Iraq TV Shot Tape of POWs Lynch, Piestewa

Associated Press ^ | 12/30/03

[AmericanInTokyo]

What the HELL!!?

This article does not even make ONE SINGLE REFERENCE to the Iraqi TV footage taken, and aired over Lebanon TV, of close ups of mortal head shots of at least 7 executed Americans in the same area of Iraq.CNN and other US TV networks would not air these in detail...although those with satellite hookups to the Middle East could see the unedited version(s).

These were almost all gruesome head shots, the bodies sprawled of the young soldiers, black and white and latino and I believe one female, out in their uniforms, on the floor of a house somewhere. One of the Iraqi militia kicks one of the bodies and smiles as he rifles through the pockets, taking out personal effects.

Did the MURDERERS of these people ever receive justice? Why doesn't the media report on THIS video clip, instead of focusing on their 'exclusive' clips they are only now receiving.

[Lee'sGhost]

God bless you and your servicemember children. Tell them I said "thanks."

[Tallguy]

"I haven't watched it," Piestewa's mother, Percy Piestewa, said when contacted by The Associated Press. "I don't want to talk to any reporters right now."

These reporters are absolutely ghoulish to be approching Pvt. Piestewa's mother with this stuff.

[AmericanInTokyo]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/874092/posts

From March 24, 2003 in FR:

"Should USA Target Iraq TV Crews/Reporters For Destruction Due to Graphic POWs Video? AmericanInTokyo ^ | 24 March 2003 | AmericanInTokyo Posted on 03/24/2003 1:05:59 PM EST by AmericanInTokyo "As a recipient of various Arab real-time satellite TV channels, such as al-Jazeera, Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation, Egypt Satellite, etc., I have been watching these programs perhaps more than CNN and the others recently, only if for the sole reason I want to find items that are provocative and are not making it into the Western media. If I was looking for 'provocative', I certainly found it by viewing, yesterday morning US time, a live satellite broadcast from LBC which was relaying the IRAQ TV broadcast of frightened US POWs from Texas, and humiliated/disrepected bodies of American heroes that had been shot in the head. My two immediate thoughts after seeing the horrifying, close-up color video from IRAQ TV via LBC, were: 1) GENEVA CONVENTION VIOLATIONS and 2) PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE (TERRORISM) BY THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES IRAQ TV is now attempting to cause psychological terror in the West by showing such horrendous, close-up color photos and videos, and humiliating the bodies and memories of the deceased in some building in al Nasiriya. Add to these the other thought I had just this day. In the cases of these videos, and other videos I have been seeing, the reporters for Iraqi TV are in MILITARY UNIFORM. Further, as we all know, Iraqi TV is dictatorship state-run T.V., i.e. it is firmly run by the Saddam Ba'athist Party and is part and parcel of the enemy's information infrastructure. My conclusion to this is, NO MORE PROTECTION. Who out there believes the USA/Allies should embark on a program of locating and eliminating, as our national policy, the reporters and camera crews of the Enemy, IRAQ TV? It is not a difficult stretch to say that Iraq TV will further videotape and show these kinds of scenes in the future, particularly if more American/British POWs are likewise captured and shot. Live POWs are interrogated roughly by the 'TV questioner' who is off camera. These reporters are enemy combatants. Further, since Iraq TV must know the location of Western human shields in Baghdad, they are liable to execute them at an opportune time, and then parade the bodies, broadcasting worldwide, to further effect public opinion in the 'shields' home countries. This must be stopped."

[Chad Fairbanks]

"I haven't watched it," Piestewa's mother, Percy Piestewa, said when contacted by The Associated Press. "I don't want to talk to any reporters right now."

F-ing ghouls... I hate The Press more and more as time goes on...

[Pagey]

NBC is beyond contempt for showing this video on TV. I truly believe, whoever made this decision---Producer/Director whomever, did so with great liberal glee, just to show an American Soldier being abused. Period.

[#3Fan]

Your posts on this thread are excellent. It's too bad that the reason they are so good is because some here are so unappreciative of the service and sacrifices of some of our soldiers.

[#3Fan]

To prove, once and for all, that Lynch was a hero greater than Patton. To support all the politically Korresht freepers who think she is a one-man army.

Who's been saying that?

To support all the losers who have posted on FR that she is some kind of hero, when she herself said she huddled in the bottom of her truck compartment without firing one single shot at the enemy.

The only loser I see is a loser that disrespects our soldiers because they make him feel inadequate. We know that's why you neanderthals post what you do.

[#3Fan]

Wow, look how well the Iraqis treated our injured and dying POWs. Jerking their wouded heads around by the hair to get them into position to film for their agitprop videos. Not to mention what they must have done to them for their conditions to be such as it was.

This is some of that "excellent care" we heard so much about I guess.

Where are the "usual suspects" now? No comments form them in this thread. I guess they conveniently "won't find" this story, even though it's a Drudge headliner.

Post a story about Lynch going to Disney World or something and they'll flip out. lol

[#3Fan]

I almost want to ping the bunch who jumped into bed with the Iraqis who said they treated our POWs well, gave Lynch and Piestewa excellent care, examined Lynch carefully and found no sign of rape, etc... But then I'd have to go back through the shamefull Lynch bashing threads, since I don't remember most of their IDs. Besides, I can do without yet another Kick Jessica thread in 2003. You know they would turn this into just that. I can see it now: "How dare Jessica hog our tv screens like this! The nerve of her making the poor Iraqis film her like that! And on and on....

Exactly. They say they're pro-military and what-not, but they are only for those they deem acceptable, no others need apply, no matter what they went through.

[#3Fan]

yes he did...or at least he Said and Jessica did not even remember him...

Maybe she doesn't want to be around Arabs. There were many WW2 vets that couldn't be around Japanese after the war.

[#3Fan]

I was not aware that he had been told that she wasn't ready. I stand corrected.

Maybe you should get yourself better informed before you go accusing good people of bad things. Sheesh.

[Wolfstar]

It is my understanding that Johnson and Piestewa were best friends. Denial is one of the hallmarks of the progession of grief. Perhaps Ms. Johnson is in denial over what the video shows. Perhaps her mind is only letting her focus on signs of medical treatment, such as bandages, because the alternative is too painful. Either that, or perhaps Ms. Johnson is saying what MSNBC wants her to say.

[cars for sale]

my neighbor was a POW during that war and you could not give him a Toyota

[VOA]

Denial is one of the hallmarks of the progession of grief. Perhaps Ms. Johnson is
in denial over what the video shows. Perhaps her mind is only letting her focus on
signs of medical treatment, such as bandages, because the alternative is too painful.

I suspect you've enunciated what's going on.

At the same time, she might be taking the long view...some of the Iraqis
appear to make some sort of helpful effort, no matter how pathetic it looks to us,
and the hanging offense of the @$$hole pulling Lori's hair. While I'm an over-protected
never-served civilian...it could be that Johnson is considering the wide bell-curve
of what happens to wounded POWs in wartime...everything from excruciating torture
that stretches out over months and years (as in the Hanoi Hilton) to the pampered
treatment that Germans got in the POW camps in the USA during WWII (heck, some of those
guys married local American girls; others come back to visit their POW camps in the USA
because they spent some of the best years of their lives there!).

Johnson may be thinking that in the long run, with the full spectrum of possible outcomes,
and the pathetic level of health care in Iraq for everyone except Saddam and his inner circle...
she's relieved at getting any evidence (no matter how incomplete!) that her friend
wasn't suffering through something like a Bataan Death March.

As a Sunday school teacher told me once: the greatest power of the human mind is
the power to rationalize.

[JustPiper]

I heard this tape is gruesome and one journalist asked an expert:
Do 'we' really need to see it?

[jaykay]

"WOW. Try cutting back on the caffeine.

I was not aware that he had been told that she wasn't ready. I stand corrected."

LOL, sorry if I come on too strong, but don't blame it on caffeine, it just comes naturally.

[jaykay]

"Post a story about Lynch going to Disney World or something and they'll flip out. lol"

She was at the Gator Bowl parade on Wednesday. I think her home team WVU is in the Gator Bowl later today. I haven't searched here yet, but I would not be surprised to find a Jessica Bashing thread about it momentarily.

[#3Fan]

my neighbor was a POW during that war and you could not give him a Toyota

Yeah, it's very understandable to me.

[#3Fan]

She was at the Gator Bowl parade on Wednesday. I think her home team WVU is in the Gator Bowl later today. I haven't searched here yet, but I would not be surprised to find a Jessica Bashing thread about it momentarily.

Yeah, she's not allowed to do anything but sulk the rest of her life. If she does anything besides sulk, then it makes those that feel inadequate feel worse. lol