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Breaking: John Kerry Honored by Vietnamese Communists
Vietnam Veterans for the Truth via WinterSoldier.com ^ | May 31, 2004 | Interesting Times

Posted on 05/31/2004 3:50:49 PM PDT by Interesting Times

May 31, 2004 -- **BREAKING** Dr. Jerry Corsi and Jeff Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth report that John Kerry's photograph is featured in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City -- a clear indication of the value the Vietnamese communists place on Kerry's support of their efforts during the Vietnam War. The photograph was received in response to a general request last week for information documenting Kerry’s activities on behalf of the enemy (May 27 below). See Kerry Honored by Vietnamese Communists in Special Features for the complete story.

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To: cincy29
My guess is that more than 65% of the country will never even know about this.

Okay... do the research and let us know.

51 posted on 05/31/2004 4:20:43 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Miss Marple
"This guy must NOT win the election!"


52 posted on 05/31/2004 4:21:05 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: Interesting Times; Timesink; *CCRM; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

Well John Kerry has always claimed to be a war hero:

**BREAKING** Dr. Jerry Corsi and Jeff Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth report that John Kerry's photograph is featured in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City -- a clear indication of the value the Vietnamese communists place on Kerry's support of their efforts during the Vietnam War. The photograph was received in response to a general request last week for information documenting Kerry's activities on behalf of the enemy (May 27 below).

53 posted on 05/31/2004 4:21:14 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Shows how much the party has changed! RFK and JFK would both be conservative today.


54 posted on 05/31/2004 4:21:37 PM PDT by ladyinred (The leftist media is the enemy within.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Excellent work, Tonkin!!


55 posted on 05/31/2004 4:21:39 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: commish

The photograph that elected hitlery?


56 posted on 05/31/2004 4:21:50 PM PDT by norton
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To: commish
Will this be known as 'the photograph that sank a candidacy"?

I sure wish "Fair and Balanced" would bring this out! I will fall off my chair, that's for sure.

57 posted on 05/31/2004 4:22:32 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: All

58 posted on 05/31/2004 4:24:05 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
I thought he
entertained them.


59 posted on 05/31/2004 4:25:05 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Was sciencediet till I found the solution)
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To: weegee
**BREAKING** Dr. Jerry Corsi and Jeff Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth report that John Kerry's photograph is featured in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City -- a clear indication of the value the Vietnamese communists place on Kerry's support of their efforts during the Vietnam War. The photograph was received in response to a general request last week for information documenting Kerry's activities on behalf of the enemy (May 27 below).

Why would they bring this out now? Who's side brought this out?

This could be a miracle!

60 posted on 05/31/2004 4:26:13 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: Lady Jag

Nice pic!


61 posted on 05/31/2004 4:26:28 PM PDT by YankeeMagic
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To: Interesting Times; All

Kerry's Soviet Rhetoric



February 26, 2004
The Vietnam-era antiwar movement got its spin from the Kremlin.



Ion Mihai Pacepa was acting chief of Romania's espionage service and national-security adviser to the country's president. He is the highest-ranking intelligence officer ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc.



By Ion Mihai Pacepa

Part of Senator John Kerry's appeal to a certain segment of Americans is his Vietnam-veteran status coupled with his antiwar activism during that period. On April 12, 1971, Kerry told the U.S. Congress that American soldiers claimed to him that they had, "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned on the power, cut off limbs, blew up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

The exact sources of that assertion should be tracked down. Kerry also ought to be asked who, exactly, told him any such thing, and what it was, exactly, that they said they did in Vietnam. Statutes of limitation now protect these individuals from prosecution for any such admissions. Or did Senator Kerry merely hear allegations of that sort as hearsay bandied about by members of antiwar groups (much of which has since been discredited)?

To me, this assertion sounds exactly like the disinformation line that the Soviets were sowing worldwide throughout the Vietnam era. KGB priority number one at that time was to damage American power, judgment, and credibility. One of its favorite tools was the fabrication of such evidence as photographs and "news reports" about invented American war atrocities. These tales were purveyed in KGB-operated magazines that would then flack them to reputable news organizations. Often enough, they would be picked up. News organizations are notoriously sloppy about verifying their sources. All in all, it was amazingly easy for Soviet-bloc spy organizations to fake many such reports and spread them around the free world.

As a spy chief and a general in the former Soviet satellite of Romania, I produced the very same vitriol Kerry repeated to the U.S. Congress almost word for word and planted it in leftist movements throughout Europe. KGB chairman Yuri Andropov managed our anti-Vietnam War operation. He often bragged about having damaged the U.S. foreign-policy consensus, poisoned domestic debate in the U.S., and built a credibility gap between America and European public opinion through our disinformation operations. Vietnam was, he once told me, "our most significant success."

The KGB organized a vitriolic conference in Stockholm to condemn America's aggression, on March 8, 1965, as the first American troops arrived in south Vietnam. On Andropov's orders, one of the KGB's paid agents, Romesh Chandra, the chairman of the KGB-financed World Peace Council, created the Stockholm Conference on Vietnam as a permanent international organization to aid or to conduct operations to help Americans dodge the draft or defect, to demoralize its army with anti-American propaganda, to conduct protests, demonstrations, and boycotts, and to sanction anyone connected with the war. It was staffed by Soviet-bloc undercover intelligence officers and received about $15 million annually from the Communist Party's international department - on top of the WPC's $50 million a year, all delivered in laundered cash dollars. Both groups had Soviet-style secretariats to manage their general activities, Soviet-style working committees to conduct their day-to-day operations, and Soviet-style bureaucratic paperwork. The quote from Senator Kerry is unmistakable Soviet-style sloganeering from this period. I believe it is very like a direct quote from one of these organizations' propaganda sheets.

The KGB campaign to assault the U.S. and Europe by means of disinformation was more than just a few Cold War dirty tricks. The whole foreign policy of the Soviet-bloc states, indeed its whole economic and military might, revolved around the larger Soviet objective of destroying America from within through the use of lies. The Soviets saw disinformation as a vital tool in the dialectical advance of world Communism.

The Stockholm conference held annual international meetings up to 1972. In its five years of existence it created thousands of "documentary" materials printed in all the major Western languages describing the "abominable crimes" committed by American soldiers against civilians in Vietnam, along with counterfeited pictures. All these materials were manufactured by the KGB's disinformation department. I would print up these materials in hundreds of thousands of copies each. The Romanian DIE (Ceausescu's secret police) was tasked to distribute these KGB-concocted "incriminating documents" all over Western Europe. And ordinary people often bought it hook, line, and sinker. "Even Attila the Hun looks like an angel when compared to these Americans," a West German businessman reprovingly told me after reading one such report.

The Italian, Greek, and Spanish Communist parties serviced by Bucharest were much affected by this material and their activists regularly distributed translations. They also handed them out to the participants at anti-American demonstrations around the world.

Many "Ban-the-Bomb" and anti-nuclear movements were KGB-funded operations, too. I can no longer look at a petition for world peace or other supposedly noble cause, particularly of the anti-American variety, without thinking to myself, "KGB." In 1978, when I broke with Communism, my DIE was propagating the line that Washington's adventure in Vietnam had wasted over $200 trillion. This waste, we warned darkly, would soon generate European inflation, recession, and unemployment.

As far as I'm concerned, the KGB gave birth to the antiwar movement in America. In 1976, Andropov gave my own Romanian DIE credit for helping his KGB do so.

Leftist intellectuals in America now look to Europe - steeped for years in anti-American propaganda from the Soviet Union - for "a sane and frank European criticism of the Bush administration's war policy." Indeed, anti-Americanism in Europe today is almost as ferocious as it was during Vietnam. France and Germany insist we are torturing the al Qaeda prisoners held at Guantanamo Base. The Mirror, a British newspaper, is confident that President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair were "killing innocents in Afghanistan." The Paris daily Le Monde put Jean Baudrillard on its front page asserting that "the Judeo-Christian West, led by America, not only provoked the [September 11] terrorist attacks, it actually desired them."

In June 2002, a documentary film on "U.S. war crimes" in Afghanistan was shown in the German Bundestag by the crypto-Communist Party of Democratic Socialism (PDS). The film faithfully reincarnated the style of old Soviet-bloc "documentaries" demonizing the U.S. war in Vietnam. According to this 20-minute movie, American soldiers were involved in the torture and murder of some 3,000 Taliban prisoners in the region of Mazar-e-Sharif. One witness in the film even claimed he had seen an American soldier break the neck of one Afghan prisoner and pour acid on others.

During my last meeting with Andropov, he said, wisely, "now all we have to do is to keep the Vietnam-era anti-Americanism alive." Andropov was a shrewd judge of human nature. He understood that in the end our original involvement would be forgotten, and our insinuations would take on a life of their own. He knew well that it was just the way human nature worked.


http://www.hanoijohnkerry.com/sovietrhetoric.html


62 posted on 05/31/2004 4:26:51 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: Reagan Man

The closest meaning of POTUS for Kerry is "Patheticly Obnoxious Traitorously Useless Senator"


63 posted on 05/31/2004 4:27:15 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Petronski

"It should be printed on picket signs for use at his 'vet' events"

With the caption..."Vietnam War Hero...for Which Side?"


64 posted on 05/31/2004 4:27:32 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Disgusted bump!


65 posted on 05/31/2004 4:27:32 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Interesting Times

No surprise here. I'm sure Bubba Klinton has plaques and photos honoring him in Chinese govt. buildings. (Honoring him for what, you ask? Try a trillion dollar give-away in ballistic missile and nuclear weapons technology. Reference: the Cox Report.)


66 posted on 05/31/2004 4:28:23 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good taglines are taken...)
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To: Lady Jag

Now I know why FOX NEWS calls him a highly decorated Viet Nam vet.


67 posted on 05/31/2004 4:29:05 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: SheLion
John O'Neill will be breaking this story on Michael Savage at 7pm Eastern. The press releases go out tomorrow morning. Vietnam Veterans for the Truth wanted this story out on the Net tonight, on Memorial Day.

I've turned on Savage's show to hear this. I figured that like other shows it would just be another in a can (rebroadcast).

68 posted on 05/31/2004 4:30:09 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: SheLion

Hanoi John- Viet Cong War Hero.
John Kerry- Vietnam War Hero?
Recognized As Hero By BOTH Sides


69 posted on 05/31/2004 4:30:18 PM PDT by RobFromGa (There isn't always an easy path, but there is always a right path.)
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To: Interesting Times
Hanoi John pranced around a local (Portsmouth, VA) Memorial Day Parade, touting his heroic service, his chest full of medals, patriotism, his honorable service …

70 posted on 05/31/2004 4:30:28 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Interesting Times

Lots worse than the anti-war rallies.


71 posted on 05/31/2004 4:30:44 PM PDT by Zechariah11 (faith alone in Christ alone)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Maybe the media will finally call Hanoi Kerry a traitor

What you expect them to call one of their own that?

FoxNews maybe but the rest of the LAME STREAM MEDIA?

NEVER.

72 posted on 05/31/2004 4:31:02 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: weegee
I've turned on Savage's show to hear this. I figured that like other shows it would just be another in a can (rebroadcast).

Have you heard anything yet?

73 posted on 05/31/2004 4:31:59 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: R. Scott

Look at those eyes. He looks like he is on DRUGS.


74 posted on 05/31/2004 4:32:47 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the post!

And the heat keeps getting hotter...
Kerry may be toast by Labor Day.
Don't be surprised if Klintoon is waiting in the wings...

Viet Nam Veterans Against John Kerry
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com

Semper Fi,
Kelly


75 posted on 05/31/2004 4:33:13 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
No more "Senator" Kerry but rather Hanoi Kerry!

And hopefully no more newsreaders gushing “Senator John Kerry, decorated war hero”.

76 posted on 05/31/2004 4:34:29 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: kellynla

Did I hear something?

77 posted on 05/31/2004 4:34:47 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: YankeeMagic

Thanks, he's a fun subject.


78 posted on 05/31/2004 4:36:16 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Was sciencediet till I found the solution)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
anti-war demonstrators in the USA were giving aid, comfort and encouragement to Ho Chi Minh.

They're still encouraging the enemy today.

79 posted on 05/31/2004 4:36:45 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
anti-war demonstrators in the USA were giving aid, comfort and encouragement to Ho Chi Minh.

They're still encouraging the enemy today.

80 posted on 05/31/2004 4:36:46 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: BulletBobCo

Candidate Kerry for POTUS: Piece Of Traitorous UnAmerican S***?


81 posted on 05/31/2004 4:38:04 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bump.


82 posted on 05/31/2004 4:38:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; Cindy; devolve; MeekOneGOP; potlatch
That's one endorsement I'm sure will be tactfully hidden.
That's why we must keep exposing "Hanoi John."


83 posted on 05/31/2004 4:39:17 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: SheLion

D-Day anniversary, war on terror, etc. Nothing on this (unless he mentioned it in the first 15 minutes). Guest host certainly isn't pushing it yet.


84 posted on 05/31/2004 4:39:37 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: Interesting Times
Breaking: John Kerry Honored by Vietnamese Communists

I ain't one bit surprised.....

85 posted on 05/31/2004 4:40:03 PM PDT by b4its2late (Every morning is the dawn of a new error...)
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To: weegee
Kerry's photograph is featured in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City

I'm guessing that that display is coming down right about now - certainly well before any patriotic news organization can get in to verify this.

86 posted on 05/31/2004 4:40:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: weegee
Candidate Kerry for POTUS: Piece Of Traitorous UnAmerican S***?

That'll work too!

87 posted on 05/31/2004 4:41:53 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: SheLion

Hanoi John on drugs?
Well, the campaign trail is long and hard, and he might need some entertainment, and he is by his own testimony a “typical baby killing war criminal of the dope smoking military establishment that fought in Viet Nam“ - his testimony, not mine.
Every time I see its picture or think of it winning our presidency, I get physically ill, but I still keep posting its picture.


88 posted on 05/31/2004 4:42:01 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: RobFromGa
Hanoi John- Viet Cong War Hero.
John Kerry- Vietnam War Hero?
Recognized As Hero By BOTH Sides

Benedict Arnold was a hero to both sides of his war. Still doesn't change the fact that he was a traitor.

89 posted on 05/31/2004 4:42:42 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: SandRat
At 2:30 PM PST FOX NEWS called him
"a highly decorated Viet Nam vet."
I guess Hanoi Jane gave his some medals he actually earned.
90 posted on 05/31/2004 4:43:07 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: ladyinred



Communist Vietnamese Honor John Kerry, the War Protestor, as a Hero in the Communist Victory over the United States in the Vietnam War.
In the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), a photograph of John Kerry hangs in a room dedicated to the anti-war activists who helped the Vietnamese Communists win the Vietnam War. The photograph shows then-Massachusetts Lieutenant Governor Kerry being greeted by the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, Comrade Do Muoi.
Jeffrey M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth acquired the photograph over the Memorial Day weekend as America was commemorating its military heroes. Epstein’s organization, Vietnam Vets for the Truth, had issued a general request last week for photographs documenting Kerry’s activities on behalf of the enemy. Bob Shirley, a Vietnam Swift Boat veteran (www.pcf45.com), sent the photograph to Epstein in response to that call. Shirley recently joined over 200 other Swift Boat in signing an open letter stating that Kerry is "...not fit to be commander-in-chief."
91 posted on 05/31/2004 4:45:07 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls - Proof that when the Main Stream Media wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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To: SheLion
Look at those eyes. He looks like he is on DRUGS.

From a joke he made while on the road with an old folkie...


92 posted on 05/31/2004 4:45:35 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

And the BIG GUNS have yet to be brought to bear.


93 posted on 05/31/2004 4:45:58 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Smartass

94 posted on 05/31/2004 4:46:45 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor)
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To: BenLurkin
>>Kerry's photograph is featured in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City

I'm guessing that that display is coming down right about now - certainly well before any patriotic news organization can get in to verify this.

Sign outside says:

Hall Closed For Historical Revision

- By order of Big Brother

95 posted on 05/31/2004 4:49:05 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: Interesting Times

WOW .. another endorsement for Kerry ... He sure is batting a thousand with them


96 posted on 05/31/2004 4:49:23 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
(((PING)))
97 posted on 05/31/2004 4:50:49 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: Interesting Times

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JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320


.


98 posted on 05/31/2004 4:53:28 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: SheLion
Why would they bring this out now? Who's side brought this out?

Jerry Corsi (jrlc here) and I have been working with Vietnam Vets for the Truth, the guys who are sponsoring the Kerry Lied Rally this September 12th in Washington. They put out a call for photos last week, which we echoed at WinterSoldier.com, and this is one of the items that turned up. Since Bob Shirley, the guy who sent in the photo, is a Swift Boat vet, they involved Swift Boat Veterans for Truth to validate the story and the photo -- hence John O'Neill's involvement. I hope you're writing this down. There will be a quiz.

99 posted on 05/31/2004 4:54:07 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: BulletBobCo
Did I hear something?

Oh God Save us all!!!!


100 posted on 05/31/2004 4:54:57 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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