, due in part to troop casualties in Iraq, the survey found the war and the Schiavo case have not dramatically affected public opinion of his brother, Gov. Jeb Bush.

The governor, who overwhelmingly won reelection last year and is mentioned as a potential presidential contender in 2008, won favorable approval from 52 percent of respondents, a slight decline from the 56 percent that he posted in May. But he remains a polarizing figure, with 41 percent disapproving of his job performance. Blacks and working women accounted for his highest negatives.

While it appears the governor continues to get credit from voters for sticking with his principles, even if they disagree, his decline could reveal that his image is now tied to that of his brother, a wartime president.

''Jeb has always run 10 points ahead of his brother, now they're dead equal,'' Schroth said.

Gov. Bush's high-profile push to spend $350 million in taxpayer dollars to lure the Scripps Research Institute to Florida met with narrow approval, although voters overwhelmingly rejected spending public money on a new stadium for the Florida Marlins.

But it's the Schiavo case that has most gripped the nation, sparking an emotional debate over life and death.

Gov. Bush acted to keep Schiavo alive after thousands of e-mails and phone calls engineered by antiabortion activists, who view the case as a legal foothold in their quest to undo the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling.

Florida Democrats have accused Bush and the Republican-led Legislature of using Schiavo to energize religious conservatives heading into the 2004 election. The Democratic front-runner to challenge President Bush next year, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, assailed their move as ''BS,'' while one of his rivals, U.S. Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri, told reporters in Florida on Saturday that the decision should have been left up to the courts. The poll shows Democrats could have an audience for their attacks.

Even registered Republicans opposed their governor by 54-34 percent. Democrats rejected the move by 73-16 percent. Even more than 7 in 10 white men, the strongest supporters of the governor and the president, said they disagreed.

Among ethnic groups, only Hispanics backed the move, by 47-38 percent, perhaps because of strong religious faith, pollster Conway said. But across religious lines, Protestants, Catholics and Jews rejected the decision by at least 2-1.

GAY MARRIAGE

As strongly as they feel about Schiavo, registered voters vehemently oppose allowing gays and lesbians to marry.

The issue has exploded in recent weeks along the presidential campaign trail, since a court ruling in Massachusetts that gays should have the right to marry. Some leading Republicans are pushing for a federal constitutional amendment to outlaw same-sex nuptials, hoping to force Democrats to confront an issue dear to the liberal wing of the party but unpopular among many voters.

The major Democratic presidential candidates have tiptoed around the issue, saying they back civil unions -- the kind approved in Vermont by Dean -- but not officially sanctioned marriage.

The poll found near-uniform opposition to gay marriages in Florida, with only independent and Jewish voters backing the idea.

[Search4Truth]

Polls - the abode of charlatans and snake oil salesmen.

You and your dubious polls are a good example of why a democracy doesn't work.

You remind me of a drunkard, who would use a lamppost for support, rather than illumination.

[floriduh voter]

AT LAST, FLORIDUH VOTER'S BIRTHDAY PARTY PICTURES! 12 in all

Now you can see for yourself the layout of Hospice Woodside and the police presence which has dwindled since October, 2003.

[floriduh voter]

I love this one. Terri's Dad Bob taking his own pictures.

[floriduh voter]

Dedicated vigilers became thankful party goers.

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