Caught On Tape: Cops Use Taser Gun On Man Trying To Get Home

Local10 ^ | 8/17/2004 | Local10

[TomServo]

Officers in hurricane-ravaged Fort Myers used a Taser gun on a man allegedly trying to get by a police barrier to get home, and it was all caught on tape.

This video was just mention on Boortz...

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

would you feel comfortable letting people go into a condemned building if you were the person in charge and you knew the building could fall at any time? would you feel that would be a wise choice?

If it is so dangerous, then why are the police letting people stay in the area?

Hel-lo?!

[MacDorcha]

money, time, man-power,

and of course, privacy. as i have stated, an officer of the law cannot force his way into your house except in an immediate emergency. they suggested to those that would listen for them to evacuate. those people, following the rules for evacuating, left the homes of their own will in the hands of the authorities.

by leaving, they give up the rights to return until they are told it is safe.

i suppose you think wars should be faught on an individual basis too? someone has to answer to somebody in an emergency.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

oh my God, you are a thick one.

Personal attacks. The last resort of the troll.

you JUST said in the post i was responding to that he survived. read your own words.

And if he survived and lives in the area, then let him in.

You still haven't explained why the danger is so much worse for the people returning than it is for the people who stayed behind.

[MacDorcha]

in the area is not in the building.

Hi?

[CindyDawg]

I read all the posts about looters and cops following rules for safety but this is probably the number one reason why people aren't eager to evacuate. If you stay you can accept responsibility for your safety and protect your property. Once you leave though you are treated like a child and not considered capable of making safe decisions. I've been thru this. It's a nightmare trying to get back. If you have ID, you should be allowed immediately back in , if you are making an informed decision, IMO. All this is going to do is encourage more people to stay put the next time. I'm sorry that LE is tired and testy but homeowners rights still need to be respected.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

address or not, what is your property may be 5 blocks away. what is someone else's may be in your address.

Doesn't change the fact that there are already people in the area, does it?

What makes them so special?

[Mark17]

What is the reason for keeping people out of their homes?

Who knows, maybe it is dangerous. Collapsed buildings, possible power lines, possible gas explosions too.

[MacDorcha]

you never asked the difference between the two.

here's why: if you are IN danger, the cops can only ask you to come. this is because some people may not trust they are in danger, and may make more in danger in a rescue attempt.

if you are GOING TO danger, a cop, being in charge, can make you not go there, as it preserves life.

[null and void]

I see! You wanted them to go in before the storm hit, kick down every door, look in every closet and cupboard, under every bed, and behind every curtain, arrest everyone they found, and non-violently drag them kicking and screaming away from their homes and pets.

Then you'd be happy that they won't let survivors go in and tangle with downed power lines, leaking gas, spilled chemicals, and damaged buildings on the verge of collapse without escorts?

Did I get that right?

[ravingnutter]

Pets are not allowed at the shelters. Might make someone allegic. So you have to leave them at home.

If you have pets, you should have an evacuation plan for them. Recommended research:

Contact hotels and motels outside your immediate area to check policies on accepting pets and restrictions on number, size and species. Ask if "no pet" policies could be waived in an emergency. Keep a list of "pet friendly" places, including phone numbers, with your other disaster information and supplies. If you have notice of an impending disaster, call ahead for reservations.

Ask friends, relatives or others outside the affected area whether they could shelter your animals. If you have more than one pet, they may be more comfortable if kept together, but be prepared to house them separately.

Prepare a list of boarding facilities and veterinarians who could shelter animals in an emergency; include 24-hour phone numbers.

Ask local animal shelters if they provide emergency shelter or foster care for pets in a disaster. They may be overburdened caring for the animals they already have as well as those displaced by a disaster, so this should be your last resort.

Most importantly:

Do not wait until disaster strikes to do this research!

Put together a pet evacuation kit to keep on hand:

Medications and medical records (stored in a waterproof container) and a first aid kit.

Sturdy leashes, harnesses, and/or carriers to transport pets safely and ensure that your animals can't escape.

Current photos of your pets in case they get lost. Food, potable water, bowls, cat litter and pan, and can opener.

Information on feeding schedules, medical conditions, behavior problems and the name and number of your veterinarian in case you have to foster or board your pets.

Pet beds and toys, if easily transportable.

IMHO, there is absolutely no reason to leave a pet behind. We recently bought a new mobile home and requested that the old mobile home be moved to the back of the property until the new one was set up so that we would not have to leave our animals. We roughed it for several weeks, using a port-a-potty, heating water in an electric pot and cooking in an electric skillet (we normally use propane) so that we would not have to leave them alone.

In fact, I was really angry when I saw on TV that the animal control officials were talking about reuniting pets with their owners after their owners left them to helplessly die in the storm. Those people don't deserve pets.

[fooman]

Post of the day. I was going to say the same thing.

People will not evacuate next time...

[MacDorcha]

"people in the area" does not mean everything is legal, stop using that as a reason, it makes no sense.

and btw, personal attacks are also reserved for use ON trolls.

[MacDorcha]

hehe, nicely put.

[JoJo Gunn]

"address or not, what is your property may be 5 blocks away. what is someone else's may be in your address."

Why is it I envision you as one of those old stereotypical over-the-top Civil Defense types?

[MacDorcha]

do you have an arguement or just a stereotype?

[Mark17]

Then what's to stop the people who stayed behind from looting their neighbors' homes?

There is a good chance they did not survive.

[Oztrich Boy]

by leaving, they give up the rights to return until they are told it is safe.

"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you."

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

and of course, privacy. as i have stated, an officer of the law cannot force his way into your house except in an immediate emergency. they suggested to those that would listen for them to evacuate. those people, following the rules for evacuating, left the homes of their own will in the hands of the authorities.

Guess what? Emergency's over. Time to get back to rebuilding.

As long as people can prove they live in the area, then there's no reason to keep them out, especially if there's already other homeowners in the area.

As far as the 'personal safety' angle you keep hawking, it has been proved time and time again in the courts that the police are not responsible for an individual's safety.

You still haven't explained why it's more dangerous for people returning to their homes than it is for people already there.

But then I expected as much from the likes of you. Anyone who calls others names proves that logic isn't one of their stronger traits.

[null and void]

I thought your post #68 was better/more to the point.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

There is a good chance they did not survive.

That's not what I read.