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An Open Letter To President Bush From The Common Man
The Reality Check ^ | 03 February 2004 | Judson Cox

Posted on 02/03/2004 8:57:27 AM PST by Lando Lincoln

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To: Delta-Tango
"I thought the point about NEA funding was rather well written. But he destroyed his whole argument with all the whining about his job. It would have gotten an A from me, but that crybaby routine brings it down to a C-"

You miss the point of the article. It was to point out what the hard working American is thinking, busting their bottoms tilling the farms, stocking the grocery stores, punching a clock at a factory, etc,etc.


41 posted on 02/03/2004 12:41:12 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: American_Centurion
"Or just maybe if he had a better job I would believe that this fictional worker might actually pay taxes. I'm sorry but the loading dock worker and shelf stocker who can barely afford gas, are not the "common man". They are more like the entry-level summer employment/part time teenager or if an actual adult they would fall into the category of LOSER unless they got their job through Melwood."

Apparently you have never traveled into Western Texas. This may not be true where you live but htis does represent a great number of Americans working to fund a corrupt government.
42 posted on 02/03/2004 12:47:57 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: Orangedog
"And the single person making that much money is still contributing more to the tax base than the much vaunted "family of four earning $40,000 or less." They pay zero federal income tax and a good chunk of them get most of their payroll taxes kicked back to them via the (un)Earned Income Tax Credit. Meanwhile the single people and high earners are carrying them."

That is funny, I got more back from the Guberment being single living in an apartment then I do now with a 2 working adult household with a child.

Explain this one to me.
43 posted on 02/03/2004 12:51:19 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: brownsfan
"Ok, allow me to follow your logic. Those folks who worked in factories, my father's generation, sometimes called "America's Greatest Generation". The ones who fought in WWII, worked in factories, and brought their kids up to believe that working for a living is honorable. They are a bunch of losers right? They lack what it takes?
Just want to be sure I have the concepts straight."

Ooooo but they are but the Serfs of the kingdom aren't they?
/sarcasm off
44 posted on 02/03/2004 12:56:37 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: American_Centurion
"If the common man is in fact a victim, he is a victim only of his own lack of discipline and motivation."

No he is a victim of a government that is unconstitutional in their acts and their taxation of the people, expanding government at such a rate it has made its serfs dependant upon the government!
45 posted on 02/03/2004 1:05:01 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: MosesKnows
The point of my rant was that no one is going to gain much sympathy from those of us bearing the lions share of the burden by first setting themselves up as the victim. If you want to get your point across about how your taxes are spent it's best not to make it obvious that you barely pay any.
46 posted on 02/03/2004 1:53:36 PM PST by American_Centurion
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To: AbsoluteJustice
No one is a serf. You can work hard and make your own way.

Regarding your earlier post about West Texas, if it sucks so bad there are 49 other states they can go to. Why would they want to stay? There must be something there that makes them happy, if not then they're just stupid.
47 posted on 02/03/2004 1:58:09 PM PST by American_Centurion
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To: AbsoluteJustice
That is funny, I got more back from the Guberment being single living in an apartment then I do now with a 2 working adult household with a child.

Explain this one to me.

Sure, just post your 1040 and I'll look it over for you ;)

48 posted on 02/03/2004 2:11:02 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: American_Centurion
If you want to get your point across about how your taxes are spent it's best not to make it obvious that you barely pay any.

Considering that 50% of the taxpayers pay 96% of the income taxes it is already fairly obvious that the other 50% of the taxpayers only have to pay the remaining 4% of the income taxes but your point is well taken.

Now, how do you feel about my observation that the federal government is not empowered to spend the public treasury's funds on unconstitutional subsidies?

49 posted on 02/03/2004 2:56:48 PM PST by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows
What the FedGov is and is not empowered to according to the constitution went out the window long before you and I were born.

That said, there are a myriad of "programs" and entitlements I don't agree with but we can only elect those our votes can touch. Granted President Bush is proposing spending on some outlandish programs, but I have to agree with what Rush thinks he is doing, trying to wipe out the Democratic party.

Aside from that what are our options:
1. Vote third party or independent and watch the hardcore lefties get power back.

2. Complete people versus the government revolution? Not likely to gain enough support to do anything other than die in place.

3. Try the old secession thingy again? High probability of an identical outcome to number 2.

4. Accept that a lot of our money is going to be completly wasted, and try to elect enough people with similar values in the effort to reign in some of that spending and place judges who do thier duty instead of making new laws.

Articles similar to this one do have a useful place in the process, but who and what does this particular article really hurt? IMO this article is more harmful to the conservative cause by way of it's use of victimology and it's sideswipe at President Bush the only electable candidate on November's ticket who resembles a conservative.
50 posted on 02/03/2004 5:44:21 PM PST by American_Centurion
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To: Enterprise
I, like others here, believe President Bush should be a tax cuttin, budget reducing fanatic.

Oh....you want him to be a REPUBLICAN!

Well, it's an election year and you'll have to clear that with Karl Rove. Sending pork to the red states, making illegal alien voters feel loved, and giving non-means-tested prescription drugs to seniors comes first, remember? Thanks for the clarification, though.

Maybe if he's re-elected we can all sign a letter or petition and send it to him, reminding him he's a Republican? Can't hurt, eh?

51 posted on 02/03/2004 6:32:16 PM PST by Delta-Tango
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To: American_Centurion
"Regarding your earlier post about West Texas, if it sucks so bad there are 49 other states they can go to. Why would they want to stay? There must be something there that makes them happy, if not then they're just stupid."

You have such a closed view on how the world operates. I am very successful in the IT industry. Sure I have setbacks but I have a great understanding on how hard the working class is sucked dry by the government. I look to my father spending many hard nights in GM so that you can afford the luxury of driving your automobile in the largest industrial nation in the world. In turn this put dinner on our table and kept his family fed. Your words speak miles, it personifies those late night wine sipping parties where the conversation is about "those people" on the other side of town that operate "my factory". Over laughter and more conversation on how to dominate the freeworld you light a cigar relishing over the conquests of the next day. Next day comes and to squeeze in that extra MIL in bonus money you cut 100 people. Typical huh? How do I know this? I worked for Arthur Andersen. But I wouldn't expect you to understand this. Then again this is not really what the article was pointing to. The premise of the article is that guberment is sucking the working class dry so that the wine drinking class can hit that one last bottle over merry talk (congressmen and senators) Make sense to you?
52 posted on 02/03/2004 7:01:08 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: Delta-Tango
Uh, huge grin here! Good post.
53 posted on 02/03/2004 7:25:15 PM PST by Enterprise ("You sit down. You had your say. Now I'm going to have my say.")
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To: AbsoluteJustice
Sorry to reply so late, I've been out of town for almost a week.

You have a totally false perception of my life. I was born and raised in the Mississippi Delta, if you don't know that is not the mouth in Louisiana it is in Mississippi. My family was not even close to wealthy, I never went to any school that wasn't public, and being white I was a minority in the 5% ratio in my graduating class. So with the obviously near non-existent tax base in my school district I probably got an education on par with many inner-city schools if not worse. I tried my hand at college with loans and part time work, failed miserably and had to leave. I joined the military, slowly improved my education and experience over 12 years and when I left I more than doubled my pay as an E-5. I now, due only to hard work and diligence, make so close to 6 figures that it practically is such and during the last 13 years managed to be married and have 3 kids. I have my wine and cigars due to me working my ass off and bettering myself. Anyone else in this country can do the same.

So don't tell me about your father's factory job, because my dad would have been thrilled shitless to have a factory near enough to work in. My Dad told me the reason we were poor was because he stayed there in that armpit of the state, and he urged all his kids to leave and better themselves.

Like I said before if there's nothing in West Texas (read any crappy location in the US) to make you happy you should leave. And I stand by that statement.
54 posted on 02/09/2004 8:49:48 AM PST by American_Centurion
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