[_Jim]

or are you just speaking generically of all such?

To date, the success of these people has been ZERO.

The cases I have had the opportunity to review - the individuals misinterpret, misidentify, mis-characterize or don't understand their 'lab work' or their 'device'.

Whether it was misinterpreting the 'peak' versus average or RMS (Root Mean Square) value of a waveform as read on a voltmeter as opposed to integrating that waveform on a digital oscilloscope and taking into account such factors as 'phase angle' (or power factor) - or incorrectly performing mathematical calculations to calculate efficiency of their 'device' -

- they turn out to be either wrong or hiding details in order to convince investors in the 'possibility' of their device

[Quix]

I'll take that as an

EMPHATIC YES

that you were speaking generically without any close or careful or perhaps without any exammination at all

of Dr Greer et al's work.

It's easy to agree with you about the vast bulk of such enterprises.