Male homosexuality or male heterosexuality, you decide.
Posted on 06/25/2004 7:32:18 AM PDT by scripter
I'm sure this will lead off the 6 o'clock news.
Male homosexuality or male heterosexuality, you decide.
Actually, instead of alcoholism, I was going to use "cleft palate" as an analogy to homosexuality. That does have a genetic component, and is a physical rather than psychological abberation, so I didn't.
I ask because Identical Twins are formed from the same egg & sperm and have IDENTICAL DNA. Any case of a homosexual identical twin with a hetrosexual twin would discredit a "gay gene" theory.
And I used google also to make sure I had the correct word.
Other genetic mutation/problems/diseases aren't rooted in the rejection of heterosexual sex, which sends genes up the line. 
What specific points on the pro-homosexuality side do you find overwhelming?
I used to work with three people who listened to his hit-and-miss-speculations and I saw him on c-span a few times. (so please spare me the 'why do you listen to him' or' don't listen to him' line.
Bohannon bought the bogus 'homosexuality is genetic' nonsense...hook, line and sinker. Not only did it make a fool of him, but he gets angry if someone questions it.
I doubt he ever read the psuedo-science he often referred to on his show to justify his preaching.
Jim, if you happen to see this advice, please read the original lies and reconsider. If not, please read this updated news and stop lying.
You need to consider the incidence of early child sexual abuse on the numbers of later self-identifying homosexuals. You will find some startling correlations.
What would you call compulsive behavior that uses organs not designed, or antithetical to the use thereof, for sexual gratification, in disharmony with the fundational physical and psychological paradigm of physical reality with respect to mammals, and so doing cause damage, disease, sickness and death?
That doesn't mean somebody is born with homosexual tendencies and it doen't mean there are any ties between genetics and homosexuality (behavior). I often quote the following excerpt from the above article:
The author of this piece is trying to get us to buy off on a purely environmental model, which is not believable.What are these traits? If we could identify them precisely, many of them would turn out to be gifts rather than "problems," for example a "sensitive" disposition, a strong creative drive, a keen aesthetic sense. Some of these, such as greater sensitivity, could be related to - or even the same as - physiological traits that also cause trouble, such as a greater-than-average anxiety response to any given stimulus.
No one knows with certainty just what these heritable characteristics are; at present we only have hints. Were we free to study homosexuality properly (uninfluenced by political agendas) we would certainly soon clarify these factors - just as we are doing in less contentious areas. In any case, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the behavior "homosexuality" is itself directly inherited.
Homosexuality, the behavior, and what science tells us, is just that. The behavior itself is learned and not genetic. As stated above, some may be born with certain traits that in a politically correct culture, others will improperly encourage homosexuality (behavior). The author is stating what science supports.
That is, homosexuality (behavior) stems from purely environmental factors. I keep saying behavior for a reason. Some are more susceptible to that behavior, yes, but those traits, as the article says, are better described as gifts, just as those without these gifts have gifts of their own. You seem to want to believe that some gifts imply homosexual behavior when they do not.
Because homosexuality (behavior) is environmental or learned then we would expect it possible for homosexuals to leave (or escape) the lifestyle. And that's just what we see, and we're seeing more and more of it.
Did I mention that I have a steel plate in my head? I don't remember. Thinking about it on the couch, identical twins with one gay, one hetero not a good argument for genetic differences. Unless (weakly) unless these twins would be a great way to compare/determine a minor minor genetic difference. Aw geez, even I don't believe that. Note to self - start drinking heavily.
Reminds me of a news story several years ago when medical science developed the cochlear implant. Some Organization for the Deaf was enraged when the parents of a deaf child had the implant inserted into their child's ear. The organization saw it as a betrayal of the child's "natural" deafness.
Yes, but my brain is not constrained by the shackles of "logic".
None. I'm neither pro nor anti homosexual except as it applies to the 'homosexual agenda'.
I think you have gotten in late on this discussion and misinterpreted something I posted.
What we're talking about here is the continued debate about homosexuality being genetic or behavioral.
Acually it's less than 50%. Some better studies were done - you may find this article very intersting: The Importance of Twin Studies.
Answer: Perversion.
I do not doubt it in the least.
You said you found the evidence overwhelming on both sides of the debate. What did I misinterpret? Also, I'm trying to understand how arriving after the discussion has been going on for a while has something to do with the statements made during the discussion. Did you retract a statement of yours somewhere along the line, and I missed it?
I seem to remember something about that, and what a parallel! That is indeed what we see here, only the ramifications of some being wrong on homosexualtiy are so great they will go to great lengths to believe themselves right. They will probably wear blinders to the grave.
You don't think perversion is a mental illness? If it isn't, it can only be, therefore, mental health.
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