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Say It Ain't So, Dubya
boblonsberry.com ^ | 1/7/04 | Bob Lonsberrry

Posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:39 AM PST by shortstop

In politics, it’s good to be up for grabs. And it’s miserable to be a sure thing.

As President Bush will prove today. In an expected announcement of sweeping amnesty and Social Security benefits for illegal Mexican aliens, the president will kick conservatives in the teeth in order to woo Latino voters.

It’s clear proof that the adage “Dance with the one what brung ya” doesn’t apply in the GOP.

In the GOP, conservatives exist to donate money and vote a straight ticket, and then be ignored. At least in this Administration and by this Congress. Time after time, the principles of those who put George W. Bush in office have been compromised and rejected. And now, on an issue that could forever alter the nature of the United States, conservatives are being betrayed by their president.

And, you could argue, so is the country.

What are the details? We won’t learn until today. But it is expected that a new “adjusted work status” will be announced for most of the eight million Mexicans currently in this country illegally. Also, lifetime Social Security benefits will be guaranteed illegal Mexican aliens – even after they leave the United States – if they pay Social Security tax for as little as 18 months.

Lawbreakers will be rewarded, and the American taxpayer will become the primary funder of the Mexican retirement system.

And billions of dollars of wages earned by illegal aliens will continue to be sent back to Mexico – bleeding our prosperity and continuing as the second largest cash source for the Mexican economy.

Why is this happening?

Why is the Republican president selling out everything you would think his party stands for?

Because the Latino vote is in play.

Simply put, the large number of Latinos in America have not yet clearly identified with a political party. And the Republicans want them. The Democratic Party owns the black vote lock, stock and barrel and the Republican Party wants to do the same with the Latino vote.

Democrats hope to draw Latino voters by convincing them – as they have African-Americans – that they are an underprivileged minority which needs the Democratic Party to avenge it against the larger American culture.

Republicans hope to draw Latino voters by convincing them – as they have American moderates and conservatives – that they are part of the larger American culture.

Democrats want people identified as minorities; Republicans want people identified as the mainstream.

Apparently President Bush believes that the Republican Party can win the heart of Latinos by rewarding millions of illegal Mexican aliens and by creating a welfare entitlement for people who aren’t even Americans.

Specifically, by caving in to a demand by Mexican President Vicente Fox – the author of the policy President Bush will announce today.

Latinos are powerful because they are up for grabs. Conservatives are powerless because they are a sure thing.

Honestly, if conservatives get ticked off at George W. Bush, what are they going to do? Who are they going to vote for?

Howard Dean? Hillary Clinton?

No way.

After being walked on and ignored, conservatives will dutifully come out this fall to support not just President Bush but the Republican Congress. Why?

Because we want judges and cabinet secretaries and protections for guns and free enterprise and property rights – things we didn’t really get this go round but hope to get in the next.

Conservatives are patsies to the Republican Party, just like blacks are patsies to the Democratic Party. Both get stroked at election time, and both get some very pretty speeches, but when it comes time to make laws and keep promises, both groups are roundly ignored by their parties.

Critics of this policy – as comments from the White House spokesman already indicate – are going to be labeled xenophobes and bigots. There will be syrupy quotes about this being a nation of immigrants and how new people coming to America make it a better nation.

Well, it used to be that way. When our foreign forefathers came to America to be Americans.

But those days have passed. Overwhelmingly, Mexicans come to America to be Mexicans. The melting pot is broken. The language is not learned, the culture is not adopted, the customs and values are not acquired.

And in a couple of generations the Latin Quarter is going to refer to that part of America west of Louisiana and south of Oregon and Idaho. There is a broad-based Latinization of the United States underway, a cultural conquest that the Mexican army could not win but the American government is willing to surrender.

We are growing our own Quebec, and it speaks Spanish. Latino immigrants, and specifically Mexicans, are wonderful people. Yet their success in this country – and the continued integrity of this country – are dependant on obeying the law and acquiring the culture and values of the American Constitution and heritage.

And that is not done by rewarding those whose first act on American soil was an immigration crime.

Instead of granting amnesty and rewarding lawbreakers, we should make a guest-worker program that lets Mexican immigrants walk honorably through the front door instead of illegally through the back door. We have the jobs, they want the work, let us bring order to putting the two together.

And then secure the borders, with troops if need be, so that illegal immigration stops.

Reward those who do right, not those who do wrong. Quicker, more efficient legal immigration is right. Amnesty is wrong.

And this fool idea of opening the empty Social Security coffers to Mexican nationals in Mexico is insane.

But if insanity buys votes, in an election year it becomes law.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; aliens; bush; buyingvotes; camejo; cheney; dubya; edwards; election; gwb; illegalmexicans; invasion; kerry; lonsberry; mexico; nader; pandering; plunderamericans; theft; thenannystate; thewelfarestate; welfarestate
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To: biblewonk
Most of the Mexicans in CR Ia are better Americans than a lot of the legal's who make a living sitting on a porch smoking crack.

I hear you brother. Many immigrants are great people from hard working solid family backrounds. They have a lot of positive things to offer this country. I still find it amazing how people who come here, many barely speaking the language, manage to carve out a good life for themselves and their families. While other traditional Americans can't manage to keep or find a job or manage other basic civic responsibilities for that matter.

61 posted on 01/07/2004 6:45:46 AM PST by mgist
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To: stopem
GWB has lost my vote,sad to say.

I don't know what I am going to do,but this one,very important,issue has been handled poorly.

They want Hispanic votes but what about the votes of millions of us who want illegals treated as lawbreakers,which they are.
62 posted on 01/07/2004 6:47:24 AM PST by Mears
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To: sushiman
I will not vote for Bush or anybody else . Screw 'em .

It's not as if we didn't know this was going to happen? A major part of Bush's election strategy was courting the hispanic vote. I don't recall Bush ever taking any kind of serious stand on illegal immigration. He is hardly breaking any promises that he made to conservatives here. He never did as far as I remember. No one should be surprised by this.

Bush was not my first choice for a GOP President but we made our choice back then and we got to live with it now. We all knew what we were getting when we voted for him the first time. No one should act shocked at what he has wrought thus far.

63 posted on 01/07/2004 6:47:53 AM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Mears
They want Hispanic votes but what about the votes of millions of us who want illegals treated as lawbreakers,which they are.

Wow crossing the border to have a life making beds or cleaning toilets is right up there with murder to you isn't it.

64 posted on 01/07/2004 6:48:59 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane; KantianBurke; kinghorse
Yes, he signed an amnesty bill.

It was one of his worst mistakes.

I've never heard ANYBODY ever mention the word RINO and Ronald Reagan in the same sentnece and understand the first concept of what a Republican is.

George Bush is about to make the same mistake R.R. made in 1986 - MULTIPLIED 1,000 TIMES.

(I have heard G.B. in the same sentence as the word RINO.)

65 posted on 01/07/2004 6:49:06 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: kegler4
>>>Further proof that Bush, much like Clinton, will stop at absolutely nothing in his drive to get re-elected. And the Bush apologists on FR will line up like lemmings to vote for him.<<<

There are Bush apologists, but there are also apologists for illegal aliens. The #1 claim by apologists for illegals is that they "do the jobs no American wants to do".

What Bush saying to illegals is basically "OK, I'll look at your side of it,in fact, most every President for the last 25 years has been listening to ya'll "talk the talk" and trying to satisfy your whining.. So, OK, show me the job you're doing and prove no american wants it.

I think Bush is probably very good at Poker.
66 posted on 01/07/2004 6:49:59 AM PST by Roughneck (". . .For there is going to come a time when people won't listen to the truth. . .")
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To: LandofLincoln
I am sending my membership card to the RNC back to them.



I go my request for dues in Monday, it is now in the trash.
67 posted on 01/07/2004 6:50:07 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: TomServo
The average lifetime now is 75 years.

That's a lot of legislation.

Wonder what Mexerica will look like in 2078?

68 posted on 01/07/2004 6:50:55 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: biblewonk
We are a nation of laws, not men. Either there is a legal way to enter this country or there isn't. Apparently law is breaking down in this society.
69 posted on 01/07/2004 6:51:00 AM PST by rushmom
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To: Dane
You are simply insane and delusional. No one is talking about executing mexicans, We are talking about the intentional invasion of our country for its assets and blood sweat and tears of the American people. This will only encourage more illegals to come here.
70 posted on 01/07/2004 6:51:03 AM PST by chris1
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To: futureceo31
I am just curious which state you live in? I live near the border in Tucson and I dont think you realize the impact of illegals on crime, welfare, taxes, infrastructure, and the sense of community that they have. This is a radical change to the landscape of our society. Do you really think that this will improve our country - this is an issue that will cost Bush votes. Hispanics who believe in the rule of law and love this country will not vote for him because of this. It is only the liberal and radical border rights people that will commend him - and again they will not vote for him as well. Bush Jr. like Bush Sr. is caught up in his elitist and 'everybody must love me' attitude that will cost him votes and perhaps the election. I believe that other conservatives like me will stay away or even vote democrat because of this and other policies that Bush has enacted.
Moreover the general public will not be kindly to Bush on this - I hope that he will not be elected in 04 - even if that means we get the devil democrat. At least we will know our enemy.
71 posted on 01/07/2004 6:51:28 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: Burkeman1
I admire your reasoning.

I know you have strong feelings over this issue, which you have stated well, but you're not throwing everything away over emotions. That's what the GOP needs to participate in shaping their agendas.

72 posted on 01/07/2004 6:52:19 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Chi-Town Lady
Exactly. They are just fine living on the fringes of society and going on the programs that taxpayers fund. Shame on you apologists for this. Let day laborers start hanging out in front of YOUR house and see how you like it.
73 posted on 01/07/2004 6:52:52 AM PST by chris1
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To: expat_panama
***The "work that Americans won't do" nonsense ignores the existence of the free market.***

Amen to that. One can only imagine how wages would be affected if illegals weren't available to swallow up all these "tedious" jobs.


74 posted on 01/07/2004 6:53:24 AM PST by Prolifeconservative (If there is another terrorist attack, the womb is a very unsafe place to hide.)
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To: expat_panama
Mexicans perform jobs Americans are too proud to do, it seems.

We hear this a lot-- Rush was spouting this crock yesterday.

  Rush needs to provide evidence for this or stop saying it.

75 posted on 01/07/2004 6:53:50 AM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: pcx99
It used to be that one could only come in with a sponsor who assumed all responsibility for you. Now you immediately become a ward of the state, whether you're a legal or illegal alien. That is why they are coming in such large numbers.
76 posted on 01/07/2004 6:54:34 AM PST by rushmom
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To: Dane
Dane sez: "Wow crossing the border to have a life making beds or cleaning toilets is right up there with murder to you isn't it."

why should that shock you, given that you take a similar view toward smoking herb...


77 posted on 01/07/2004 6:55:51 AM PST by LN2Campy
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To: pcx99
"Of course the US will change with a larger influx of Mexican immigrants, but melting pot has always changed and remade itself when it absorbed large influxes of immigrants, in over 200 years that process has made us nothing but better.

Absorbed? This could lead to civil. And if not then we are no longer worth much anyway. This is Balkinization of the highest order. This is not some small change to the USofA, this is it's utter destruction. If the changes in the USofA had been presented to your parents or grand parents as one big package, they would have leveled D.C. That we are not says the liberals have done their propoganda job well, even on those that suppose themselves conservative.

78 posted on 01/07/2004 6:56:04 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: sasafras
I believe that other conservatives like me will stay away or even vote democrat because of this and other policies that Bush has enacted.

Oh you mean tax cuts, PBA ban, nominating conservative judges.

JMO, but you have outed yourself as DU'er.

79 posted on 01/07/2004 6:57:27 AM PST by Dane
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To: sushiman
I will not vote for Bush or anybody else . Screw 'em .

I love Bush with all my heart, but honest to God, I never see it fail: they promise you the MOON to get your vote. Once they are in office, they stick it to us. I keep saying that "I" won't vote again either, but then I think..........Gawd! What if the DemocRATS take over? Then it will REALLY be bad. Can't win for losing sushiman! :(

80 posted on 01/07/2004 6:58:00 AM PST by SheLion (Curiosity killed the cat BUT satisfaction brought her back!!!)
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