Posted on 07/31/2004 10:04:12 AM PDT by calif_reaganite
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Hmmmmmm Sad. Has he been hanging around tooooooo many DIMRATS tooooo long or is it really that he doesn't quite have sufficient clout, yet.
SEEMS TO ME that the line item veto should have done it. Why is he not using it? Trying to stay on everyone's good side enough to keep em pulling with him until he has enough raw power on his Republican or MORE conservative [vs conservative] side of things?
Disappointing.
Especially for unions to still pull so much corrupt clout.
Not that industry isn't corrupt in plenty of spots, too.
Yep!
Arnold wanted a budget agreement - his approval rating started falling once the budget deadline passed. His logic for not being willing to use his line-item veto power escapes me - surely the people would support cuts in irresponsible spending, especially if he were to pass them off as a response to liberal intransigence in negotiations.
While McClintock continues to preach the politics of fiscal responsibility found in the conservative agenda, GovRino continues to play on the political margins, with little success in reducing spending, reducing the budget deficit and reducing state debt overall. If this continues, increases in state income taxes are around the corner.
Brother, you got THAT right! :-(
The sad fact is that many Californians are fleeing BECAUSE of the high cost of supporting illegal aliens (and being forced to put up with the mess they bring).
Yes. General fund spending = $81 billion, while revenues = $76 billion. The $5 billion in difference is borrowed.
Same here.......where are all the rabid Arnold supporters today? I remember FR threads taking McClintock supporters to task and none too nicely.
Hay! Where's my Ping... Pang... Pong??? How 'bout a Pogo Ping so's I can start jumpin up and down???
So where were all you holier-than-thou McClintock blowhards when you let the Democrats take 48-32 majority in your State Assembly, and a 25-14 majority in your State Senate?
Blaming Arnold is asinine, and its the singular obsession of a small cadre of losers still consumed with bitterness from Arnold's 48-13 assicking of McClintock last October.
It seems rather odd to me that McClintock would take to the floor of the senate on the eve of information coming out of Schwarzenegger's Budget Analysis Committee, revealing that suggestions for massing state staffing cuts, elimination of over 100 state commissions, and a rather heathy cut in state spending.
In effect McClintock's words were dated within 24 hours of them being uttered.
Let's presume the worst. Let's say none of these cuts take place. McClintock will come out looking pretty good. But if there are significant cuts, California's state employees are cut significantly, the budget is cut between $5 and $10 bilion per year and over 100 state commissions are disolved, then Tom's not going to come out looking pretty good.
Tom has gone on the record trashing Schwarzenegger's efforts to turn state politics around. If Schwarzenegger does turn state politics around, does bring spending under control, does balance the budget and pay down the debt, Tom's prognositications are going to ring hollow throughout the state and beyond.
Time will tell. I'll be rooting for Schwarzenegger's plan to work. I guess that makes me a star-struck person. I should probably join the others and hope like hell the predictions of his disasterous failures come true.
We'll see how things look by 2006. If things work out as Tom has predicted, perhaps I'll be voting for him in the 2006 primaries. If not, he's not going to have much political pull on me at the ballot box.
Are you saying that blaming Davis for an irresponsible budget last year was perfectly fine, but blaming Arnold for an irresponsible budget this year is asinine? Seems slightly illogical to me.
I see your point that Arnold is not singularly at fault for this bugdet, but, given his sky-high approval rating, don't you think he should have used it to pursue more cuts and exercise his line-item veto?
Heh! That's putting it mildly! They said McClintock supporters were secret "Buste-MECHA" enablers, donchaknow. Deep down, the "Tomikazes"* hated California and Arnold so much, that they would rather see California burn than let a hollywood action hero who embodied "the American Dream" have a chance at correcting California's problems. And who _cares_ what Rush says???
Yikes. And that was from _Republicans!_
but california is far from perfect.
He not talking perfection … He’s talking reality …. Cold hard facts math & logic
It, not "California is far from perfect". … it "California is far from reality"… it’s fantasy land
We have McClintock's word for it that things are getting even worse on Arnold's watch. Is he correct? I don't know, but would appreciate reading an objective opinion of where California finances are really heading. Selective use of numbers can often be used to mislead the unwary.
Well, this was a statement on the budget - a particular piece of legislation - not an assessment of how Arnold is doing in general. When looking at a budget, you have to go by the numbers in front of you, especially in light of the fact that there are no assurances that Arnold's CPR plans will come to fruition.
>>>We'll see how things look by 2006.
By 2006?!
GovRino's rhetoric during the recall campaign gave many the impression that he would have the state turned around and back on track by the end of 2004, or sometime in 2005 at the latest. So far, Arnold has increased the size of the budget and hoodwinked people into voting for passage of an additional $15 billion in loan debt. A form of taxation that places a significant amount of the burden for payoff on the backs of future taxpayers.
I can appreciate your desire to see Arnold succeed. After all, you live in the state. I just thing your spin is misguided. Face it, you can't have it both ways and you definitely can't have it all.
Need I remind you of what Arnold said shortly after entering the recall race. Once the budget is back in the black, Arnold will be able to keep his pledge and fully fund all the social welfare and entitlement programs that the people want. That's tax and spend liberalism. That isn't fiscal conservatism. McClintock may not be in the drivers seat, but his rhetoric is right on the money.
Let me check. Oh yes, I did say we'd have to wait and see. Clock's a tickin'. The spring of 2006 is coming. We'll see if Tom's predictions bear out.
Not only a a star-struck person but a disingenuous a star-struck person to boot.
You participated yesterday in the discussion of the yet unveiled proposal to redirect state spending to the private sector. You know the shift will accomplish some savings but not enough to offset the continued liberal binge to be approved by Schwarzenegger today.
One ballyhooed step forward to accomplish two quiet steps backward and Schwarzenegger's donor's get a pot of gold from the state to boot. A win-win deal, for liberals and big donors equally.
And to think that your blind party loyalty helped accomplish all this. Congratulations. Good for you and screw the rest of us.
Without the people you call blowhards, Gray Davis would still be governor. Everybody else didn't want to pursue the recall. So, basically, you wish that Gray Davis was still governor.
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