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Budget cars en route from China
Houston Chronicle ^ | May 16, 2004 | DAVID KAPLAN

Posted on 05/16/2004 8:03:00 AM PDT by Dog Gone

Their names are Solo, Deer, Leopard, Safe and Sing, and thousands of them are on a boat headed this way.

U.S. car buyers will soon have a new option: very-low-priced Chinese cars, trucks and SUVs.

Four Houston partners will be exclusive dealers for two major manufacturers of Chinese cars for the entire state of Texas, with the first dealership scheduled to open in the city this summer.

China Motors of Texas will import automobiles made by Geely and trucks and SUVs made by Great Wall, China's leading manufacturer of such vehicles.

Cars will sell in the range of $7,000 to $11,000.

The manufacturers and dealers are hoping Americans will embrace these new import brands like they did the Toyota — as opposed to, say, the Yugo, a Yugoslavian import that came to the United States in 1985 with high hopes but flopped so badly it became the butt of jokes.

Auto industry observers say that any consumer love affair with these Chinese products will not develop overnight, no matter how good the vehicles are.

But Ken Rams, CEO of China Motors of Texas, is optimistic.

"We feel the timing is perfect for this," he said.

"Most of the other manufacturers have abandoned the low, entry level of the price market," said Rams, noting: "Chinese car makers are committed to becoming a world force."

Geely and Great Wall are privately owned companies in mainland China.

There will be 24 other China Motors dealers in 13 states.

Rams gave some speculation on pricing. The Geely sports sedan, called Solo, will cost $10,888 fully equipped with leather seats, power windows, a remote control entry system, CD player and wood trim. A fully-equipped Solo sedan is $8,888.

Some pickup trucks sell for $7,900, and subcompacts cost $6,900. The prices for the SUVs have not been announced.

Geely offers 3-cylinder and 4-cylinder engines, made in China, as well as a V-6.

Like a charming immigrant still learning the culture, the Web site for Geely USA offers some delightful car descriptions.

For example, it notes that the Solo gives its drivers a special feeling, "making you relaxed and happy. Uneasy no! Lost, no! Fashionable life, and fashionable car!"

As for the Geely sports car, the Leopard: "The infinite vital force and the excellent driving feeling heats up your endless enthusiasm in your blood vessels."

Geely's U.S. operation is so new that the English version of the company's Web site still identifies the cars by their Chinese names: The Leopard is called the "Beauty Leopard," and the Solo goes by "Merrie" and "Haoging."

How enthusiastic will Americans be for these Chinese vehicles?

"There have been many successful foreign car arrivals in the U.S., but we also remember the Yugo," said Paul Taylor, chief economist for the National Automobile Dealers Association.

The ability to inspire confidence in the durability of the vehicle and the availability of service networks are the keys to winning acceptance among American consumers, Taylor said.

"The Koreans) dealt with it by giving very long-term warranties and low pricing," he said.

Low-priced Korean vehicles like Kia and Hyundai compete mostly with used cars, Taylor noted.

China Motors vehicles should appeal to consumers who want a new car and warranty at "a low, low price," said Brian Moody, road-test editor at Edmunds.com, a Web site for car buyers and sellers.

The Chinese vehicles won't be competing with Japanese products because manufacturers like Toyota and Honda have moved up-market: "The Civic and Corolla were once bargain-basement priced, but they're not cheap anymore," Moody said.

"Now it's Kias, Hyundais and the Dodge Neon that are among the very inexpensive products. That should be where the turf war is with the Chinese cars."

Winning over car buyers will be an uphill battle for China Motors, Moody said.

Their vehicles may be first-rate, he said, but they'll be entering a U.S. market where they're unproven, and car buying is greatly based on reputation.

"Just ask people at Kia. The Kia Optima is a great value," Moody said, "but the public's perception of the car lags far behind the actual quality of the product."

China Motors cars and trucks are made in China at new plants using state of the art technology, Rams said.

All vehicles come with a free 36-month or 36,000-mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. For $495 the buyer can get 36 more months, Rams said.

China Motors will have a service department, and any auto shop that repairs Japanese cars will be able to fix Chinese vehicles, said China Motors partner Ted Jonick.

After opening the Houston dealership, most likely near The Woodlands, the partners plan to open a San Antonio operation, followed by the simultaneous openings of two more Houston dealerships and one Dallas showroom.

Rams is a 42-year veteran of the car business. His Ford and Dodge dealerships were in California and Michigan.

In 1985, he gave up cars for greeting card distribution and consulting.

Over the past few years he'd been wanting to get back into the auto trade but said he could not find anything that had significant potential.

Through the Internet he learned that Geely and Great Wall were headed this way, and he contacted the distributor.

His other two partners are Randy Fernandez and Bill Kesler.

David Shelburg, 75, is an executive the North American division of China Motors, based in Phoenix. His son David Shelburg Jr. is president of the company.

The elder Shelburg was previously a dealer for American Motors, and going back much further, the Kaiser. He also helped bring the Subaru to the United States.

Shelburg has visited the Great Wall and Geely factories, and he noted that at the plants, only women do fitting and finishing work on interiors because in China, he said, it is believed that women are more precise than men.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: auto; cars; china; trade
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To: Larry Lucido

ROFL, that is truly horrid.


41 posted on 05/16/2004 9:21:14 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Incorrigible
#6

I'd need to buy one for each foot!

42 posted on 05/16/2004 9:21:57 AM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: neutrino

When you think you are buying an American-made car, you are not. Most cars made in the US have a large number of parts made elsewhere, including Commie China. I saw a list of such parts in a car dealership showing all the brands and the high percentage of foreign-made parts in each model and all US manufacturers were on the list.


43 posted on 05/16/2004 9:22:13 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus (4)
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To: Paulus Invictus

Even Harley is doing this. And then when the quality suffers (because using the cheapo china stuff) people assumed it suffered because made in america.


44 posted on 05/16/2004 9:23:38 AM PDT by PersonalLiberties (...)
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To: Uncle George

They also come with a spare bicycle.


45 posted on 05/16/2004 9:26:21 AM PDT by Iberian
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To: Dog Gone
Geely and Great Wall are privately owned companies in mainland China

LOL!

Like a charming immigrant still learning the culture, the Web site for Geely USA offers some delightful car descriptions.

That's just so touching leftist.

46 posted on 05/16/2004 9:27:01 AM PDT by lewislynn (Who made you, the casual observer, the expert?)
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To: Tax Government

yup!


47 posted on 05/16/2004 9:28:25 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: fightu4it
Be sure and check the trunk for illegals!

No problem if you get the Trunk Monkey Option!

48 posted on 05/16/2004 9:31:46 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
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To: Dog Gone
This is how the Japanese entered the American car market. Remember the Japanese cars of the late '70s? Small, junky, rust prone little cars -- but great for poor people who couldn't pay much for a car. As time when on, the Japanese made those cars better and better -- and we all know how THAT worked out.

The PRC is now entering the game the same way. In 10 years they will probably be making top of the line cars for the American market. They are going to eat our lunch and use our business processes, tools, and technology to do it.

49 posted on 05/16/2004 9:35:36 AM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: Dog Gone
They have to meet US safety standards in order to be sold here, so that's not an issue. I have no idea about the quality.

Wanna bet the safety and environmental rules are relaxed?

I can see DiFi pushing relaxing the Kalistan air pollution requirements so he hubby's commie chines bidiness connections are kept happy...

50 posted on 05/16/2004 9:36:31 AM PDT by null and void (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: eno_

Amen! Screw the unions. They're American sellouts.


51 posted on 05/16/2004 9:39:59 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: stboz
Sooner than you think. WalMArt is already working to set up used car dealer "points of sale" on their parking lots around the country

They and others have been doing that here in California for yrs...not just used cars but RV's too.

52 posted on 05/16/2004 9:40:01 AM PDT by lewislynn (Who made you, the casual observer, the expert?)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
I hope they last longer than the tools they make. Their metal is soft.

perhaps a metallurgist lurks, and can shed more light than i can, but im pretty sure that the alloys used in jap engines (toy & honda at least) are superior, and are the main contributor to those models' well known reliability. detroit has pretty much caught up with the design....they had to....but they're still using poorer, lesser quality materials. (must be all the labor, enviro, work comp, & legal costs)

design is one thing, wonder where in the spectrum the commiemobiles' alloys are.

53 posted on 05/16/2004 9:40:08 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4 (i like how "metallurgist lurks" sounds, dont you?)
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To: fightu4it
Yes, planned obsolescence.

It's my contention that corporate bean counters and engineers have more to do with the perception that our cars are of a quality inferior to that of Japanese vehicles than union autoworkers do.

IMO, most American cars are deliberately designed to start falling apart at a time certain. They would fall apart even if they were being assembled by Japanese autoworkers.

Do you agree or disagree?

54 posted on 05/16/2004 9:41:41 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom

I know planned obs used to be a real thing. I learned about this in highschool history class. Like appliances, vaccums, etc. used to last forever. So, no repeat business. Then the companies caught on and . . .

But I think with cars its a combo of using the cheapest parts they can get by with.


55 posted on 05/16/2004 9:45:22 AM PDT by PersonalLiberties (...)
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To: Dog Gone
the government still rules with an iron fist and in partnership with private enterprise

I know you are talking about China. But in a lot of ways, this is true in the US, maybe to a lesser degree, or maybe not. I think the corporate tax rate exceeds 30 percent which makes our govt. a "partner" too.

56 posted on 05/16/2004 9:45:36 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
I own a mexican buick

Did it come equipped with the Mexican flag hanging off the rear-view mirror?

Bada Bing!!!

57 posted on 05/16/2004 9:47:27 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: staytrue

30% a partner or an albatros :-)


58 posted on 05/16/2004 9:47:42 AM PDT by PersonalLiberties (...)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Their metal is soft.

A couple of years ago I was cussing some screws I was using because the head was stripping on every one of them. Yep, made in China. If they don't use better quality hardware on theirs cars they will fall apart.

If their first run of cars is junk they won't get a second chance to make a first impression.

59 posted on 05/16/2004 9:48:29 AM PDT by Flyer (CAUTION! People May Be Dumber Than They Appear In The Forum)
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To: dark_lord
In 10 years they will probably be making top of the line cars for the American market.

You can look back before the Japanese cars came here and find quality made Japanese products like camera's for example...Can you point out ONE "top of the line" quality made Chinese product made today?

60 posted on 05/16/2004 9:49:55 AM PDT by lewislynn (Who made you, the casual observer, the expert?)
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