Genghis Khan: Father To Millions

Discovery News ^ | 6-22-2004 | Rossella Lorenzi

[ladyjane]

LOL. I'm still trying to figure out what is wrong with the word Oriental and why Asian is preferred. Anybody?

[SunkenCiv]

The second to last of the Plantagenet kings (England) is said to have at least 10 million descendants in the US alone. IOW, I think this is a bit overblown (so to speak).

George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

[ValerieUSA]

Wanna guess how many descendents of flaming Nero are roaming around?
Nada.
He loses.

[Cronos]

The final piece of evidence came from the Hazara, a hill tribe in Pakistan who

Aren't the Hazaras from central Afghanistan?

[Cronos]

THe Russian view on this? There must be quite a few Russians decended from the greatest conqueror that ever lived.

[Cronos]

In 800 years Clinton can have a legacy too.

What? cigar ash?

[Cronos]

That sounds exactly like what Conan the Barbarian says: True joy is to defeat your enemies, to drive them ....

[justshutupandtakeit]

BS. Our military has done a marvelous job in its fights during the Bush administration.

Genghis left little of value for history though his destruction and killing was on a scale comparable to Hitler and Stalin. I suppose you would call for them as well.

RATmedia attempts to convince the sheeple we have lost in Iraq apparently has worked too well on you. What a shame.

[Cronos]

At one point one of his successors actually sent an embassy to the Pope requesting an alliance between the Mongols and Christian Crusaders to wipe out the Muslims

Actually, IIRC it was the other way aroudn -- the Pope sent an envoy to Kublai Khan, the great-grandson of Genghis Khan and absolute ruler of China and Russia. Kublai Khan refused and instead told the Pope to surrender to him.

What a pity, a few years later, the Mongol's cousins, the Turks becameMuslim. What a missed opportunity.

[PJ-Comix]

Finding Genghis Khan's tomb, one of the great secrets of all time, could provide the definitive evidence, leading to a direct comparison of Genghis' Y chromosome with those of modern men.

Maybe NOT such a good idea. Tamerlane, another Mongol conqueror had a known curse on his tomb in Samarkand where Uzbekistan is today located. Here was the inscribed curse: "Whoever disturbs My tomb will have their home invaded by an even greater monster than I."

Well, back when Uzbekistan was a Soviet Republic, the communists scoffed at such "silly" curses. Even though the locals respected this curse of Tamerlane, the communists went ahead and opened his tomb. The date---June 22, 1941. And a few hours after the tomb was opened word came that the Nazis has invaded Russia that very day.

[Cronos]

Timur e Lang really was a monster -- he sacked northern India and indulged in a long feast of destruction, ravaging, the lot.

[ZULU]

"RATmedia attempts to convince the sheeple we have lost in Iraq apparently has worked too well on you. What a shame."

Hardly.

"Genghis left little of value for history though his destruction and killing was on a scale comparable to Hitler and Stalin. I suppose you would call for them as well."

Read the book.

[ZULU]

You are correct. The Pope did send such an envoy.

But one of Kublai's predecessor's and Genghis' successor's did send an envoy to another Pope as a Mongol army was moving into the Middle East.

[blam]

"Aren't the Hazaras from central Afghanistan?"

Yup...I posted a map on them the other day.

[blam]

"Well, back when Uzbekistan was a Soviet Republic, the communists scoffed at such "silly" curses. Even though the locals respected this curse of Tamerlane, the communists went ahead and opened his tomb. The date---June 22, 1941. And a few hours after the tomb was opened word came that the Nazis has invaded Russia that very day."

Yup. I saw that on one of the TV documentaries titled The Barbarians, it covered all these guys.

[Plutarch]

That sounds exactly like what Conan the Barbarian says: True joy is to defeat your enemies, to drive them ....

No coincidence there. The screenwriters apparently did a little barbarian research, and had Conan paraphrasing Ghengis. The link below has an audio of Arnold doing that line (just go to the site and it plays in the background):

Conan audio link

[justshutupandtakeit]

I have read others. Nothing to refute what I have said.

[ZULU]

I just guess we have a different perspective on this.

[RussianConservative]

As if that is a question that is of need to be asked.

[PJ-Comix]

Yup. I saw that on one of the TV documentaries titled The Barbarians, it covered all these guys.

Even more AMAZING is that since Uzbekistan is several time zones East of the Russian frontier with occupied Poland back then, the scientists entered the tomb in the late morning at EXACTLY the same moment that the Germans invaded Russia in the early AM.