Note the source of the graphical aid. At least the article makes some mention of the ethical issues involved. The article made no mention of therapeutic cloning that I remember. The products of conception just happen.
Posted on 07/29/2004 8:13:29 PM PDT by neverdem
Note the source of the graphical aid. At least the article makes some mention of the ethical issues involved. The article made no mention of therapeutic cloning that I remember. The products of conception just happen.
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Bush does not ban stem cell research, he restricts federal funding for it.
Now if stem cell research is so promising, and can cure all these diseases in good time, wouldn't that mean the pharmaceutical industry would be investing like crazy in it?
Think about this, the amount of money they could make if this stuff works out even half as good as people hope.
But these companies don't pour money into research do they? No, why? Because they know that its a pie in sky like fetal tissue research was. Its not a moral issue to them, its a financial issue, that silence you hear, is the true feelings about those who would have the most to gain if this would work.
The Dems current fascination with stem cells ultimately has nothing to do with stem cells and whether they have any promise or not. Most of them could care less one way or the other about that. The issue is abortion. Abortion, abortion, abortion. They think that if they can get the public to accept the creation (and destruction) of embryos for this purpose, then all the opposition to abortion will cease too.
A lousy article, but hey it's the NY Slimes.
They don't tell you that stem cells don't just come from embryos!
Adult stem cells have been used for years to cure diseases, even grow new heart muscle. (did you know that bone marrow is essentially blood in stem cell form?) Embryonic stem cell experiments in animals have a high rate of bad side-effects, like tumors and cancer.
This article, The Stem Cell Cover-Up, written well before Ron's speech, blows his arguments out of the water. Please check it out and challenge Ron with some SCIENTIFICFACTS.
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/05/16/National/The-Stem.Cell.CoverUp-682587.shtml
Many of the people pushing stem cell research are in the biotech field and would profit from more federal funding, because they are having a hard time finding private investors. Can you say VESTED INTEREST?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,43880,00.html
The comment about candidate positions OMITS that President Bush fully supports and encourages stem cell research that does not use embryonic or fetal cells, other than the ones already in existence. And EVERY therapeutic use of stem cells that actually benefited a patient came from sources that are fully supported by the President.
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So how is this different from what the Red Chinese are doing with harvesting transplant organs from condemned prisoners?
What the Chicoms are doing in sacrificing human lives for treatment of others is actually more ethical. Organ transplants are therapeutically proven. But there are no stem cell cures. So this is sacrificing human lives in the hope of eventually finding cures that require more sacrificing of human lives.
Here is your Science Komrad Kerry.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ron Reagan Jr. seemed to be at odds with his father his whole life, but is now concerned about stem cell research, reportedly regarding how it could lead to treating people afflicted with Alzheimer's disease....
Ronald Reagan was pro-life, and although the stem cell research controversy was not part of his political arena, I think he would have been against harvesting unborn fetus tissue for this research.
I think that Ron Jr.'s appearance at the DNC convention was just one more slap in the old man's face.
It's so sad that one of the greatest leaders of this country has such sorry progeny as Ron Jr. and Patty. What happened?
Stem cell research from "harvested embryos" is a political issue. You can get stem cells from umbilical cords at birth, and it should be standard starting ASAP. It is the abortion maniacs that want to tout every possible way to sanctify abortion. Embryonic stem cells are not needed in any case.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/10/22/151156.shtml
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One of the barely mentioned significant parts.
They're perfectly free to do all this with their own money, corporate money, or even other private money.
If it's such a boon, why aren't the giant pharmaceuticals doing just that. They'll get rich!
But none of them are touching it.
The Dems current fascination with stem cells ultimately has nothing to do with stem cells and whether they have any promise or not. Most of them could care less one way or the other about that. The issue is abortion. Abortion, abortion, abortion. They think that if they can get the public to accept the creation (and destruction) of embryos for this purpose, then all the opposition to abortion will cease too.That's all there is to it. You've nailed the propaganda lizard on the head.
You wrote:
"The first step -- as the article says above -- is to see if animal embryonic stem cells can cure animal versions of human diseases. (PETA be damned)
"If they can not do it in animals, there is no need to even get near the human embryonic stem cell issue. There is NO barrier to federal funding of adult stem cell research."
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Absolutely. There should be exactly ZERO interest in human experimentation using this questionable "technology" right now. Imagine how people would howl if a new sunscreen created from noxious chemicals were smeared on a child before it had been tested and proven safe for animals!
The time for these battles to be fought is well in the future. In the mean time, let's find out just how important it is that the cells be "embryonic", and whether it can be safely applied for the patient. We already know how it affects the embryo.
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