Pistol under pillow shoots sleeping man

Washington Times ^ | apr. 3 | unknown

[Myrddin]

Don't underestimate a .22LR. That caliber kills more people every year than the larger caliber rounds. A successful kill is more about placement than caliber. The .22LR is so small that placement is critical. Still, a round through the aorta will put you down. A .22LR to the head will "rattle around" and do much damage. I prefer a minimum 125 gr JHP in .357 mag.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Pillows - let's outlaw them too.

[AnAmericanMother]

"A three legged dog limps into a saloon in the Old West. He slides up to the bar orders a whiskey and announces "I'm looking for the man who shot my paw!!"

OMG! That old groaner is still making the rounds, I see.

Was the dog's name "Lucky"? (another old joke.)

[dogbrain]

Never bring a pillow to a gunfight.

Never bring a gun to a pillowfight.

[dogbrain]

"A .22LR to the head will "rattle around" and do much damage."

Unless, of course, there isn't anything to damage.

[Myrddin]

Why are there even .22LR rifles?

Because some of us enjoy putting 10 rounds through the same hole at 100 yards. The .22LR is dirt cheap. You can pick up a 500 round brick for $10 and have a very pleasant day target shooting, plinking cans or hunting rabbits. The .22LR rifle is a great tool to become a fine marksman without trashing your budget.

[Fiddlstix]

.........Thursday night with a loaded .22-caliber revolved.............

My Lord! It Was LOADED!
(Imagine That!)

[Wilhelm Tell]

I once read a "news" story about some criminal who was caught with a .22 caliber revolver. They played up that it was .22 Long Rifle caliber. Suddenly the gun morphs into something like a "repeat-fire long rifle." I kid you not. A little old revolver was written up to seem like an "assault rifle." Someone ignorant about guns would think it was a machine gun instead of a revolver of a small caliber.

[nuconvert]

Lol

Haven't had any more my-sibling's-been-sleeping-or-watching-TV-for-the past-year-but-hasn't moved stories lately.
What's happening?

[dogbrain]

the .22 wasn't the only thing "loaded" I'll bet...

[ExSoldier]

Ah...but in my case they have to be MAC compatible. Teachers and Macs just seem to go together. I'll always have a Mac.

[AnAmericanMother]

My silly husband has BOTH - on the same LAN.

He somehow makes it work - transfers pix back and forth through the LAN. (Mine not to question why, I just use it and call for him when it doesn't work.)

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

This is why I hate those crazy liberal anti-gun zealots. They can't stand the 2nd Admendment and people defending themselves with guns. I can understand if they demonize an AK-47 in the media but I am sickened that they can make a weak revolver look like a RPG-7!

[neverdem]

Holy crap!! If .22 caliber is so weak, then why do the liberally biased media always have stories about people getting killed by a .22 caliber pistol? Why are there even .22LR rifles?

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/VIIE8.html

If you copy and paste the above URL, then you'll find a list of the bullet weights, muzzle velocity and kinetic energy of most common ammunition. Those numbers are the result of the weight and shape of the projectile, the amount and type of powder in the cartridge and barrel length. A .22LR fired in a handgun will not develop as much velocity as if it was fired in a rifle, as the expanding gas doesn't have enough time to push the round down the barrel to impart the maximum velocity.

.22 short and .22 long are not good for much except target practice. .22 LR shot in rifles are usually more than enough for small game up to around 100 yards. A person shot in a vital organ at that range with a .22LR fired by a rifle is definitely in a world of hurt. .22 LR "Stinger" with hollow point projectiles can do considerable damage, likewise with the "Yellow Jackets" and "Vipers". Compare the numbers with the .25 cal, which is a centerfire round. Never waste your money on a .25 cal (semi)automatic handgun. The main virtue of small caliber handguns are small size, hence concealability, especially if you're in a knife fight.

If you feel the need for something bigger, then I would recommend .357 Magnum for a revolver, as you can fire .38 cal ammo in them, but not vice versa. Revolvers are more reliable than auto handguns, but autos almost always have a greater ammunition capacity. If you like autos, I wouldn't look at anything smaller than 9mm. Many folks believe it's too weak. .45 ACP is well respected for its stopping power. There are many other good rounds, but the ones that I mentioned are the most common, and therefore, more easily found at retailers.

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

I saw a story about seven FBI agents back in 1986 or somewhere in the late '80s where they cornered TWO bank robbers armed with 5.56x45mm NATO-chambered Ruger Mini-14s. Five had weak .38 special S&W revolvers and two with Beretta 92FS and one with both a .38 and a shotgun. They fired many shots at the two bank robbers who were not wearing Kevlar vests but the weak .38 special rounds just pissed the guys off. All FBI agents got wounded, the one with a shotgun got hit in the hand and the two with Berrettas get killed because all their ammo was in the trunk and they were caught out of ammo in the chamber and the two guys calmly returns to their car. One .38 slug hit one of the robbers in the neck, paralyzing them while the other guy gets constantly hit in the chest but he still squeezes out rounds from his deadly Mini-14. The agent wounded in the arm with shotgun fired it with one hand, always missing. When the shotgun was empty, he took out his .38 revolver and he had to walk up to the car and emptied his revolver to finally kill both of them.

These two guys were big and they took multiple shots in the chest with .38 special slugs and it just seemed to pissed them off. This shows the pathetic stopping power of .38 special or lower and these weak-ass revolvers cost the lives of two FBI agents, ironically the ones with the 9mm Berrettas. In my liberal socialist hometown of Santa Cruz, many cops here still used .38 S&W revolvers but fortunately on a field trip my class visited the local police station, the cop who was my class' tour guide of the then new police station (2000) had a sick HK Mark-23 .45 ACP pistol and showed it to us (not passing it around of course.) You can see my animosity toward low-caliber guns but I just love the power of weapons like the Desert Eagle series, Kalashnikov series, M-16 series and many other famous guns.

[Inyo-Mono]

Ya, like the reporter earlier this year who wrote about a man who shot two people with a replica of an 1862 Colt cap-n-ball revolver as though it was a machine gun: "...the six shooter can be fired six times without reloading!"

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

I saw a story about seven FBI agents back in 1986 or somewhere in the late '80s

My mistake. I was not even born yet in 1986. What I meant was that I heard of this incident that happened in 1986, a year before I was born by the way.

[dogbrain]

The .38 was the reason Browning developed the M1911.

After the incident you refer to, I believe the FBI chose a S&W .40 semi-auto for their standard issue.

Still, wouldn't want to have to look down a .38, or even a .22.

As someone has pointed out, bullet placement may be crucial, but would you really want to take the chance?

As far as the 9mm is concerned, I feel confident enough when carrying my HKP7.
Also, training and mindset should not to be ignored.

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

Ya, like the reporter earlier this year who wrote about a man who shot two people with a replica of an 1862 Colt cap-n-ball revolver as though it was a machine gun: "...the six shooter can be fired six times without reloading!"

That's pretty retarded since even a double-action revolver can't be fired at a rate of a semi-auto and it definitely doesn't sound like a machine gun when a semi auto is fired. Liberals are absolute morons who demonize any kind of gun. How nausiating.

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

I'd definitely love to own and fire a Colt M1911A1. I know the Berretta M9 has a larger capacity why why did it replace the much more powerful Colt .45 in the US Army?