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I'll Stand with George W. Bush
TooGoodReports.com ^ | 12/11/2003 | Bernard Chapin

Posted on 12/11/2003 7:59:11 AM PST by happykidjill

Like most Toogood Reports readers, I observed this year's battles within the conservative ranks with profound discomfort. In my mind, there are far too many real enemies out there to waste time and print fighting one another.

It seems that the world of conservatism has been split up between the "conservatives" and the "paleo-conservatives" or between the "conservatives" and the "neo-conservatives." Both sides present themselves as the bona fide article and the other side as the one in need of a prefix.

Personally, I just want to spit up this strife the same way the bleachers of Wrigley Field do the opposition´s home run balls. This qualifies as a "which side are you on boys" issue. It is my goal to conserve America's wonderful, non-living Constitution, and to forever preserve the personal and economic freedoms that embody our way of life. If you agree with me about these basic propositions, then you're on my side and the rest of your views are of secondary concern. Simply revering the spirit of the Founding Fathers puts you in the top 50 percent of the population on the Chap-o-meter.

Not only is an inter-journalist, inter-intellectual, conservative civil war fruitless, it is also detrimental to the nation as a whole. The country needs all of our efforts just to have a chance of mitigating the damage the culture war has wrought.

Our daily resistance may be the biggest obstacle to the federal pacman swallowing up fifty percent of the economy. We cannot afford to bicker amongst ourselves. The odds are too great. Obsessing over who said what about Taki, Buchanan, Frum, Lowry or any of the other public figures who make up the American right is counter-productive.

The neocon/paleocon debate is as bewildering as it is petty and misguided. Sadly, some conservatives now feel more comfortable with leftists than they do their own kind [I know of one who astonished me by saying that he regards the American Enterprise Institute as "The Death Star"]. Certainly, internal disagreements are to be expected, but they are trivial in comparison to accepting the positions advocated by the other side of the political spectrum. Socialism, cultural Marxism, white guilt, and radical feminism are eternal obstacles to advancing society. Other conflicts pale in importance when compared to them.

I propose that we abandon slurs like paleo-con and neo-con. Instead we should all evolve into "Logicons." The Logicon refuses to slash at the brethren who march alongside him because maintaining some level of public harmony is the only logical way in which we will succeed. Logicons realize that our fighting strength should not be diluted by internecine combat.

Much of the controversy currently centers around President Bush and whether or not one approves of his job performance. I've written here and elsewhere how much I personally admire him, but I also acknowledge that certain criticisms have been valid. Those who label him a big spender are correct in their assessments. He has not used his veto to curb the size of government and has developed a habit of hugging Ted Kennedy's voluminous appropriations.

While this is unfortunate, to pretend that Bush is not the best bet for advancing the country's interests is shortsighted. There are many conservatives out there who could do a better job of slashing outlays, but it is highly unlikely that any of them could get elected by our emotive and squishy electorate. On our side, George W. Bush "feels their pain" better than anyone. He brings in moderate voters the way my old Erie Dearie lures used to bag walleyes .

The problem is one of perspective. We can spend time complaining about steel tariffs or the administration´s pathetic capitulation on affirmative action last summer. Yes, I would have been greatly pleased if he disseminated a Michigan Law brief of his own after the decision entitled “O´Connor a Known Fruitcake,” but the fact is that he didn't and there´s nothing we can do about it. However, we must keep our outlook global by remembering what the alternatives are.

What would Al Gore do with affirmative action? How about Howard Dean, the neurotic would-be-king, with Al Qaeda? Makes you shudder doesn´t it? After the election, Al Sharpton would take his standup around the world as our Secretary of State and we´d hear Patricia Ireland lambasting “patriarchal textbooks” in her role as Secretary of Education.

In actuality, my examples really aren´t all that farfetched. The radical left has been carrying the Democrat Party since 2001 and, now, if the Democrats win, bills will need to be paid.

Rather than fantasize about an ideal future, conservatives need to think about how things can, and will, get devastatingly worse, should Bush lose. Be it Dean or Kerry or whatever burrito they decide to roll out of the Taqueria next summer, the fate of the country will be in jeopardy. By this time in 2006, there will be a foreign policy coward in every pot and a benefit check in the hands of every college drop out. Think France, think Germany, and then be grateful we have a president who doesn't spit after saying "tax cuts."

Besides, the Bush Presidency has produced many hidden benefits. His appointees may well be our salvation even though he backs obese budgets. In the latest issue of The New Criterion, we see that his appointments to the National Endowment of the Arts have had a wonderful effect. Under Dana Gioia, the agency is sponsoring Macbeth for military bases and has resurrected traditional Shakespeare at the national level [Shakespearean plays are now staged as in the days of old which means brothels and bath house scenes are no longer mandatory].

I don´t care if you insult him or trade in Karl Rove conspiracy theories, but, in November of 2004, this particular rightist is going to stand by George W. Bush just as the bumper sticker on my car promises. Our hopes for a better tomorrow rest in the White House on his bed. We must support him because heady days await and also because his reelection keeps the Democrat Party headless. Let´s proudly stand by our man as he loudly subsumes the popular positions of the left while promoting many of ours in the shadows though his judges, appointees, and minions.

To comment on this article or express your opinion directly to the author, you are invited to e-mail Bernard at bchapafl@hotmail.com .


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; neoconservatives; paleoconservatives; president; republican
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Ridge is now suggesting legalizing 12 million criminal illegal aliens, many of which are hardend criminials, criminals that continue to pour into, and flood our country. Here's just one.

Yes, hardened illegal criminals will joint the ranks of legal criminals. But 12 million illegals are not going to be hunted down and deported — no way, no how. Either they be assimilated into the mainstream or they will assimilate themselves into the underground economy, the criminal underground and plague our neighborhoods, towns, and cities...costing us much more money, problems, hatred, etc in the long run.

201 posted on 12/11/2003 10:37:00 AM PST by Consort
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To: Coop
My impression of the average American voter is that they wanted something done. Don't bother them with the details - just do it! Consequences be damned.


Sadly correct I'd say.

Which is exactly why it is so discouraging.

Many of us worked very hard to get the gop to where it is today. We all felt that if we could just get "our guys" into the leadership rolls, they would right the ship and return to the citizens the rights and freedoms that had been eroded over the last 40 years.

We were counting on gwb and the gop to do what was right.

I think it is safe to say that many people actually have faith in our president, much like they would have religous faith. Many feel that the president and the gop has let them down.

I know I do....................

(alright, enough of this, back to the smartass remarks)
202 posted on 12/11/2003 10:37:17 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: WhiteGuy
He is supposed to be the leader and take his direction from us.

Bill Clinton was your leader. Go home to Dean.

203 posted on 12/11/2003 10:38:56 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
Bill Clinton was your leader. Go home to Dean.


What an ignorant remark.


Thanks for the laugh!
204 posted on 12/11/2003 10:41:32 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: concerned about politics
Anti-Bush, aye? Libertarian still bitter about being ignored by the massess? No one votes libertarian. Get over it.

Anyone that aligns themselves with the ACLU has few friends on FR.

205 posted on 12/11/2003 10:45:20 AM PST by m1-lightning ("Just a fly in the ointment. A monkey in the wrench. A pain in the ass.")
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To: Consort
But 12 million illegals are not going to be hunted down and deported — no way, no how. Either they be assimilated into the mainstream or they will assimilate themselves into the underground economy

Why not deport them?

If you had 7 criminals that broke into the back door of your home, would you not want them removed? I would.

The point is where is the deterrent? If these people in DC get their way, and continue to wink and nod at this epic invasion of criminals, and actually aid and abet them, which they are doing now, what is to stop literally *millions* more from coming, while laughing in our faces.

Were we not a nation of laws? What WTF is happening?

If they continue to reward these criminals, it will be nothing but a green light "free for all"....

Bet on it.

206 posted on 12/11/2003 10:45:42 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: ohioWfan; happykidjill; Alamo-Girl; onyx; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; dixiechick2000; ...
I'll Stand with George W. Bush

Good article !! ...


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


207 posted on 12/11/2003 10:53:00 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Hillary is a TRAITOR !!: http://Richard.Meek.home.comcast.net/HitlerTraitor6.JPG)
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To: ohioWfan; Lazamataz
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with anyone's 'personality.'

But everything to do with someone's MORALITY.

208 posted on 12/11/2003 10:56:26 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ("Duty is ours, Results are God's" --John Quincy Adams)
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To: happykidjill
If you're happy and you know it clap your hands...

The opposite arguement started from Ambrose and even Jim Robinson jumps in on it. Open Discussion

209 posted on 12/11/2003 10:56:50 AM PST by m1-lightning ("Just a fly in the ointment. A monkey in the wrench. A pain in the ass.")
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To: MeeknMing
Bump!
210 posted on 12/11/2003 10:57:17 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: windcliff
Printout ping. Thanks.
211 posted on 12/11/2003 10:57:40 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Protagoras
Ah, the last hiding place. Typos as a subject to comment on. It must be tiring to be grasping at those straws all day long.

Instead of spending my time on proper spelling and grammar, perhaps I should be avoiding answering questions and throwing insults (a la "playground") instead.

I thought you were done here?? Do you ever mean anything you post?

212 posted on 12/11/2003 10:58:56 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: MeeknMing
You know, when I posted #190, the thought of someone posting a cartoon or waving political banners, actually crossed my mind.

Strange days indeed......

213 posted on 12/11/2003 11:00:09 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: WhiteGuy
We were counting on gwb and the gop to do what was right.

And in many cases they have. But some around here only focus on those areas they're upset about (which is pretty much human nature).

214 posted on 12/11/2003 11:00:10 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
As a Christian, I have a real problem with the time he equated Allah with Jehovah...

As a Christian, you need to do more research.

To many, the Bible taken literally can be very confusing. To ease the burden, changes were made, and certains assumptions were allowed.

Certain terms were used interchangeably, like GOD, Jehovah, Lord, and the assumption is they are all one and the same. They aren't.

GOD is GOD. Jehovah is Regent of the Moon.

Look up Allah, and look up Jehovah. Allah (Moon God), Jehovah (regent of the Moon). Pretty much the same thing.

President Bush was actually correct in his comparison.

215 posted on 12/11/2003 11:02:58 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ("Duty is ours, Results are God's" --John Quincy Adams)
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To: ohioWfan
"I'm not saying I like the spending, nor the compromises which I don't think are necessary..."

Good...sometimes I think certain BushBackers adopt anything Dubyuh does as their prefered policy. IMHO, constructive criticism actually assists Dubyuh more than those who blindly "ditto" everything he does.

"...voting for an obscure third party person and therefore potentially enabling a REAL enemy of freedom and responsibility to be elected. It would be stupid to do so.....but apparently there are some freepers hell-bent on being stupid."

I have very little doubt that I'll end up voting fer Dubyuh next November, but many folks I know have seemingly given up hope that Dubyuh will ever follow through on the fiscal conservatism he has often spoken of. If Dubyuh were to take a tighter line on spending over the upcoming year, I believe a lotta folks on the Right would rally around him and the GOP and lead us to a big landslide win in November '04.

FReegards...MUD

216 posted on 12/11/2003 11:05:27 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Why not deport them?

Come on, Joe, we've been through this many times on other threads. Storm troopers and hunting dogs are not going to go house to house, town by town, city by city searching for illegals and then loading them on trucks and cattle cars and shipping them to their countries of origin — ain't going to happen. Many illegal families have kids who were born here and are legal citizens.
Just trying to deport them would invoke riots, looting, fires, shootings across the country. Campus riots, chantings of Kumbaya and We Shall Overcome, a whole new '60s movement, Kent States.....would ensue with the whole world watching. That's the scenario you are advocating. Yes? No?

217 posted on 12/11/2003 11:08:15 AM PST by Consort
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To: happykidjill
It is my goal to conserve America's wonderful, non-living Constitution, and to forever preserve the personal and economic freedoms that embody our way of life.

And if only GWB shared those aims..

Our daily resistance may be the biggest obstacle to the federal pacman swallowing up fifty percent of the economy.

What "resistance"? Everyone who continues to vote for the R's because they are the "lesser of two evils" presents no "obstacle" whatsoever.

Sadly, some conservatives now feel more comfortable with leftists than they do their own kind...

And most of them are elected officials.

In the latest issue of The New Criterion, we see that his appointments to the National Endowment of the Arts have had a wonderful effect.

Arguing for your man by citing as an example an un-Constitutional agency within the government. Simply brilliant.

Let´s proudly stand by our man as he loudly subsumes the popular positions of the left while promoting many of ours in the shadows though his judges, appointees, and minions.

Go right ahead and vote as you see fit. It's a free country (though substantially less free than when Bush took office), for a little while longer anyway.

Those of us who actually respect the Constitution won't be pulling the lever for Socialist Party B over Socialist Party A.

218 posted on 12/11/2003 11:09:39 AM PST by John R. (Bob) Locke
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To: Coop
And in many cases they have. But some around here only focus on those areas they're upset about (which is pretty much human nature).

Some consider "compromise" as "caving" to the left.........

BushI got fired for that.
219 posted on 12/11/2003 11:09:42 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Consort
Your right. #190 means nothing. Lets all just roll over and get some sleep.

Go Bush!

220 posted on 12/11/2003 11:09:58 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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