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1 posted on 01/01/2004 3:53:55 PM PST by NYer
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Is Flynn new to this planet?
2 posted on 01/01/2004 4:00:09 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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3 posted on 01/01/2004 4:01:01 PM PST by NYer
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And then we have the Catholics in Name Only. (CINO)

Posting a politician and Catholic list of articles.
4 posted on 01/01/2004 4:09:02 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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.....claiming Dean mixed up John Kerry with ex-Sen. Bob Kerrey of Nebraska.....

That's understandable.

Similarly, some people are confusing Howard Dean with James Dean.......both strange, excentric rebels with a cult-like followings.

5 posted on 01/01/2004 4:10:25 PM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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The only Catholic Link on the DNC site is to a virulently anti-Catholic cult!!!!

How anyone with moral values of any religious background can vote for the rats is mysterious.

7 posted on 01/01/2004 4:11:58 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (One man with courage makes a majority)
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** ``There is a forum for the black voters, there's another forum for the feminists and women voters, there's another candidate forum for organized labor,'' Flynn told the Herald. ``That doesn't happen with the most significant voting bloc in the country, the Catholic vote.''**

It will be interesting to track, but I think Flynn is wrong here. I believe we will see more Catholics (remember -- the Church (with the younger people) is getting more conservative.) voting Republican more and more!

8 posted on 01/01/2004 4:14:12 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Flynn is one of those near extinct, conservative Democrats.

A decent man in my opinion.

9 posted on 01/01/2004 4:17:12 PM PST by mware
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Flynn belongs to a vanishing species: Irish Catholic politicians from Massachusetts who are loyal to their faith. God bless him. He is publishing this article only to annoy, because he knows that the Democrats can't even understand what he's talking about.

"What?" they'll say. "Isn't Teddy Kennedy a Catholic? Are we ignoring him?"
11 posted on 01/01/2004 4:22:25 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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They don't ignore Catholic voters, they just take the for granted and often for good reason.
12 posted on 01/01/2004 4:23:05 PM PST by CWOJackson
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Flynn, in an opinion column published in the Manchester Union-Leader, said Democrats are writing off more than 40 percent of the Granite State's voters by ignoring Catholics.

Stupid comment. Actually Catholics tend to be more pro gay marriage and pro abortion that Protestants do (although in the latter instance, the numbers are about even), at least if you count all nominal Catholics as Catholics, which clearly the 40% Catholic figure in New Hampshire that Flynn cited includes.

Is Flynn still drinking?

13 posted on 01/01/2004 4:24:24 PM PST by Torie
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If a life long Rat, like Raybo, smells the decaying politics of the Rat party listen, Ray may be a fool in some ways, but he is a good indicator of which way the political winds are blowing, he knows his constituency.
15 posted on 01/01/2004 4:26:16 PM PST by Little Bill (The pain of being a Red Sox Fan.)
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Dear Mr. Flynn, spend less time on you abhorrent Pro-Life nonsense and maybe rethink the benefits of having a few more pedophile priests.

Then the Dems will pay you guys a little more attention.
20 posted on 01/01/2004 4:35:37 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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The democrats cannot address Catholic issues, because doing so would alienate too many of the democratic party's core constituency groups (esp the feminists)
21 posted on 01/01/2004 4:36:03 PM PST by Paleoguy
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Seems Flynn is threatening he will not deliver the Catholic vote.
28 posted on 01/01/2004 5:31:28 PM PST by luvbach1
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The 'Rats are too controlled by militant secularists to be serious about Catholics before the November elections.
29 posted on 01/01/2004 5:52:34 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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Christian Dean wouldn't! sarcasm!
30 posted on 01/01/2004 5:58:30 PM PST by winker
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Is this the best we can expect from the "Boston Herald"? I doubt we are the most significant voting bloc in the country, but we ARE as varied as any group out there (which makes me wonder if we ARE a group when it comes to politics.) My sister is a Catholic. I am a Catholic. When we come to worship, we are as one. The rest of the time....... nope. We all have to live according to our own conscience, all the while remembering that this life is not the end of the line.
31 posted on 01/01/2004 8:10:14 PM PST by Just Lori (We're all in this together.)
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And U.S. Rep. Richard Gephardt took on the former Vermont governor's claim to be the only candidate from a ``farm state'' - noting that his native Missouri has far more farms than Vermont.

If Dean said this then he is truly a whacko. Five or six counties in Missouri have more farms than Vermont has square mileage.

Vermont is a tiny state.

32 posted on 01/01/2004 8:37:12 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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Flynn: Democrats Exclude Catholics
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Wednesday, July 28, 2004
President of Your Catholic Voice, former mayor of Boston, former president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors, U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican during the Clinton Administration, and author of “The Accidental Pope” and “John Paul II” - Ray Flynn is a man on a mission.

In appearances around the country, in articles on Your Catholic Voice (YCV) Website and in interviews on Meet the Press, Nightline, Face the Nation, This Week, CNN, MSNBC and Fox News, this man who describes himself as a “loyal Catholic American first,” wants to re-enfranchise the sixty-two million Catholics in the United States – too many of which he says have become “politically homeless.”

Unabashedly pro-life, pro-family and pro-needy, Flynn has been president since May 2003 of YCV, a non-partisan independent Catholic lay organization dedicated to “motivating, educating and activating Catholic citizens for political and social participation.”

His mantra: “Catholics have become spectators in American politics, not active players.”

Flynn is out to change all that, but suggests that he doesn’t get much help from the Catholic politicians. “Catholic politicians feel they have to compromise their Catholic principles and values to get ahead, he told NewsMax in an exclusive interview.

"The popular line of the day for Catholic elected officials on issues like abortion and same-sex marriage is, ‘I’m personally opposed, but I don’t want to impose my own values and beliefs on other people.’"

"Amazingly, this has become the political response that satisfies both Catholic voters and opponents to Church teaching."

Although not taking specific aim at the nation’s most prominent Catholic politician these days – John Kerry – the description fits. Kerry is the first Roman Catholic from a major political party to seek the presidency in 44 years.

Although Flynn has not formally endorsed Kerry, he has expressed the belief that Kerry’s campaign needs a Catholic movement - a reaching out to Catholic voters.

Flynn maintains it could make a deciding difference in battlegrounds like Ohio, Wisconsin and New Mexico – states with large Catholic populations. Nearly 20 percent of Ohioans are Catholic, and the ratio is higher in cities like Cleveland and Cincinnati.

Flynn suggests that Kerry could serve himself better by being more overt with his own faith. Instead, the candidate rarely gets personal about his faith on the campaign trail, stressing instead his strong belief in separation of church and state.

And Flynn’s complaint extends not just to the candidate but to the party he represents. “At one time, the Democratic Party fought for social and economic justice and was the party of blue-collar, working-class Catholic families," he said. "Today, the Democratic Party is controlled by wealthy, left-wing activists whose extreme political agenda, for the most part, excludes loyal, faithful and patriotic American Catholics.”

As president of a nonpartisan, tax-exempt organization, Flynn has been careful in choosing his words.

However, when Kerry last year suggested Pope John Paul II “crossed the line” by instructing Catholic politicians to block legalization of gay marriage, Flynn, a great admirer of the Pope, was pushed over the edge. “For Kerry to attack and address the Holy Father, the revered moral leader of over one billion Catholics worldwide, in that way was highly disrespectful and cynical.

"If a candidate for President does not understand that the family is the foundation and source of stability for society, I think he is out of touch with mainstream Americans.”

But candidate Kerry may just be between a rock and a hard place when it comes to defining the role of his faith in his candidacy. Flynn says, “It’s different to 40 years ago. JFK, as a Catholic, had to convince non-Catholics that he would not take orders from the Pope. The challenge for Kerry is to convince Catholics that he is faithful to the values and traditions of the Catholic Church.”

Although Flynn laments that instead of attending civic and church meetings, Catholics are shopping in the malls or watching athletic events on TV, he does see hope on the horizon.

“Much to my surprise, young adults are getting involved more than I’ve ever seen before. I’ve seen it in San Francisco, Boston and cities throughout the United States.

"I also see it on college campuses — like Harvard and the University of San Francisco. It’s truly amazing — the sense of commitment these young Catholics women and men have.

”These are young people who have been positively influenced by the moral leadership of Pope John Paul II and are not afraid to get involved.

"A positive movement of young Catholics is building, not only in the United States, but also in many parts of the world. I personally saw the impact that Pope John Paul II has had on young people in my many trips with him over the years.”

In the run-up to the November elections, these are some of the important hearts and minds that Kerry must capture, says Flynn.

48 posted on 07/28/2004 9:46:32 AM PDT by Coleus (Brooke Shields killed her children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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bump to the top


50 posted on 07/28/2004 10:02:33 AM PDT by timestax
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