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"That's So Gay."
Mensnewsdaily.com ^ | 3/28/04 | Bernard Chapin

Posted on 03/28/2004 5:26:22 PM PST by gdogdaily

I spoke to my friend Robert today and he told me about a Jewish comedian he saw in New York’s East Village last night who had a strictly politically incorrect act. Apparently, he began with a joke about how it was okay for blacks to refer to him as a “Crackah” but not a “Cracker” because the word “Cracker” violated his civil rights. From there he progressed to how much abuse he took for using the word “gay” as a way to describe things that were goofy or foolish.

One day it seems a homosexual took issue with his speech. “I’m really offended that you say gay for things you don’t like. How would you like it if I said ‘that’s really Jewish’ for things I don’t like?”

The comedian thought about it for a moment. Then he said, “Man, that would be really gay of you to use Jewish like that. That’s so G-A-Y. I’m really disappointed in you.”

It’s a funny tale but there are all too few similar ones to be found in contemporary America. I went to various different dictionary websites and was unable to find gay defined as “outlandish, goofy, bizarre” or “peculiar” on any of them.

Therefore, I’ll refer to my and the comedian’s usage as being the seventh, shadow definition of a term no dictionary has the courage to define (seventh due to no source offering more than six). The seventh interpretation of gay is the way in which many people from my generation once principally used the term. Today, sadly, more and more of us are gradually being intimidated into not using the word under any circumstances whatsoever.

But I personally object to this capitulation. I am a conservative and we conservatives must conserve what is essential and valuable to society, and, in my opinion, the shadow usage of gay is something we should not willingly abandon.

Why is using the word to describe the strange or the suspicious frowned upon? It’s absolutely perfect and no adjective or noun easily replaces it. Why should it go the way of the XFL? There is certainly nothing hateful behind its utilization. My father nor my mother ever used the term in the fashion I do and they grew up at a time in which gays experienced real discrimination and inequality (as opposed to the present when queer studies majors might rally over realizing that they do not garner the same salary as accounting majors). To me, it’s not an odious term at any level.

I refuse to abandon the phrase. It’s magnificent and a perfect way to depict so many individuals and situations one encounters. Besides, it’s a question of heritage and pride. To reject it is to reject my own generation, and, Ethan Hawke and Winona Ryder notwithstanding, I’m proud to be a member of Generation X. These are my brothers and my sisters and we luckily grew up without the excessive sensitivity that so plagues the children of this new millennium and that’s one reason why our futures will be so much brighter.

When we were bred back in those offensive days of the 1970s, life could be discussed far more realistically and honestly than it can be today. In those days television didn’t have to be reality based as people experienced truth in their daily lives. Television didn’t hide unpleasantries and was not always a complete waste of time. Do you think programs like “WKRP in Cincinnati” or “Three’s Company” would be made today? Never, their content was too risqué (but complete nudity would not be).

In the seventies, before cultural Marxism ravaged and neutered our civilization, we could get away with being judgmental and, thus, be ourselves. Guys like Howard Cosell and Archie Bunker would never be broadcast anywhere today.

Those of us who smile when we recall campy videos by The Clash, The B52s, and The Police do not wish to negate the past. How bad can it be when you can wake up at 6 am and find chicks with feathered hair and purple leg warmers hopping around on your small screen? No, I’ll stand with my generation. I won’t sell them out for the kudos of a bunch of PC automatons.

Furthermore, by saying “that’s so gay” is a shortcut for Generation Xers to recognize and bond with one another. I recall being on a date in 2000 when the girl stopped me mid-sentence and asked, “Wait a minute. Did you just say ‘that’s so gay’?” I nodded. “I love that. Nobody says that anymore. Me and my friends do…in private.”

Why should we have to retire a phrase like “that’s so gay” from our conversation? Just because gay activists will hate us? [Although, interestingly enough, it is never we who hate them.] Well, look, I understand that no one wants to be a bully and I admit that a large part of gay culture would fall under my rubric of, “man, that is so gay” but I don’t see how heterosexuals are going to make those people happy at any level.

Look at the way they tried to crucify my fellow Generation Xer, filmmaker Kevin Smith, for the way in which he made jokes and used the word gay in a movie. Now this fellow is so gay friendly that he practically has “I cry whenever I hear gays are denied a marriage ceremony, expensive flowers, and a reception at Rockefeller Center” tattooed upon his chest, but that’s still not enough for the gay lobby. They went after him anyway. I say, why even try to placate these contentophobes?

I will not say that there are not risks at irritating the gay lobby though. I know from personal experience that the gays have within their ranks some of the most vindictive and vicious of all human beings. I found this out even though I rarely address homosexuals. Yet, on the sporadic occasions when I have, the responses were swift and fierce. They were some of the most vitriolic emails that I’ve ever received. They’ll call you all sorts of names and even imply that you are one of them. This is due to their imagining that any who criticize them must be closet homosexuals. By what reasoning this is true I cannot imagine, but I’ve heard it enough to know that it is their standard operating procedure. One even told me, after I wrote a favorable review of Ann Coulter’s Treason, that the reason for my admiration of her was due to my wishing to be a beautiful transsexual (sic) like her.

My eternal rebuttal to this massive criticism is that “it’s all so f------ gay.”

Honestly though, their antagonism towards the term “gay” is mostly misplaced. In my case, most of the time I use it I’m not referring to homosexuals at all, but, it does remain quite descriptive of their behaviors. I used to live in the gay area of Chicago from November of 1998 until March of 2003. It was strange days indeed.

The area was referred to as Lakeview by heterosexuals, and by the city itself, but the gays dubbed it Boystown. I found that to many homosexual fantasists, the iron law concerning their kind is that they never do anything odd or abnormal in the least and that they are exactly like everyone else. This is entirely fallacious.

The gays are nothing like everyone else from what I experienced. I once observed a gay guy getting thrown out of a 7-11. He yelled back at the Indian clerk, “This is just because I’m gay!” But the reason he was thrown out was due to his not wearing a shirt. Perhaps because he was gay he thought he deserved special treatment from the oppression of cotton, but the sign clearly said that customers had to wear shirts.

I knew several gays from my gym and one of them informed me of a bar he frequently visited known as The Cellblock. It had an unlit room in the back where everybody had freeform sex provided they wore an article of leather. I thought, you can only get in if you wear leather? Now that’s really gay.

What other word could describe what I saw the morning of the 2002 Gay Pride Parade when, as I reclined at the leg press of the Ashland Avenue Powerhouse Gym, I viewed a guy cruise by wearing only a cowboy hat, a Speedo, and combat boots. Isn’t “gay” the nicest form of addressing such tomfoolery? Why ask why you get made fun of when your pride consists of wearing a Speedo in public? You should get made fun of and as often as possible. For those of our readers who live nowhere near the gay enclaves, surf the net and examine some of their slang and lingo for yourselves to decide if they really are just like you. My bet is that, like me, you’ll conclude they’re a unique bunch.

Hey, I’ll report, you decide, but, as for me, I’ll keep describing the whimsical and bizarre with the term “gay.” I merely ask that you consider joining me. Here is yet another opportunity to fight a battle in the war against political correctness. Let’s fight them on the beaches, on the fields, on the streets, and in the haciendas, boutiques, salons and hide- outs of all things wacky. Join me brothers and sisters, the only thing you have to lose are your professorial acquaintances and non-judgmental friends. And isn’t their loss a good in itself?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: comedy; culture; gay; gays; generation; homosexualagenda; pc
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To: dubyaismypresident
Try raising that donut within five feet of her!
81 posted on 03/29/2004 3:39:54 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: gdogdaily

"Don't forget about me, boyzzzz...."

82 posted on 03/29/2004 3:46:26 AM PST by Jhensy
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Hegewisch Dupa
HD needs to be included, bc he is just so gay... ; )
83 posted on 03/29/2004 4:35:04 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: gdogdaily
One day it seems a homosexual took issue with his speech. “I’m really offended that you say gay for things you don’t like. How would you like it if I said ‘that’s really Jewish’ for things I don’t like?”

The comedian thought about it for a moment. Then he said, “Man, that would be really gay of you to use Jewish like that. That’s so G-A-Y. I’m really disappointed in you.”

What an ignorant ass. Is he really unaware that the word "jew" was once commonly used as a verb to mean "cheat?" Is he that stupid? Judging from the rest of the article, I'd have to say Y-E-S. Ignorant bigot.

84 posted on 03/29/2004 5:05:25 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: xsmommy
yeah, well, when you need that basement of yours decorated I doubt you'll call your boy-toys Martin or Hobbes....
85 posted on 03/29/2004 6:10:54 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
And Michael scraped the bottom of the barrel. That woman is UGLY. Anyway have been a Michael fan since day one, but my understanding is that he is very anti-Bush.

Whatever. That's your opinion, and you know what they say about opinions and how everyone has one... But if Catherine Hickland is so "UGLY," I'm very curious as to just how gorgeous you are. I notice you haven't posted your picture for comparison...

As for Michael being "very anti-Bush," that may very well be, but I'm not just going to take your word on that. However, I do take the word of a good friend of his who told me that he's a Republican.

88 posted on 03/29/2004 7:30:38 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: TonyRo76
Might this qualify?

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_905414.html

Mexico sets up gay football league

Mexico has set up a gay football league for homosexual players.

All match officials will also have to be gay, reports Mix Brazil.

The league is made up of five teams: The Clan, Fashion Team, The F***ers, G Strength and Your Mother.

They will compete for a cup and the chance to represent Mexico at the World Gay Football Championship.


.....SURELY it can't be a real news article. But regardless of its veracity, how utterly gay! (In several senses of the word...)
89 posted on 03/29/2004 8:52:31 AM PST by KangarooJacqui (Living next to the biggest Islamic country on earth, don't all Aussies deserve danger money?)
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To: gdogdaily
What a queer thing to get upset about.

queer ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kwîr) adj. queer·er, queer·est
1. Deviating from the expected or normal; strange: a queer situation.
2.Odd or unconventional, as in behavior; eccentric. See Synonyms at strange.
3.Of a questionable nature or character; suspicious. Slang.
4. Fake; counterfeit.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


90 posted on 03/29/2004 8:58:12 AM PST by weegee (From the way the Spanish voted - it seems that the Europeans do know there is an Iraq-Al Qaida link.)
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To: Christopher Dion
Now 'gay' just means that one is too immature to have a meaningful relationship with the opposite sex.

I see it as the "diversity" crowd embracing couples who cannot tolerate being intimiate with someone of the opposite sex. Some "diversity".

91 posted on 03/29/2004 9:00:25 AM PST by weegee (From the way the Spanish voted - it seems that the Europeans do know there is an Iraq-Al Qaida link.)
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To: Keith in Iowa; All
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but indeed "gay" did simply mean happy. Tons of old movies use the word as meaning happy and fun. Up until I guess the '60s or so (as usual, it's always the damn '60s). Perhaps homos were viewed as largely happy and fun and requisitioned the word?

Let's recall some cultural history here. After all, 1 of the 1st decades ever to be "named" was the Gay Nineties. That's 1890s, to be specific.

Well, rather early on I noted myself that we'd gone from the Gay '90s to the Gay '90s in just 100 years.
92 posted on 03/29/2004 9:43:37 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: Loyalist
Unfortunately I think you'll find that Mr. Richard isn't gay! ;-)
93 posted on 03/29/2004 9:44:15 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
What's funny is that likewise, "queer" did not originate w/homosexuality either, yet that apparently was likewise applied to them and then homos started commandeering it for themselves. "Gay" must've been more acceptable to them, tho, altho you'll still see proud references to "queer" (hah! to wit: "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy")

Difference being that "queer" was always "weird", whereas "gay" was "happy", so I'm sure the homos liked it better. Most of this is just speculation, tho! ;-)
94 posted on 03/29/2004 9:54:38 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: I'm ALL Right!
Hey now wait a minute! Stop trying to do the double-standard thing of getting men out of wearing tight pants while women have to show it off! As long as you want thongs, I want men's speedos! :-O (i.e., there are plenty that look *just fine*, thank you very much!)
95 posted on 03/29/2004 10:00:31 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: SuziQ
I agree, and the same w/"queer" and every other word that's been bastardized in the last century!
96 posted on 03/29/2004 10:02:50 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: Just Another Lurker; All
ROFL, but then I'm also puzzled.

When these situation arise, we should ask, "Are you upset that YOU are being called homosexual, or that this is a slam ON homosexuals?" Or both?

I love liberals. They tell us we should be "tolerant" of homos and celebrate the diversity they bring, but they have no qualms quickly pointing out (if true) that some1 of their enemy is homosexual - which apparently means it's a bad thing!

Think as the #1 example as J Edgar Hoover. Not that it's true, but since libs hate him they go all out if they can, and they'll make fun of him as being "gay".

Oh the hypocrisy.
97 posted on 03/29/2004 10:09:02 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: gdogdaily
What about the Christmas song with the line "don we now our gay apparel"?


98 posted on 03/29/2004 10:09:16 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I have to say, I don't understand how that woman is ugly....
99 posted on 03/29/2004 10:16:17 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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