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Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 08-19-2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/19/2004 6:36:22 AM PDT by boris

Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat

By Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas -- Just a few miles from George W. Bush's former office at the state Capitol, a panel of religious experts weighed a question with relevance to many people of faith: How would Jesus vote?

It's a complex topic that can't be boiled down to simple political terms, said religious leaders who attended a Texas Faith Network conference in Austin on Tuesday.

James C. Moore, renowned anti-Bush co-author of "Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George Bush Presidential," drew laughter and applause when he offered his view to the moderate to liberal crowd of about 250 clergy and lay leaders.

"If ever there were a bleeding-heart liberal, it was Jesus Christ," Moore said at Congregation Agudas Achim synagogue. "I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat."

Many at the conference voiced concerns that the religious right dominates discussions of faith and morality in politics. They complained that issues such as abortion and gay marriage seem to take priority over hunger, corporate crime and even the war in Iraq.

Some research has found that white Christians who attend worship services at least once a week are far more likely to vote Republican, while less frequent worshippers and those who are not religious tend to lean Democratic. Many analysts have criticized Democrats for failing to more effectively reach religious voters.

"The sound bites and the headlines have co-opted people of faith," said the Rev. Tom Heger, pastor of St. John's Presbyterian Church in Manchaca, south of Austin. "It would be a surprise to a lot of folks to discover that there are some very faithful, regular church attendees who aren't going to vote for Bush."

Conservative pastors such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson "would have us believe that morality is all about where you stand on abortion, how you treat homosexuals. I think that is simply wrong," said John D. Moyers, senior fellow at the Washington-based Center for American Progress.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
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To: P-Marlowe

More to the point, Satan was the "Father of Lies", which means he was the founding father of politics.


61 posted on 08/19/2004 7:51:23 AM PDT by yatros from flatwater (After you've rendered what is God's to God, what exactly remains?)
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To: Coop

exactly.


62 posted on 08/19/2004 7:52:30 AM PDT by go-ken-go
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To: boris
a panel of religious experts weighed a question with relevance to many people of faith: How would Jesus vote?

They should be more concerned about how the terrorists would vote.

63 posted on 08/19/2004 7:59:13 AM PDT by kevao
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To: apillar
Actually, I think Jesus would probably denounce both parties as being corrupt, just as he did with both main political groups in his day...

I agree. He'd be turning tables over left and right.

64 posted on 08/19/2004 8:03:11 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Funding the American troops in combat should never be a complicated issue." D. Cheney 8-12-04)
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To: zencat
I guess I missed the sermon about the government redistribution of wealth and progressive taxation.

BINGO!

65 posted on 08/19/2004 8:05:15 AM PDT by agrace
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To: boris

There is always some leftwingnut group trying to use Jesus to promote their self serving agenda.

There are the PETA freaks who claimed that Jesus was a vegitarioan despite the fact that Jesus was clearly an observant Jew and ate meat his whole life.

There are the envirowackos with the "what would Jesus drive" stupidity.

There are the butt pirates who try to promote that Jesus was a homosexual.

And now there is a group of goofballs who believe that Jesus would vote for the party that supports all the garbage that the 'Rats cater to like abortion, homosexual marriage, abdicating personal responsibility, elimination of God in our public lives, ad nauseum.


66 posted on 08/19/2004 8:07:53 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: D Rider

I am assuming, of course, that there are some Dems who, for one reason or another (naive, ill-informed, misguided)are potentially save-able.

Jesus can work miracles!


67 posted on 08/19/2004 8:13:55 AM PDT by airborne (Death From Above)
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To: boris
Group says Jesus Christ would vote Democrat

Just like the Democrats, Jesus is well known for his support of unfettered abortion.

68 posted on 08/19/2004 8:15:13 AM PDT by RJL
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To: airborne
I am assuming, of course, that there are some Dems who, for one reason or another (naive, ill-informed, misguided)are potentially save-able.

Jesus can work miracles!

Of course! Then they become republicans!

69 posted on 08/19/2004 8:18:49 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: boris

I'm pretty sure that Jesus would not have voted for abortion, pornography, and gay marriage.


70 posted on 08/19/2004 8:19:06 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: boris

"I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat."

No, that would be Judas, who wanted to sell Jesus' balm and "give it to the poor."


71 posted on 08/19/2004 8:23:46 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: ArGee

"Careful, JMT. It was Christianity that started the argument over what the definition of "is" is.

"This is my body, given for you..." (emphasis mine)

Shalom."


Yes, Christ was and "is" a very controversial figure and there is nothing new under the sun. Things are on course just as it is written they would be.


72 posted on 08/19/2004 8:24:50 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Matchett-PI
"No - they think Jesus is a RELATIVIST that rejects absolute (self-evident) truth like they do.

Of course, a relativistic worldview positions anyone that thinks like that as a potential threat to our Constitution since our Constitution was only put into place to guard absolute truth."


Especially that acknowledgment by the founding fathers that "Rights given by the Creator no man/government can take", which needs the addition of "no man/government can give".
73 posted on 08/19/2004 8:28:00 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: boris
This is a tough call. The bible says he was friends with both 'sinners and republicans'...
74 posted on 08/19/2004 8:30:27 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (In newspaper spell-checkers, why is 'liberal' always spelled 'm-o-d-e-r-a-t-e'?)
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To: wita

Thank you for your kind post. Jesus certainly must have known that the political system of his time would pass, just as surely as the political system of our time will pass. The "system" he belongs to is eternal.


75 posted on 08/19/2004 8:44:30 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: yatros from flatwater
More to the point, Satan was the "Father of Lies", which means he was the founding father of politics.

Ain't THAT the truth.

After you've rendered what is God's to God, what exactly remains?

Great tag line!

Dwight Pryor (www.jcstudies.com) claims this is precisely what Jesus meant. When he showed the Jews the face on the coin he was showing them a graven image of one of the Roman gods. He was pointing out that the entire debate demonstrated that the Jews were playing at religion and quibbling over details rather than giving their entire lives over to G-d as He required of them.

Shalom.

76 posted on 08/19/2004 10:20:15 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Just mythoughts
Yes, Christ was and "is" a very controversial figure and there is nothing new under the sun.

Of course, The Bible is G-d's inerrant witness to His Holy Word, Jesus. However, we are not inerrant interpreters of His witness.

IMHO: become a disciple of Jesus and the rest will work itself out.

Shalom.

77 posted on 08/19/2004 10:23:19 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Just mythoughts
Especially that acknowledgment by the founding fathers that "Rights given by the Creator no man/government can take", which needs the addition of "no man/government can give".

You don't even have to look for rights given by the Creater. How about rights given by the Constitution? You have a right to an abortion, but not a right to bear arms? What kind of carp is that? Only a Dimocrat could twist reality this badly.

Shalom.

78 posted on 08/19/2004 10:25:09 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: boris

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79 posted on 08/19/2004 10:26:18 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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To: ArGee

"Of course, The Bible is G-d's inerrant witness to His Holy Word, Jesus. However, we are not inerrant interpreters of His witness.

IMHO: become a disciple of Jesus and the rest will work itself out.

Shalom."

This is very true, a life long lesson requires continued study, always more to learn.


80 posted on 08/19/2004 10:26:38 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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