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Angry cries of America's 'outsourced' middle class
The Arizona Republic ^ | 03.09.04 | E.J. Montini

Posted on 03/09/2004 5:35:30 PM PST by Beck_isright

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:22:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: raloxk
Bureau of Labor statistics:

January 2001 Employment - 136.0 million

January 2004 Employment - 138.566 million

161 posted on 03/09/2004 7:41:46 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: Beck_isright
This class warfare nonsense grates my nerves.


Show 'em my motto!

162 posted on 03/09/2004 7:41:57 PM PST by rdb3 (The Servant of Jehovah is the Christ of Calvary and of the empty tomb. <><)
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To: CWOJackson
So tell me more about this little fan wench?

All I know is he takes offence REALLY easily.

163 posted on 03/09/2004 7:42:16 PM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: Texasforever
Yes, I've noticed a lot of moral indignation around here these past couple of days.
164 posted on 03/09/2004 7:44:59 PM PST by CWOJackson (What are you complaining about, she called me compassionate...)
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To: clamper1797
Jerk?

The guy is whining about the economy, that he's been unemployed since 2001, but he turned down job offers.

Screw the internet access...how does he afford a phone line?

Or is that free too, jerk?

How does an individual stay unemployed 30 months and turn down "offers"?
165 posted on 03/09/2004 7:45:04 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: oceanview
Bush should sign that bill as fast as possible.

Yes he should if he wants to get re-elected and stop the bad reports about the "jobless recovery" showing very awful stats on job creation.

166 posted on 03/09/2004 7:45:46 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I wonder if George Soros has been hiring lately?
167 posted on 03/09/2004 7:46:06 PM PST by CWOJackson (What are you complaining about, she called me compassionate...)
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To: clamper1797
By the way...

I didn't mean to attack your woman.
168 posted on 03/09/2004 7:47:02 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: jpsb
They don't, they are the pampered sons of the wealthy elites and it's all a game to them. This will be the first election since 1968 that I will not vote in.

You can't let the pampered sons of the wealthy elites affect your voting decisions --- they're actually harmful to their candidate with their arrogance --- but there are two choices in this election --- vote third party -- something like the Constitution Party --- or think about what happens if a democrat wins --- Kerry for example --- the economy is bad but it went bad under Clinton ---- the democrats believe in outsourcing every bit as much as the republicans.

169 posted on 03/09/2004 7:47:26 PM PST by FITZ
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To: CWOJackson
That's one offer he wouldn't have turned down.
170 posted on 03/09/2004 7:48:05 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: BearWash
That "buggy whips" argument is a canard. Can someone please tell me how being a doctor of radiology or a Cold Fusion programmer is obsolete? Fact is that its not.
171 posted on 03/09/2004 7:48:42 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: rdb3
"This class warfare nonsense grates my nerves."

What does "outsourcing" have to do with class warfare? The ignorance and political blindness of the Rovians will cost this President his re-election. That is the primary point.

Of course it will cost our nation it's economic future also, but who cares about that.

Party on dude.
172 posted on 03/09/2004 7:48:51 PM PST by Beck_isright ("I did not have sexual relations with that woman" - (Fill in name of Democrat here))
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To: KC_Conspirator
Yes he should if he wants to get re-elected and stop the bad reports about the "jobless recovery" showing very awful stats on job creation.

So how many jobs should Bush "create" to get the unemployment figure down to your liking

173 posted on 03/09/2004 7:49:51 PM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: valkyrieanne
middle-aged women are being laid off right and left; many of them go to live with their aging parents & end up taking care of them.

How can people who are out of work move in with their aging parents, and take care of them? By eating out of garbage cans? Rob banks?

A lot of husbands are staying home while their wives work. As was previously mentioned, many college grads or even young people in their late 20s are moving back in with their parents.

So these 8.2 million people in the work force who've can't find work and have dropped off the unemployment roles have all moved back in with their parents or are letting their wives support them.

Wow. We must have a pretty prosperous society if 8.2 million workers can lose all their income and just be absorbed and become invisible to the unemployment stats by becoming dependants on by relatives who are making enough money to support them.

174 posted on 03/09/2004 7:52:14 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Texasforever
" So how many jobs should Bush "create" to get the unemployment figure down to your liking."

I think creating over 600,000 to 700,000 government or government related jobs in the last 3 years is plenty. Now maybe we can get W to create some private sector jobs for non-Mexican legal American citizens by getting this beast of a government off the entreprenuer's backs.
175 posted on 03/09/2004 7:54:09 PM PST by Beck_isright ("I did not have sexual relations with that woman" - (Fill in name of Democrat here))
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To: KC_Conspirator
Can someone please tell me how being a doctor of radiology or a Cold Fusion programmer is obsolete? Fact is that its not.

Who said they are obsolete, there are just a worldwide supply of them willing to do it cheaper. Supply and demand.

176 posted on 03/09/2004 7:55:30 PM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: Jorge
how much more money does it cost parents to take one of their children back under their roof? not much. the "aging" parents are actually doing quite well financially in many cases.
177 posted on 03/09/2004 7:56:33 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Texasforever; Monty22
Now playing innocent. Sounds like a clintonite now.

What did Texasforever do?

What is the offending post number?

178 posted on 03/09/2004 7:56:52 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: templar
"She tells me they are almost overwhelmed with requests for help."

My father-in-law is active with St. Vincent duPaul through the local catholic church. He says they can't keep up. Not only is the native population hurting, they are now overrun by illegal aliens. The situation he finds very frustrating is that while they don't turn anyone away, he feels the resource was set up to help the community. He said some people drive a considerable way for assistance only to be beaten there by the illegals.

179 posted on 03/09/2004 7:57:17 PM PST by Ches
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Well thank you ... my wife keeps us fed and pays the phone and the power but can't afford to pay the mortgage. I am a 25 year computer chip design engineer with an advanced degree ... I can't get a job. I was laid off by Motorola when they moved the entire plant to Bejing, in Jan 2002 and was out work until Nov 2002. I worked for another company until the entire dept was shipped to Singapore in Aug of 2003. I've seen you post before hence the impulsive
ad hominid. You will forgive me that I had saved enough in my many years of hard work to save enough to keep us a float till now and that I keep a phone line and an internet connection so that I might try to find a job.
180 posted on 03/09/2004 7:57:17 PM PST by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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