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L. Ron Hubbard has better lobbyists than God
TownHall.com ^ | Wednesday, April 7, 2004 | by Ben Shapiro

Posted on 04/06/2004 10:14:06 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: JohnHuang2; fortunecookie; martin_fierro
No matter how many times I read this, I can't help but laugh hysterically:

"Over 75 million years ago, in a universe far, far away, evil alien overlord Xenu captured all the rebel souls by calling them in for tax auditing and, after injecting them with a mixture of glycol and alcohol, they were transported in B-1 bombers to earth and flung into volcanoes. Then the volcanoes were exploded with neutron bombs. The souls of these immolated aliens, called body thetans (thetan is L. Ron's word for souls), now cling to us like nasty body lice, through reincarnation after reincarnation, and can only be removed through hours of auditing at a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars."

61 posted on 04/07/2004 10:15:39 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski
You do know that after hearing the BIG SECRET about OTIII, you're supposed to get pneumonia and drop dead don't you? Hmmmm????
62 posted on 04/07/2004 10:18:45 AM PDT by null and void (John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
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"Over 75 million years ago, in a universe far, far away, evil alien overlord Xenu captured all the rebel souls by calling them in for tax auditing and, after injecting them with a mixture of glycol and alcohol, they were transported in B-1 bombers to earth and flung into volcanoes. Then the volcanoes were exploded with neutron bombs. The souls of these immolated aliens, called body thetans (thetan is L. Ron's word for souls), now cling to us like nasty body lice, through reincarnation after reincarnation, and can only be removed through hours of auditing at a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars."
IRS auditors turned into thetan lice which clings to tax payers?

This Hubbard fellow had a sense of humor.

63 posted on 04/07/2004 10:24:19 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: null and void
Yes, I've heard. But then I think the clams were lying, squick squick squick.
64 posted on 04/07/2004 10:24:51 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: D-fendr
Say [thetan] without the lisp and get a clue what Ron practiced in his earlier years...

I think Hubbard was a prankster surprised at the gullibility of his followers.

65 posted on 04/07/2004 10:30:30 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Petronski
Then I suppose there's no point in posting the obligatory "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!"
66 posted on 04/07/2004 10:30:50 AM PDT by null and void (John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
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67 posted on 04/07/2004 10:34:48 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Fledermaus
A religion? Lol...two words: BattleStar Earth!

I think you mean BattleFIELD Earth.

Although there's an even chance you mean Battlestar Galactica.
68 posted on 04/07/2004 10:39:04 AM PDT by Xenalyte (in memory of James Edward Peck, my grandfather, who passed on 3/23/04)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
Come to think of it, EST is in this game too.

I've been to Lifespring seminars, which according to some people is "EST lite." I would describe it as bootcamp for yuppies with a New Agey theme.

If EST was indeed similar to Lifespring, then the major difference between EST and Scientology was that the EST gurus would leave you alone after the seminar was over and the recruit had enough. Scientologists are more like thetan lice.

69 posted on 04/07/2004 10:40:06 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: null and void
Martin Gardener's 1957 book "Fads and Fallicies in the Name of Science" (Dover) has some interesting things to say about "Dianetics" among other things.
70 posted on 04/07/2004 10:44:31 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: null and void
That's a Pippala tree according Tibetan tradition. Had he sat under an apple tree, he might have acquired gravitas rather than enlightment.
71 posted on 04/07/2004 10:48:00 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Had he sat under an apple tree, he might have acquired gravitas rather than enlightment.

And that is how Newton discovered gravitas.

72 posted on 04/07/2004 10:57:18 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Hey John F'in. Kerry, why the long face?)
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To: null and void
TM just doesn't make sense to me from what little I know. Never heard of Thought Field Therapy.

I did TM years ago, promise was that if you do the meditation, and grow in the organization, retreats, become a trainer... you will develop your good habits, and lose your bad hapits. This is basically due to bad vibes (dislocations?) in the brain that were created by past stress. Meditation allows the mind to unlock and let go of the stress. The mind becomes clear, less cluttered, and you get better at everything. TM works its majic over a long period, and yoga is thrown in and organic vegitarian food. Eventually you learn that your mantra is really the name of a Hindu Diety.

Now my sister has discovered TFT. Same idea as TM, that the mind has impediments developed by past events. But Thought Field Therapy works fast, a few minutes is all it takes. TFT monitors heart rate variation (like auditing?) and taps on shrockras with special sequences and in a few minutes the stress is forgotton. Claim is people are so cured that they can't remember what was wrong a few minutes ago. (Some even claim no cure was done, since they had nothing wrong when finished. For this reason, some practicioners use video tape to show that they did help their patients.) The problem with TFT is that after you decide this is the greatest thing since sliced bread, you want to be a trainer, the fee is $100k. (I hope and have counseled my sister not to become a trainer.)

The bottom line is that I believe there is something to the idea that some people can benefit from mental unlocking techniques. (calming) but the methods seem to fall into the hands of people who want to have lots of money when all is said and done. Also these techniques work well in people who would also benefit from drug therapies like Prozak, Scientology has led the anti Prozak movement because they are competing, I.E. people who benefit from Prozak are also good candidates for Scientology (or TM or TFT) My opinion anyway.

73 posted on 04/07/2004 11:04:33 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: george wythe
If EST was indeed similar to Lifespring, then the major difference between EST and Scientology was that the EST gurus would leave you alone after the seminar was over and the recruit had enough. Scientologists are more like thetan lice.

LOL! Yeah. It takes about a decade to get off the mailing list. There is even one case where the guy died, and this was dutifully reported to the church. A letter came back asking for his forwarding address...

74 posted on 04/07/2004 1:12:33 PM PDT by null and void (John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
*groan*
75 posted on 04/07/2004 1:13:07 PM PDT by null and void (John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
I.E. people who benefit from Prozak are also good candidates for Scientology (or TM or TFT) My opinion anyway.

Ummmmm, is this a bad time to mention that I'm taking Paxil?...

76 posted on 04/07/2004 1:15:23 PM PDT by null and void (John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
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To: null and void
Ummmmm, is this a bad time to mention that I'm taking Paxil?...

Not at all, my wife is on Prozak, and is a new person since she started 15 years ago. I think if neurotransmitters are low, you are better to fix it with drugs than these other treatments we have discussed. The main reason I brought it up is that people who abruptly stop taking these drugs sometimes have episodes that make headlines. Scientology has jumpped on these events and tried to get the drugs banned or feared. There has to be a reason why $cientology wants these people off their therapies, its so that they might find help in auditing.

77 posted on 04/07/2004 2:03:46 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: JohnHuang2; null and void; OutInTheColdAgain; agitator; Conservative4Ever
For some real "inside the loop" insight into Scientology, you might peruse the free online book linked below; Excalibur Revisited. A search at Google will pull up numerous HTML versions and at least one PDF version.

HTML version here.

PDF version here.

Here's an illustrative excerpt:

Of the over twenty-five million words of philosophical, technical, theoretical and religious speculation covered under various Scientology and Dianetic and Hubbard copyrights, less than one-half of a percent have any bearing or proximity to workable application of that subject. Less than 125,000 words of it are true. Approximately one-half of that quantity of information is true, with another half being dangerously close. Whether intentional, or by random accident, the bulk of this text relates to outlining the true quarter of this one percent and correcting the other quarter of that one-half percent.

The 25 million words within the Scientology, Dianetic and Hubbard writings covered all possible bases, viewpoints and philosophical possibilities available of all recorded, and some secret cultures in the East and West. There are earlier source documents for every idea and viewpoint covered under those copyrights. Thus, the clarification's, codification and correction of this summary of planet Earth's philosophical data base for the quarter of one percent of that which was correct, is a logical step in the evolution and progress of science.

There is little to no evidence to support the idea that the 1/4% was intentionally placed, and the other 99 3/4% were accidentally published against his will and better judgement. There is overwhelming evidence that he and his "group" think it is all true and are so copyright crazed as to copyright all incoming ideas in letters which may be true. His directions to his "Guardian's staff" and I quote:

"When in doubt, copyright it."

Where copyrights abridge, restrict and diminsh freedom of speech, inverstigation, publication and interchange of ideas, they are of no service to men or society. By copyrighting the supposed wisdom of all societies and barbarism, an attempt to lock up and control philosophical truth of a religious nature, no ill has yet been done. However, enforcement of said copyrights at a future date would constitute violations of his stated creed, his churches' creed, the U.S. Constitution and the obvious fact of life that no man has a right to copyright truth. One can copyright his intrpretation, description, explanation or illustration of truth, but no one can copyright truth itself. That is impossible, for truth not only belongs, but exists in all people.

As the net effect of too many laws is no law at all, the net effect of Scientology, Dianetic and Hubbard writings is that nobody alive, including Hubbard, can find extractable, logical, heuristic, proven, demonstrable, relevant, workable, digestable, synergistic whole technology in all of that writing. Parts (as in the 1/4%) do, but the whole does not. The 99 3/4% is in direct contradiction to the 1/4%. So, the net result is controversy and mysticism instead of science and a factual, demonstable truth.

Alexander Pope said a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Little parts of knowledge that work are more dangerous. Whole truth is safe; with partial truth the desire to contribute occurs and hope is created. With whole truth, judgement, intelligence and application occur. In actual expperiment, you will probably find about the same ratio (1/4% truth and 99 3/4% lies) in practically any person, book or newspaper you pick up.

Prologue

An authority is not a concept I care for, in that a person could actually and really be an authority in an area and that would be of no use, if no one accepted it to be so, Authority is a very -inside the game point of view, and probably a very destructive one towards the natural development of others creating their own knowing, because they end up learning from an authority, instead of just knowing. By owning the authority's knowing, instead of their own, it ends up owning them, and they cannot DO or APPLY from the owned knowingness of another beyond 5% of their capability. If they were to create their knowing they can then DO and APPLY. What L. Ron Hubbard has done to himself and other people, in addition to the source of the material he has published, is defined in this paragraph.

Unfortunately, there is a lot of authority-oriented, thinking in people and education's, so I will briefly address the subject. A real authority would be one who could do in an area, that is, produce results. There are false authorities and real ones. The determination is who can do, Each person is probably the ultimate authority on their own personal experience I have counselled over a dozen individuals to states of personal experience, objective and subjective, far beyond anything mentioned in this or any other book. No one else has done that.

As far as the subject of Scientology goes, I was trained and certified on all available courses in said subject, semi-annually, 1964 - 1975, served as Pastor, Chaplain, Sunday Services Minister, Counsellor, Auditor and held various executive and technical positions (such as Director of Case Review at St. Hill, Public Executive Secretary in Washington, D.C.).

As far as sanctioned processing, I received all available counselling. In private counselling, I received all processes on all tapes, books and bulletins and some of the material out of Hubbard's private safe. To my knowledge, no one else has done that.

Private study included all copyrighted and some uncopyrighted tapes, bulletins and material from various safes prior to the burning of the master files. There were 4 1/2 feet of technical bulletins and 13 feet of policy letters. About 1 1/2 feet of each remain in the "Tech Volumes" and OEC Volumes, leaving a survival of less than half of each. To my knowledge, no one else has done such a study.

In the field of executive application, less than a dozen others have raised production 30 times in thirty days.

So, as a student, staff member, executive, and practitioner there is no one alive who has had comparable personal experience or performance, In fact, the number of people who have done over 10,000 hours of auditing (counselling) are quite few (less than 2 dozen), In summary, for the authority-minded, I perhaps have adequate credentials to speak on the subject.

The true statistic of the Scientology churches was how many practising field auditors were operating in their area (one of the torched Policy Letters). It became apparent by 1970, that because of my unique position and responsibilities in helping individuals and mankind, that I could accomplish more in that direction than all the Churches combined, with ease, on weekends.

That authority and performance have remained untarnished, in spite of much foolishness, that it would be in bad taste to detail here.

My prior actions, training and experience I would advise you against even considering. Whether I speak with authority, that is, whether I speak the truth, is up to you the reader. You already know the truth. You just aren't up to having the facility to directly attain it, at will. Any dog knows truth. It is a recognizable commodity.

Authority is not material, relevant or important except to those who believe in such things. In most cases, "authority" is an element of one of the prominent cults in our country's respectability. As art was removed as a function for the design of the culture's future, and replaced with institutionalised reinforcement of accepting the maddening paradoxes of Modernity, so was Legitimacy replaced about a 100 years ago with Respectability.

If you are unaware of, or subscribe to, this scam, I would suggest you go to a college bookstore and pick up a graduate text on the History of American Thought 1865 - 1965. You can learn about Straus Blue Danube Waltz, Buicks, fried chicken after church and the rest of the artificial contrivances of this carefully superficial imported education and culture, 80% of which came from Germany The American Black -is- a truer manifestation of what this country is all about, for he had no German exposure. I would rather you get this area clarified from a graduate text than from me. I wouldn't want the responsibility of rattling the tea cups, staining the Reader's Digest and dissuading you from what you mistakenly consider pleasurable familiarities.

There are a number of reasons, the majority of which are personal, which have led to my reading the Akashic Record and writing this book. If you are brave, patient and tenacious enough to endure reading the book all the way through, my personal reasons will become obvious to you, as personal reasons for yourself. Most probably it will become obvious why the book ended up in your possession, regardless of the circumstances that led to that event.

Life speaks kindly when it meets and parts, only death and ignorance can be unkind, If you do not find your own truths herein, then I suspect we might say the reading was one more of an almost endless chain of historical examples of misduplication. Often a person mistakenly perceives parts instead of wholes, in observing truth, and in doing so, further enslaves himself to the minds of others.

My overall purpose is to make available, in a clear, concise, and usable form, all the relevant truth that people do not know and would be much better off knowing.

Accepting misery as "normal" and understanding as "abnormal" is a widespread insanity. It is, at the least, the wrong way to live.

The traditional and historical religious promise that one can go beyond craven stupidity on up to a higher state of awareness and living by understanding certain truths has essentially been rejected in recent times as being an unfulfillable promise. There has been so much betrayal after trust on this line, that religion itself has come to be considered a manipulative, escapist, faithful and confusing endeavour.

That Science (which is a religion) or Religion "did not work", "was incomplete", "was confusing", etc. seems to be the common, superficial objections to either belief form. This book, hopefully, will put these objections to bed. If these were valid objections, then this book alone (and the application of it) would bring man and religion (not organised religion) back to being alive, well and in harmony.

The real underlying objection toward digesting and applying wisdom may not be its present unavailability in whole and digestible form. The real objections could be the condition of the individual, in other words; gutlessness, sleepiness, laziness, drug addiction, childishness, degradation, illiteracy, ignorance, fixed attitudes. fatalism, unawareness, selfishness, greed, irresponsibility, physical illness, mental illness, spiritual illness, emotionalism, materialism, mentalism, bodyism, insanity, bad-idea addiction, low acceptance level, low self-esteem, low peer-recognition, beliefs, identifications with roles, identifications with bodies, association with filth, contamination of individual space or any of the other "normal" inbred, fine character attributes that individuals have adopted as societal parity lines. Societies have a bad habit of destroying not only the existence of individuals, but the memories that people ever existed in the past at all.

Two other hidden objections to having truth exist (l) the secret awareness that the individual is all right but everyone else is nuts, and (2) the secret awareness that the individual is nuts and that everyone else is sane. Both of these ideas are completely illogical and untrue. Unfortunately, I have not met more than one man per ten thousand that did not firmly believe one of these two oversimplifications. Perhaps, everyone is all right and nuts, that it is an and not an or proposition. The ramifications of that possibility are unpleasant in the contemplation of futures, so you will rarely find the concept suggested in philosophical circles and writings.

By holding oneself back from truth, thus living, thus growth, thus freedom, thus knowing, thus predictability, thus achievement, thus happiness, one can attain the state of misery. In this book we'll be going over the ways and means of erasing the barriers in the way on such a path, including the widespread 30 or so sad states aforementioned, as real objections to truth.

I am probably not a good or bad writer, nor is this a good or bad book, If you agree with all, some, or none of the book, well, welcome to you Your approvals, preferences, criticisms, feelings and suggestions are part of your self discovery, and probably a part of those 30 or so things aforementioned, The book covers the complete eradication of objections, all 30 of them, which have to come off people if they are to be set free and live truthfully.

If you have had the guts to read this far, you might as well read the whole text. I would not recommend reading a part of it for the sake of your own so-called well being.

If you read it all, you will have travelled across an ocean of understandings and misunderstandings, and survived the storms your enslavers have installed in you, and you will probably return to this moment of moments, and you will still be you What you consider yourself to be will have changed.

It was not my idea to write this account of truth. I decided to do so, but it was not my idea. Out of reluctance, I have discharged the obligation of this privileged service.

So, writing all this down, for perhaps the l0,000th time, is not a labour of love, it is an "audit trail" within the accounts of each of you on how one of you got free.


78 posted on 04/07/2004 3:38:29 PM PDT by handk (Shop at Costington's! The thing downtown that is open!)
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To: handk
I have the dead tree edition...
79 posted on 04/07/2004 6:03:31 PM PDT by null and void (John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
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To: Xenalyte
ROFL...okay, BattleFIELD...you knew what I was talking about. I don't think BattleStar Galactica was a Scientology project. It was just bad!
80 posted on 04/07/2004 10:47:08 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Ðíé F£éðérmáú§ ^;;^ says, "Isn't it amazing idiots think they have all the solutions?")
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