NJ Governor McGreevey a devout Catholic, yet diplomatic {Barf Alert}

Press of Atlantic City ^ | 01.11.04 | Pete McAleer

[Coleus]

I wonder why the reporter never contacted any of the 5 bishops in the state for their official comments regarding the issues above and whether someone can be a "devout" Catholic and still be in favor of homosexual unions, embryonic stem cells, human cloning, and needle exchanges. Nor did the reporter ever mention that the governor is divorced and has a daughter living in Canada and remarried in the Episcopal Church. The reporter never stated that the stem-cell bill included human cloning.

The stem-cell law gives patients at fertility clinics the option to donate for research unused embryos that otherwise would be discarded>>

The Catechism of the Catholic Church forbids in-vitro and in-vivo fertilizations for this very purpose. The so-called "embryo" is a human being and deserves to be born.

The church condemns the procedure because it involves researchers destroying days-old embryos.>>>

The church condemns the procedure because it involves researchers destroying human beings, with a soul, created in God's image and likeness.

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[Coleus]

Catechism of the Catholic Church #2271...

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH

DOCTRINAL NOTE
on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life

Living the Gospel of Life:
A Challenge to American Catholics

A Statement by the Catholic Bishops of the United States

Faithful Citizenship:
Civic Responsibility for a New Millennium

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH

CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS
TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION
TO UNIONS
BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS

An Old Testament, Litany of Life
Canon Law and Abortion

Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2274...

Sign Petition:
The Gospel of Life--Evangelium Vitae
Herod's Heroes

[Kuksool]

McSleazy must be talking lessons from Howard Dean.

[Coleus]

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[oceanview]

just what we need, a devout catholic bisexual governor.

[Erik Latranyi]

I left the Catholic Church last year and became Presbyterian.

I was sick and tired of the Catholic Church's stance as anti-Iraq war even though hundreds of thousands of people will not die as a result of our intervention.

I was sick and tired of the Catholic Church ignoring the homosexuals in their midst (priests) who prey on young boys. It is not pedophilia, it is homosexual aggression gone rampant.

I was sick and tired of the Catholic Church giving an anullment to Edward Kennedy and turning a blind eye to his and other prominent Catholic politicians' indiscretions.

The Catholic Church needs to kick these Rats out of their church and refuse to give them communion. Tell them that they are not wanted. Tell Americans that if you support abortion, stem cell research, etc, you can not be a Catholic in good standing and receive communion.

When the Catholic Church grows some balls (instead of feeling them), I might return.

[JohnnyZ]

After the interview, McGreevey grabbed a copy of a book he's reading by Garry Wills, called "Why I Am A Catholic."

Yup, that's about right. Anti-Catholics like McGreevey and Wills need to be tosed out as they do grave spiritual harm to the Church by misrepresenting Catholicism to the public.

[JohnnyZ]

When the Catholic Church grows some balls (instead of feeling them), I might return.

Stay where you are until you figure out what religion is about. Your bitterness and hatred would only poison the Church were you to rejoin now.

[nmh]

Yeah, I especially like his same sex benefit package passed recently in NJ (major barf). Maybe he is taking his cue from the Catholic church in embracing it. Meanwhile live-in heterosexuals do not have access to health care. I'm not saying they should but only emphasize special rights given to homos and exalting perversion.

[ladylib]

He's a devout Catholic who was divorced from his first wife (who I read somewhere is so terrified of him (for what reason I do not know) she lives in British Columbia with their daughter), has remarried and had another child.

But he's a devout Catholic and that's all that counts, right?

[madprof98]

I think a "devout Catholic" is any person baptized into the Church as an infant who tells a reporter he feels devout. I believe Howard Dean would qualify.

[ladylib]

Zsa Zsa Gabor (anyone remember her?)used to tell people she was a devout Catholic.

That woman governor Grandholm(?), Michigan is pro abortion but she's also a devout Catholic. I don't see how.

I was raised a Catholic, had some issues with the Church, and decided I could no longer be a Catholic (it would be hypocritical of me, and I don't pick and choose the rules I want to follow as far as the Church is concerned), but then again, I'm not a politician.

[Salvation]

**It is that same philosophy that allows McGreevey to continue to reference his Catholic faith at a time when bishops are offering prayers that the governor will change his mind about his stance on stem cell research.**

I'm afraid that Gov. McGreevey needs to wake up to what the Catholic Bishops are saying!

[Salvation]

There have been many changes in the Catholic Church.

Maybe you need to re-investigate. And you are always welcome to return the the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church.

[Coleus]

That woman governor Grandholm>>

Stop Granholm

[Salvation]

Catholics and Politicians -- For your reference:

The Deadly Dozen

Canadian Prime Minister Taunts Church: "I Am A Catholic And For Abortion"
Catholic Church asks Tom Daschle to stop calling himself a Catholic
On Catholic Politicians and Faith
Vatican Urges Catholic Politicians to Vote Along Church Lines
Senator Santorum on Being Catholic and a Politician
William E. Simon, Sr. and Jr. Devout Catholics, Philanthropists and Politicians
Deadly Dozen senator taken to task over claims of Catholicism
THE BISHOP AND THE SENATOR [author links to FR thread regarding Daschle in her online column]
Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians
MI Gov Granholm Proclaims June "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month"
Colorado Governor To Media:'WE LOVE OUR CHURCH' [Gov. Bill Owens
U.S. Senator Brownback and Commentator Dick Morris Join Catholic Church
PRIEST REFUSES COMMUNION TO KNEELING PRO-LIFE POLITICIAN [Richard Black, Virginia]
Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights
Pope to MPs: Stop gay marriage
Vatican - Considerations regarding ... homosexual persons
CONFUSIONS ABOUT POLITICAL JUDGMENT AND THE MORAL LAW
Prelate says politicians who back abortion shouldn't go to Communion
Bishop draws fire for targeting Chrétien
Kennedy likens Vatican stance on gay unions to 'bigotry' (oh, go get a job, you little creep)
Ignorance or Malicious Intent? "No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to..."
George Weigel on Authentic Catholic Citizenship, and the Duty of Catholic Politicians to Behave as Catholics
Conservative Catholics urge Church to challenge "dissenters"
[Robert F., Jr.] Kennedy to speak at Festival of Faiths (Environmentalism as religion)
Faithful Catholic Politicians
Catholic Bishops Eye Possible Crackdown of Pro-Abortion Pols
PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS
It is Time to Excommunicate the Politicians
Church vows to fight gay marriage: Catholics pressure pols
Should politicians toe their church line?
Church May Penalize Politicans
Catholic politicians facing dogmatic threat
Bishop appeals to Catholic lawmakers [Wisconsin]
New St. Louis Catholic Archbishop Warns Pro-Abortion Catholic Politicians of Excommunication.
Bishop Objected to AIDS Walk
Wisconsin Catholic Lawmakers Seek Victim Status In Feud With Bishop
Bishop Burke discusses the letters he sent to Catholic politicians
Congressman Places Internal Pro-Abortion Docs in Congressional Record
Flynn: Dems ignore Catholics
Granholm gay rights order "a slap in the face"
Calif. Bishop To Gov. Davis: Pick Abortion Or Communion [formal excommunication?]
California Bishop to Gov: Oppose Abortion or No Communion (New Title)
Sacramento Bishop Challenges Governor on Abortion; Tells Davis to Stop Receiving Communion
Granholm's Bible-thumping Sure to Rile GOP
Bishop: No Communion for Abortion Backers
Legislators can't have Eucharist, bishop says: Don't serve supporters of abortion rights, euthanasia
Wisc. Bishop Tells Pro-Abort. Catholic Pols: Change Your Stripes or Stay Away from Holy Communion
Diocese targets Granholm on abortion

[breakem]

Why did you highlight the needle exchange. Is that against church doctrine?

[Coleus]

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[mom-7]

The Gov. can say that he is Catholic until you know what freezes over. He is a Catholic in name only. You cannot go against the teachings of the Church and be in good standing.It is about time that the Bishops start telling these jokers just where they stand. I cringe everytime I hear these people being refered to as Catholic.