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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: Texasforever
I'm afraid you are mistaken. There are plenty of people who lurk here and who post here and your "BUSH PR" effort would get you fired from the RNC.
341 posted on 02/07/2004 9:07:12 PM PST by diotima
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To: EternalVigilance
For someone who seemed to want to reduce the amount of arguing on FR in your first post, you sure have been doing a lot of arguing since then.

342 posted on 02/07/2004 9:08:30 PM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: Nix 2
I am amazed that he has been able to accomplish even a third of what he has managed to do, with little or no help at all from those we trusted for help.

You just don't know how insulting your rhetoric is to conservatives, do you?

Conservatives have done everything but bleed for this President and this administration. They have been his stalwart support, even in the face of insults and disregard.

Think before you type.

343 posted on 02/07/2004 9:10:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: dubyaismypresident
Well, you think you are helping Bush

I am not trying to help anyone I am just pointing out the realities of FR. There are no votes in that 20% that could be gained for Bush by pro-Bush freepers begging or debating. Every reason under the sun for voting Bush has bee put forward and it has done no good just as it did no good in 2000.

344 posted on 02/07/2004 9:10:46 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: diotima
I'm afraid you are mistaken. There are plenty of people who lurk here and who post here and your "BUSH PR" effort would get you fired from the RNC.

Thanks for sharing.

345 posted on 02/07/2004 9:11:38 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: EternalVigilance
Man you are touchy tonight..... I've not slammed a soul in that post. Only talked about some numbers from exit polling, etc, Rove's expectation of Religious Right voters and how Keyes and Buchanan would win FR polls in 2000..... Now if you consider that slamming then so be it....
346 posted on 02/07/2004 9:11:41 PM PST by deport (269 days until Tuesday 2 November - General Election)
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To: texasflower
I think my point is important.

Do you?

Do you find all of the conservative-bashing tiresome and counter-productive?
347 posted on 02/07/2004 9:11:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Texasforever
There are no votes in that 20% that could be gained for Bush by pro-Bush freepers begging or debating.

For a third time, SOURCE PLEASE!

348 posted on 02/07/2004 9:12:20 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: deport
They just can't stand the thought that the GOP has moved on and left them behind.
349 posted on 02/07/2004 9:13:15 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Every reason under the sun for voting Bush has bee put forward and it has done no good just as it did no good in 2000.

Yeah. In that wonderful 'compassionate conservative' tone.

And yes, I will turn off my sarcasm tag.

/sarcasm

350 posted on 02/07/2004 9:13:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Nix 2
I haven't spoken in generalities. I am speaking to exactly what I've seen, heard, and read right here and on State Pages. Some of the rhetoric is appalling. That is what I was addressing...

It would be wiser to address it on a case by case, poster by poster, quote by quote basis, IMO.

351 posted on 02/07/2004 9:13:48 PM PST by .30Carbine (Is the Right to Life your number one issue?)
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To: Happygal
FR IS one big dysfunctional family so you're just watching two brothers fight!
352 posted on 02/07/2004 9:14:23 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Texasforever
They just can't stand the thought that the GOP has moved on and left them behind.

Baloney.

353 posted on 02/07/2004 9:14:25 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Texasforever
"That 20% is and always has been anti-GOP/Bush."

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Exactly. Again -- they don't want to take responsibility for their convictions and actions, that they may be responsible for the election of Kerry, the same way they were responsible for the election of Bill Clinton.

To deflect that responsibility, they blame Bush and those who support him, for somehow "turning them off".
354 posted on 02/07/2004 9:14:47 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: EternalVigilance
One of the interesting to note, espcially from the people who throw out "statistics" on FR like "He gains two votes for every one he picks up by moving center" is that the centrists don't go out and campaign, they don't go out and talk up their candidate, they don't knock on doors, they don't register voters and they don't get out the word.

Doesn't seem like a good gamble to me.......

355 posted on 02/07/2004 9:15:14 PM PST by diotima
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To: dubyaismypresident
Picky, picky....;^)
356 posted on 02/07/2004 9:16:05 PM PST by diotima
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To: dubyaismypresident
Look at past fr polls, and past election threads. I stand by my 20% if you don't believe it fine. EVERY election the 3rd party guys come out of the woodwork. These guys are NOT potential GOP voters.
357 posted on 02/07/2004 9:16:29 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: diotima
Yep.
358 posted on 02/07/2004 9:16:57 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Sorry, but you are wrong or you are intentionally avoiding the rest of the bill. It's a real shame that you would jump on the bandwagon against Phameceutical Companies when their choices have been narrowed to practically nil by the very Socialist Countries who will NOT ber their share of the burden. Thank Hitlery for screwing them into the ground as much as she could, and don't talk to me about gouging. Canada gouges us. Mexico gouges us. Every country that doesn't pay its fair share gouges us. But I rather like being in healthy condition, and I rather think that most seniors were doing pretty well in spite of all the beserkers. There is a rather unique program among American Pharm. Companies. If medication is necessary, and for some reason, there is no help to be found anywhere, they provide the medication on a private basis. When was the last time you heard of someone dying from lack of suitable medication or healthcare in this country?
359 posted on 02/07/2004 9:17:01 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: All
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4205947/

Here's a chance to help the President.
360 posted on 02/07/2004 9:17:47 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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