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Cheney Backs Freedom for Gay Relationships
AP ^ | 8-24-04

Posted on 08/24/2004 1:43:08 PM PDT by ambrose

Posted on Tue, Aug. 24, 2004

Cheney Backs Freedom for Gay Relationships

TODD DVORAK

Associated Press

DAVENPORT, Iowa - Vice President Dick Cheney, whose daughter Mary is a lesbian, spoke supportively about gay relationships on Tuesday, saying "freedom means freedom for everyone."

At a campaign rally in this Mississippi River town, Cheney was asked about his stand on gay marriage - an issue for which his boss, President Bush, has pushed for a constitutional amendment to ban such unions.

"Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it's an issue our family is very familiar with," Cheney said. "With the respect to the question of relationships, my general view is freedom means freedom for everyone ... People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to.

"The question that comes up with the issue of marriage is what kind of official sanction or approval is going to be granted by government? Historically, that's been a relationship that has been handled by the states. The states have made that fundamental decision of what constitutes a marriage," he said.

Bush backs a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage, a move Cheney says was prompted by various judicial rulings, including the action in Massachusetts that made gay marriage legal.

"I think his perception was that the courts, in effect, were beginning to change, without allowing the people to be involved," Cheney said. "The courts were making the judgment for the entire country."

That stand put Cheney at odds with his wife. Last month, Lynne Cheney said states should have the final say over the legal status of personal relationships, a comment that came just days before the Senate failed to back the ban.

Cheney said the amendment did not have the votes to pass, but he also said the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which President Clinton signed into law in 1996, may be sufficient to resolve the issue.

The Cheneys have two daughters, both of whom are working on the campaign. Mary Cheney is director of vice presidential operations for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. She held a public role as her father's assistant in the 2000 campaign and helped the GOP recruit gay voters during the 2002 midterm elections.

During the 2000 campaign, vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney took the position that states should decide legal issues about personal relationships and that people should be free to enter relationships of their choosing.

While Bush and Cheney back the proposed constitutional amendment, their Democratic rivals, Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North Carolina, oppose the amendment.

The Democrats also oppose gay marriage, but defend a gay couple's rights to the same legal protections as those conferred in marriage.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dickcheney; gayvote; homosexualagenda; issues; marriageamendment; marycheney; samesexunions
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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
But freedom means freedom for everyone.
But only until it contravenes the social/legal structure of the country. Freedom doesn't mean that I can't shoot someone a bullet in the head just because I think they should procreate. For instance, we do allow group relationships (sex) while we don't allow undefined group procreation. So, it is not a question of morals or ethics, but a question of social structure.

As for the turkey baster, there still is only one natural mother and one father. The latter remains unknown and the second lesbian partner assumes the legal stand of the adoptive parent. No difference to heterosexual couples where he is shooting blanks.
42 posted on 08/24/2004 2:29:52 PM PDT by drtom
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To: jerrydavenport

What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?


43 posted on 08/24/2004 2:29:52 PM PDT by Darksheare (Who are all these mimes, why are they in the woods, and did you know they taste like chicken?)
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To: Bella_Bru
This may or may not have occurred to you, but what if he doesn't care?

If he doesn't care (and I am not speaking for him, but am parroting your words) then he is not (in my book) a good Republican.

One's personal familial circumstances cannot dictate one's core principals.

44 posted on 08/24/2004 2:30:13 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

Yes, I would. But being a lesbian is not against the law.


45 posted on 08/24/2004 2:30:14 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Darksheare

Now if you want to discuss an issue that is fine. But if you want to indulge in personal attacks, i suggest you dedicate a separate thread to it.

Btw you do realize that you are sick and need professional help.

You not only obsessed over me in 30+ postings, eventhough i wasn no longer on the thread, you now are stalking me all over the board.


46 posted on 08/24/2004 2:30:47 PM PDT by jerrydavenport
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To: Howlin

Check your state laws in our mutual home state of NC, my dear...


47 posted on 08/24/2004 2:31:17 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: Howlin
But being a lesbian is not against the law.

In the fantasies of some around here, it would be.

48 posted on 08/24/2004 2:31:21 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Lurking2Long
If he doesn't care (and I am not speaking for him, but am parroting your words) then he is not (in my book) a good Republican. One's personal familial circumstances cannot dictate one's core principals.

Core principles dictated by who? You? You have decided that he should stand against it?

I suppose you'd have been happier if he called for a public stoning of his daughter.

Excuse me, I'm on my way out the door. To go have dinner with a good friend. She's a lesbian.

49 posted on 08/24/2004 2:33:21 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: jerrydavenport
"I would tolerate gays, because they are human and have the same rights as everyone. it's their world as much as it is ours."

Unless and until science proves conclusively that homosexual acts are genetically ordered and not morally disorded lasciviousness that lampoons human nature and frustrates Divine intention, I'll never believe that "it's as much their world as it is ours". It's only as much "their world" as we as a society allow it to be.

I'm sure they have the right to exist in peace so that perhaps they might allow their God-given instincts to rise up one day and overthrow their perverted lusts, but the devious acts they perform on one another, and the disease that incubates and spreads as a result, should absolutely never be accepted or embraced by our society, or considered as "part of our world". I think homosexuality is straight from hell.

50 posted on 08/24/2004 2:33:38 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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To: jerrydavenport

What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?


51 posted on 08/24/2004 2:34:21 PM PDT by Darksheare (Who are all these mimes, why are they in the woods, and did you know they taste like chicken?)
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To: Lurking2Long
Check your state laws in our mutual home state of NC, my dear...

They probably also include oral sex between heterosexuals to be illegal too. And you will back these laws as well? Or are you self-serving?

52 posted on 08/24/2004 2:34:30 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Bella_Bru

Old OWK's never die, they just change screen names...


53 posted on 08/24/2004 2:34:51 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long

I know what the law is in NC; it's not against the law to be a lesbian.


54 posted on 08/24/2004 2:36:07 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Lurking2Long

Not OWK. Been here since 2001. You might be surprised to discover not every FReeper shares your views.


56 posted on 08/24/2004 2:36:52 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Bella_Bru
Among other things, eh?

I mentioned last week that my sister had stem cell replacement; I was given the proverbial third degree.....LOL.

57 posted on 08/24/2004 2:37:31 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Darksheare
What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?

You mean like tuberculosis?

58 posted on 08/24/2004 2:37:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Bella_Bru

Your dinner's getting cold (but your date is getting "hot"...)


59 posted on 08/24/2004 2:38:19 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: Darksheare
What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?

So if they can prove their "disease free" it's fine by you?

60 posted on 08/24/2004 2:38:44 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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