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NJ Governor McGreevey a devout Catholic, yet diplomatic {Barf Alert}
Press of Atlantic City ^ | 01.11.04 | Pete McAleer

Posted on 01/11/2004 1:45:27 PM PST by Coleus

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To: Coleus
I wonder why the reporter never contacted any of the 5 bishops in the state for their official comments regarding the issues above and whether someone can be a "devout" Catholic and still be in favor of homosexual unions, embryonic stem cells, human cloning, and needle exchanges.

Good question, and why I get my news at FR.

41 posted on 01/13/2004 7:43:47 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Coleus
Mortal? Are you sure?
42 posted on 01/13/2004 7:45:27 AM PST by Land of the Free 04
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To: Land of the Free 04
It all depends..

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/208805.htm
43 posted on 01/13/2004 11:17:52 AM PST by Coleus (Tagline? Yes, I have skin tags, should I pull them off?)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Don't let the door hit you in your self-righteous ass. The Church does not exist to pamper your ego or ratify your agenda. Apostacy becomes you. I'm sure you'll be welcomed into the ranks of the Orangemen with open arms.
45 posted on 01/13/2004 11:33:24 AM PST by Dionysius
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To: Salvation
There have been many changes in the Catholic Church

You mean they are now in favor of some standards?

Or have they started to remove the homosexuals that are poisoning the church?

Have they stopped supporting communist regimes around the world and stopped turning a blind eye to those who are oppressed?

46 posted on 01/13/2004 2:33:59 PM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Criminal Number 18F
I bailed in the 1980s, when the Catholic clergy in El Salvador were arming and supporting Communist rebels, and teaching that Jesus Christ was the first Communist

Another reason I left the church as well.

47 posted on 01/13/2004 2:35:45 PM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Dionysius
The Church does not exist to pamper your ego or ratify your agenda.

Actually, the Church needs to have an agenda that returns to the principles of Jesus Christ.

They are still pandering to the homosexuals in their midst and the dictatorships around the world, calling the United States a bad country when we adhere the closest to the Word.

You call me self-righteous?! Well, unlike the Church, at least I know right from wrong.

48 posted on 01/13/2004 2:41:33 PM PST by Erik Latranyi
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A note on terminology.

The term "devout Catholic" in the mass media invariable means someone who will claim a Catholic "identity" while simultaneously rejecting utterly one or more major parts of the Catholic faith, typically those concerning sexual morality.

Real Catholics call people like that "heretics," "apostates," or "cafeteria Catholics".

The mass media calls real Catholics "rigid," "triumphalist," "patriarchal," "traditionalist," "anti-Semitic," and "homophobic" ... but never "devout".

49 posted on 01/13/2004 2:41:39 PM PST by Campion
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calling the United States a bad country when we adhere the closest to the Word.

LOL, yeah, aborting 40 million of our own citizens, propagandizing for it abroad, and promoting abortion and contraception in the third world is really sticking close to that there "Word," Erik. Yessiree.

Don't delude yourself. The USA is under Divine judgement and condemnation, right here, right now, today.

50 posted on 01/13/2004 2:43:44 PM PST by Campion
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To: Erik Latranyi
There are three things you can never turn your back on -- your family, your country and your faith. They are too deeply a part of you. Someday you shall return and shall be welcomed. I pray for that day to come sooner than later.
51 posted on 01/13/2004 2:54:27 PM PST by Dionysius
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To: Coleus
Bologna.....McGreedy signed that bill even though 4 members of the Presidents Council on Bioethic requested he not sign the bill. The bill makes it a crime to clone a human being but defines a human clone as genetic material going from Egg THROUGH newborn. Therefor the clone must be aborted prior to birth. We are talking baby harvest farms here.

Some garden state we have. Just hope when God Zots NJ he spares me.

52 posted on 01/13/2004 2:59:46 PM PST by mware
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To: Dionysius
There are three things you can never turn your back on -- your family, your country and your faith

I did not turn my back on any of those. I am still a practicing Christian, just doing it within a group that more closely reflect my faith.

53 posted on 01/16/2004 9:03:55 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Campion
Don't delude yourself. The USA is under Divine judgement and condemnation, right here, right now, today.

...but we are at the back of the line, not the front!

54 posted on 01/16/2004 9:05:30 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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