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"That's So Gay."
Mensnewsdaily.com ^ | 3/28/04 | Bernard Chapin

Posted on 03/28/2004 5:26:22 PM PST by gdogdaily

I spoke to my friend Robert today and he told me about a Jewish comedian he saw in New York’s East Village last night who had a strictly politically incorrect act. Apparently, he began with a joke about how it was okay for blacks to refer to him as a “Crackah” but not a “Cracker” because the word “Cracker” violated his civil rights. From there he progressed to how much abuse he took for using the word “gay” as a way to describe things that were goofy or foolish.

One day it seems a homosexual took issue with his speech. “I’m really offended that you say gay for things you don’t like. How would you like it if I said ‘that’s really Jewish’ for things I don’t like?”

The comedian thought about it for a moment. Then he said, “Man, that would be really gay of you to use Jewish like that. That’s so G-A-Y. I’m really disappointed in you.”

It’s a funny tale but there are all too few similar ones to be found in contemporary America. I went to various different dictionary websites and was unable to find gay defined as “outlandish, goofy, bizarre” or “peculiar” on any of them.

Therefore, I’ll refer to my and the comedian’s usage as being the seventh, shadow definition of a term no dictionary has the courage to define (seventh due to no source offering more than six). The seventh interpretation of gay is the way in which many people from my generation once principally used the term. Today, sadly, more and more of us are gradually being intimidated into not using the word under any circumstances whatsoever.

But I personally object to this capitulation. I am a conservative and we conservatives must conserve what is essential and valuable to society, and, in my opinion, the shadow usage of gay is something we should not willingly abandon.

Why is using the word to describe the strange or the suspicious frowned upon? It’s absolutely perfect and no adjective or noun easily replaces it. Why should it go the way of the XFL? There is certainly nothing hateful behind its utilization. My father nor my mother ever used the term in the fashion I do and they grew up at a time in which gays experienced real discrimination and inequality (as opposed to the present when queer studies majors might rally over realizing that they do not garner the same salary as accounting majors). To me, it’s not an odious term at any level.

I refuse to abandon the phrase. It’s magnificent and a perfect way to depict so many individuals and situations one encounters. Besides, it’s a question of heritage and pride. To reject it is to reject my own generation, and, Ethan Hawke and Winona Ryder notwithstanding, I’m proud to be a member of Generation X. These are my brothers and my sisters and we luckily grew up without the excessive sensitivity that so plagues the children of this new millennium and that’s one reason why our futures will be so much brighter.

When we were bred back in those offensive days of the 1970s, life could be discussed far more realistically and honestly than it can be today. In those days television didn’t have to be reality based as people experienced truth in their daily lives. Television didn’t hide unpleasantries and was not always a complete waste of time. Do you think programs like “WKRP in Cincinnati” or “Three’s Company” would be made today? Never, their content was too risqué (but complete nudity would not be).

In the seventies, before cultural Marxism ravaged and neutered our civilization, we could get away with being judgmental and, thus, be ourselves. Guys like Howard Cosell and Archie Bunker would never be broadcast anywhere today.

Those of us who smile when we recall campy videos by The Clash, The B52s, and The Police do not wish to negate the past. How bad can it be when you can wake up at 6 am and find chicks with feathered hair and purple leg warmers hopping around on your small screen? No, I’ll stand with my generation. I won’t sell them out for the kudos of a bunch of PC automatons.

Furthermore, by saying “that’s so gay” is a shortcut for Generation Xers to recognize and bond with one another. I recall being on a date in 2000 when the girl stopped me mid-sentence and asked, “Wait a minute. Did you just say ‘that’s so gay’?” I nodded. “I love that. Nobody says that anymore. Me and my friends do…in private.”

Why should we have to retire a phrase like “that’s so gay” from our conversation? Just because gay activists will hate us? [Although, interestingly enough, it is never we who hate them.] Well, look, I understand that no one wants to be a bully and I admit that a large part of gay culture would fall under my rubric of, “man, that is so gay” but I don’t see how heterosexuals are going to make those people happy at any level.

Look at the way they tried to crucify my fellow Generation Xer, filmmaker Kevin Smith, for the way in which he made jokes and used the word gay in a movie. Now this fellow is so gay friendly that he practically has “I cry whenever I hear gays are denied a marriage ceremony, expensive flowers, and a reception at Rockefeller Center” tattooed upon his chest, but that’s still not enough for the gay lobby. They went after him anyway. I say, why even try to placate these contentophobes?

I will not say that there are not risks at irritating the gay lobby though. I know from personal experience that the gays have within their ranks some of the most vindictive and vicious of all human beings. I found this out even though I rarely address homosexuals. Yet, on the sporadic occasions when I have, the responses were swift and fierce. They were some of the most vitriolic emails that I’ve ever received. They’ll call you all sorts of names and even imply that you are one of them. This is due to their imagining that any who criticize them must be closet homosexuals. By what reasoning this is true I cannot imagine, but I’ve heard it enough to know that it is their standard operating procedure. One even told me, after I wrote a favorable review of Ann Coulter’s Treason, that the reason for my admiration of her was due to my wishing to be a beautiful transsexual (sic) like her.

My eternal rebuttal to this massive criticism is that “it’s all so f------ gay.”

Honestly though, their antagonism towards the term “gay” is mostly misplaced. In my case, most of the time I use it I’m not referring to homosexuals at all, but, it does remain quite descriptive of their behaviors. I used to live in the gay area of Chicago from November of 1998 until March of 2003. It was strange days indeed.

The area was referred to as Lakeview by heterosexuals, and by the city itself, but the gays dubbed it Boystown. I found that to many homosexual fantasists, the iron law concerning their kind is that they never do anything odd or abnormal in the least and that they are exactly like everyone else. This is entirely fallacious.

The gays are nothing like everyone else from what I experienced. I once observed a gay guy getting thrown out of a 7-11. He yelled back at the Indian clerk, “This is just because I’m gay!” But the reason he was thrown out was due to his not wearing a shirt. Perhaps because he was gay he thought he deserved special treatment from the oppression of cotton, but the sign clearly said that customers had to wear shirts.

I knew several gays from my gym and one of them informed me of a bar he frequently visited known as The Cellblock. It had an unlit room in the back where everybody had freeform sex provided they wore an article of leather. I thought, you can only get in if you wear leather? Now that’s really gay.

What other word could describe what I saw the morning of the 2002 Gay Pride Parade when, as I reclined at the leg press of the Ashland Avenue Powerhouse Gym, I viewed a guy cruise by wearing only a cowboy hat, a Speedo, and combat boots. Isn’t “gay” the nicest form of addressing such tomfoolery? Why ask why you get made fun of when your pride consists of wearing a Speedo in public? You should get made fun of and as often as possible. For those of our readers who live nowhere near the gay enclaves, surf the net and examine some of their slang and lingo for yourselves to decide if they really are just like you. My bet is that, like me, you’ll conclude they’re a unique bunch.

Hey, I’ll report, you decide, but, as for me, I’ll keep describing the whimsical and bizarre with the term “gay.” I merely ask that you consider joining me. Here is yet another opportunity to fight a battle in the war against political correctness. Let’s fight them on the beaches, on the fields, on the streets, and in the haciendas, boutiques, salons and hide- outs of all things wacky. Join me brothers and sisters, the only thing you have to lose are your professorial acquaintances and non-judgmental friends. And isn’t their loss a good in itself?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: comedy; culture; gay; gays; generation; homosexualagenda; pc
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1 posted on 03/28/2004 5:26:22 PM PST by gdogdaily
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To: gdogdaily
What about the Christmas song with the line "don we now our gay apparel"? Time has changed the meaning of that phrase, hasn't it?
2 posted on 03/28/2004 5:29:45 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Democrats are the real asses of evil.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
I forgot all about that song. Quite appropriate though.
3 posted on 03/28/2004 5:32:30 PM PST by gdogdaily
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To: Keith in Iowa
I forgot all about that song. Quite appropriate though.
4 posted on 03/28/2004 5:32:42 PM PST by gdogdaily
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5 posted on 03/28/2004 5:36:09 PM PST by Loyalist (Liberate Hans Island from the Danish imperialist aggressors!)
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To: gdogdaily
There's one thing I'd like to say .....

THAT'S JUST SO GAY!!!
6 posted on 03/28/2004 5:37:02 PM PST by shekkian
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To: gdogdaily
I don't use the term "that's so gay", but I heard my brother use it a few times. (We were both, as the article puts it, "bred in the seventies".)

But when my gay friends (I do have one or two - I just never discuss politics with them) describe heterosexuals as "breeders" (said in a derogatory tone - always), I reserve the right to get really %$#&ing angry.
7 posted on 03/28/2004 5:38:09 PM PST by KangarooJacqui (Always looking to the skies...)
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To: Loyalist
That Simmons stuff is great, my buddy sent me one but i didn't save it--unfortunately
8 posted on 03/28/2004 5:38:16 PM PST by gdogdaily
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To: Keith in Iowa
How about "I Feel Pretty", from West Side Story*. Maria sings about feeling "...pretty, and witty, and gay"...."for I'm loved by a pretty wonderful boy".

*(One of my most-favorite movies.)
9 posted on 03/28/2004 5:38:39 PM PST by OldBlondBabe
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To: gdogdaily
Well, I don't mind. *Shrugs* Personally, I kinda wish that the term "gai" (Meaning a male homosexual) didn't evolve into "gay," just so we could make a distinction between silly and homosexual, though maybe the word meaning happy and silly evolved from "gai" as well.

However, I still think it's fun to make people's heads explode when I snap, "Hey, I resemble that remark!" and then they turn and see that I'm wearing a cross necklace and a "Vote Bush" T-shirt.

</Blather mode>

Aaaaaaaanyways, the culture war escalates. Huzzah!

10 posted on 03/28/2004 5:39:00 PM PST by Luircin (Sanity is only measured relative to insanity)
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To: qam1
One for your Gen-X ping list, perhaps?
11 posted on 03/28/2004 5:41:31 PM PST by KangarooJacqui (Always looking to the skies...)
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To: Luircin
good point, how about "gaye" to mean silly?
12 posted on 03/28/2004 5:44:52 PM PST by gdogdaily
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To: shekkian

Gay. Totally gay. Liberace gay.

13 posted on 03/28/2004 5:46:01 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: gdogdaily
This is an injoke started at a photoshopping board I go to when I'm not at FR, kinda like the "series" and "hugh" injokes here (i.e. started by trolls with no spelling ability...)


14 posted on 03/28/2004 5:49:17 PM PST by KangarooJacqui (Always looking to the skies...)
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To: gdogdaily
When I was a kid way, way, way back in the 1960's, my favorite show was the Flintstones.

Flintstones... Meet the Flintstones,
They're a modern stoneage family.
From the town of Bedrock,
They're a page right out of history.

Let's ride with the family down the street.
Through the courtesy of Fred's two feet.

When you're with the Flintstones,
have a yabba dabba doo time,
a dabba doo time,
we'll have a gay old time

Sad that I can't show these old cartoons to my grandkids without having to explain that 'gay' used to mean 'happy', 'fun', etc...

Now 'gay' just means that one is too immature to have a meaningful relationship with the opposite sex.

15 posted on 03/28/2004 5:57:45 PM PST by Christopher Dion (Mountain Dew and doughnuts... because breakfast is the most important meal of the day.)
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To: gdogdaily
I guess I lead a sheltered life, but I never heard the word gay used to refer to something being foolish. Flamboyant and effeminate, yes, but not specifically foolish.

16 posted on 03/28/2004 5:58:27 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: KangarooJacqui; qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; ...
Thank You for the Ping

Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social aspects that directly effects Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1982) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details.

17 posted on 03/28/2004 6:12:38 PM PST by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1
Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist

But the question enquiring minds are asking is...

Is he GAY?


;-)
18 posted on 03/28/2004 6:19:18 PM PST by KangarooJacqui (Always looking to the skies...)
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To: Kirkwood
I don't know what generation you're from but my son is 27 and uses (still) the gay term to mean weird or nerdy. He explained it to me as being used the same as queer would be so something can be queer or gay.
19 posted on 03/28/2004 6:21:49 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (It's painless to be a monthly donor!)
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To: gdogdaily; Keith in Iowa
What other word could describe what I saw the morning of the 2002 Gay Pride Parade when, as I reclined at the leg press of the Ashland Avenue Powerhouse Gym, I viewed a guy cruise by wearing only a cowboy hat, a Speedo, and combat boots. Isn’t “gay” the nicest form of addressing such tomfoolery? Why ask why you get made fun of when your pride consists of wearing a Speedo in public? You should get made fun of and as often as possible. For those of our readers who live nowhere near the gay enclaves, surf the net and examine some of their slang and lingo for yourselves to decide if they really are just like you. My bet is that, like me, you’ll conclude they’re a unique bunch.

The local rag, The Desert Sun, is based in Palm Springs (the other end of our Coachella Valley)....they used to publish pics of the lads described as above during their parades, but quit in the past year or so.

It might have something to do with the fact that Palm Springs now has a higher per capita homosexual population than either San Francisco or West Hollywood.....and that four of the five city council members (including mayor) are "proper-use-of-anatomical-plumbing challenged"

20 posted on 03/28/2004 6:24:14 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Gay marriage is for suckers...)
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