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Kerry's Current Ads vs. Bush's Current Ads

Posted on 09/06/2004 1:14:19 PM PDT by hawaiian

Guys, I am sincerely worried about Bush's new ad strategy. He is only doing positive soft-soap ads, full of generalities and no specifics, rather than attacking Kerry. He's also not responding to any of Kerry's attacks. Kerry is being very specific, talking about the 17% increase in health-care costs, etc., which could be easily responded to. If Bush keeps this up, Kerry is going to climb right back into this thing, mark my words.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ads; gwb2004

1 posted on 09/06/2004 1:14:19 PM PDT by hawaiian
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To: hawaiian

Bush will go hard at Kerry while at the same time being positive about his agenda. He's coming out after his convention with "PRO BUSH" commercials. This sells in the battleground states. He will attack Kerry...don't worry about that!

He's not his father!


2 posted on 09/06/2004 1:16:16 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: hawaiian

So write the Bush campaign and offer your services as a consultant.


3 posted on 09/06/2004 1:18:04 PM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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Bush isn't laying down...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1208672/posts


4 posted on 09/06/2004 1:18:38 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: hawaiian

This is labor day. Bush will be back on campaign trail shootin' bear with Zell Miller within the week.

Obviousl, clintoon and crew came up with the clever W is wrong stuff.......better then arguing the Vietnam issues with the Swifties......but he has not addressed his anti-war activities......this will still sink his ship.......keep the faith. I haven't seen the ads, but Bush promised to keep this about issues and no personal attacks....he keeps his word.


5 posted on 09/06/2004 1:18:40 PM PDT by tioga (GOP, the Grand Old Party. God Bless George W. Bush. Four More Years!)
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To: hawaiian
I have been criticizing the Bush campaign for a year and a half now, but they just won't listen.

That's probably a good thing.
6 posted on 09/06/2004 1:19:47 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Senator Kerry is all rice, no shrapnel.)
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To: hawaiian

I saw a Bush ad onThe History Channel today. It hit Kerry hard for missing all the meetings on the Senate Intelligence Committee.


7 posted on 09/06/2004 1:22:17 PM PDT by GeorgiaMike
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To: oolatec
Up until the debates, the candidates have to communicate largely through soundbites. The soundbites for today were:

Kerry: "Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time"

Bush: That is a "flip flop". The war on terror is "right for America".

Bush wins today. He needs to win every day or F'n will creep back into the race. So far, we're off to a good start.

8 posted on 09/06/2004 1:25:42 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: GeorgiaMike
I saw a Bush ad onThe History Channel today. It hit Kerry hard for missing all the meetings on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

I'm certain that I saw the same one. It reviewed Kerry's sorry record on the Senate Intelligence Committee and it definately threw more of a bomb than a creampuff at him.

9 posted on 09/06/2004 1:32:56 PM PDT by Mister Sophisticate
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To: hawaiian
You have never fished for the big one?

When it runs you let out the line a bit.

When you're ready, you set the hook and reel it it.

10 posted on 09/06/2004 1:33:42 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (3 Purple Hearts? No blood? No Way!!)
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To: hawaiian

I agree...the President is just letting him have enough rope to hang himself. I mean...c'mon...if you deduct all the time Kerry hasn't been doing his job in the Senate he is still a Jr. Senator...so the Democrats have a Jr. Senator and a Freshman Senator on their ticket. Pres Bush will hit him with both guns soon.

Like that scene in "Tombstone" when Val Kilmer is walking out of the saloon..."I have two guns, one for each of ya."


11 posted on 09/06/2004 1:43:03 PM PDT by KurtAZ
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To: tioga
the clever W is wrong stuff.......

clever?!? I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when I heard sKerry spouting this stuff.

12 posted on 09/06/2004 1:43:52 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: hawaiian

Bush is letting Kerry "debate himself". Kerry has become so unhinged that he has reversed himself - AGAIN - on Iraq and has resumed his attacks on Bush's NG service, still complaining that Bush has attacked his service in Vietnam (easy enough to prove, Kerry, show us the video, play the audio or show the transcripts).

I think Bush will bide his time and strategically battle Kerry at the appropriate time. He has proven himself time again to be a master strategist and politician. Kerry simply doesn't know what he's up against.


13 posted on 09/06/2004 1:44:51 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: hawaiian

Pehea ‘oe?

I think you worry too much.

 

14 posted on 09/06/2004 1:51:28 PM PDT by MoJo2001 (Psychology: The art of turning stupidity into illness)
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To: hawaiian

Everyone said the Prez, well, not everyone but many said the President should have hit back harder 9 months ago. Took that as a sign he wasn't going to fight back. Then they slam Kerry, Clinton, Hollywood, Press, DNC- everyone -at the RNC convention when it proved to more effective to do so. It shocked the Dems, they never believed the RNC would be that bold. Even "experts" from our own camp were in stunned belief they were so aggressive and we leapt to our feet in praise. They were "misunderestimated".

I maintain G.W. & Rove are still building to a climax for this election. This is their strategy. They want to be in a position of strength by election day, not losing steam towards the end.


15 posted on 09/06/2004 1:52:24 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: hawaiian
"Kerry is being very specific, talking about the 17% increase in health-care costs, etc., which could be easily responded

The 17% increase in Medicare premiums for Part B (11$ per month)was not determined by the President. Long ago, the Congress and a President signed off on a law that permits the administrator of Medicare to increase premiums. I am not certain the President was even consulted. As far as I can determine not only does the administrator do this, but he or she must according to the law in order to keep some semblance of solvency for Medicare.

16 posted on 09/06/2004 1:55:02 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: tioga
Obviously, clintoon and crew came up with the clever W is wrong stuff...

Yeah, but Kerry is too uppercrust to say "Dubya." He says, "Double-U." LOL.

17 posted on 09/06/2004 1:56:46 PM PDT by alnick (US forces armed with what? Spitballs??)
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To: TaxPayer2000

OK, I smiled as well. Clever may not be a good word choice, but it is better then the midnight rally rambling last Thursday night.

I am not "worried".......this election is about which man is best suited to be a wartime president. kerry loses by default.......he lacks any qualifications at all by his own words and deeds........

Keep those Swift Boat ads coming.......


18 posted on 09/06/2004 1:57:15 PM PDT by tioga (GOP, the Grand Old Party. God Bless George W. Bush. Four More Years!)
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To: shrinkermd
The 17% increase in Medicare premiums for Part B (11$ per month)was not determined by the President.

Exactly. But the president isn't answering this.
19 posted on 09/06/2004 1:57:41 PM PDT by hawaiian
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To: alnick
I hadn't noticed his pronunciation.......LOL
20 posted on 09/06/2004 1:59:05 PM PDT by tioga (GOP, the Grand Old Party. God Bless George W. Bush. Four More Years!)
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To: oolatec

lying down. this notice brought to you by grammar correction central.


21 posted on 09/06/2004 2:05:39 PM PDT by MrChips (ARD)
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To: hawaiian

Positive will win out. People are so tired of the mud-slinging, especially when it seems petty, immature and full of lies or half-truths.


22 posted on 09/06/2004 2:07:35 PM PDT by eyespysomething ("...you're not fit to be a prison guard at Abu Ghraib, much less commander in chief.")
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To: tioga
Obviousl, clintoon and crew came up with the clever W is wrong stuff

That's as clever as a heart attack. Oops.

23 posted on 09/06/2004 2:09:20 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: hawaiian

There will be charges and counter-charges for 2 months. Bush can't "answer" everything Kerry says. He does not want to look like he is on the defensive. Sometimes it is better to ignore the attacker and simply go on the attack. When Bush says "I brought seniors prescription drug coverage" well, that is his answer.


24 posted on 09/06/2004 2:10:02 PM PDT by MrChips (ARD)
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To: eyespysomething

Besides, Kerry has already started bringing in some of Clinton's campaign staff. Is somebody getting worried about his campaign?


25 posted on 09/06/2004 2:12:30 PM PDT by KurtAZ
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To: hawaiian

17% rise in health care costs? My Mon said "Bush is raising health care or SS costs by 17%." She had teh number right but what teh ehck was she talking about.


26 posted on 09/06/2004 2:21:47 PM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: hawaiian

Kerry's next comment will be, "Well...well...what about the Dingle/Noorwood Bill?"


27 posted on 09/06/2004 2:29:46 PM PDT by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: hawaiian

The Swiftees are just getting started, and wait until you see the stuff from Catholics Against Kerry...


28 posted on 09/06/2004 2:44:02 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: hawaiian
You don't pay attention very well, do you?

Recall how things started out in the primaries. First Bush released some very pretty, positive commercials. Folks went nuts! The DemoncRATs were complaining about Bush running negative ads against Kerry while Kerry ran negative ads against Bush and the public could see the ads Bush was actually running. Meanwhile Dick Morris was complaining on every show he could about how Bush campaign needed to run spots against Kerry detailing his record. On and on and on.

Duh. A couple weeks later (if even that long) the first of several flip-flop ads + a gas tax one + some others were focused on the battleground states and cable news stations.

Now you'll see the same thing again. It's imperative that the campaign come out of the convention with a positive spot that highlights the agenda and points people to the President's plan, etc.. This is VERY important for the debates coming up as - you can be sure - every other sentence from Kerry will refer to some infamous plan of his, secret or otherwise. The fact Bush HAS an Agenda for the future and is continuing to promote it is key to the short term and long term success of the campaign.

Don't worry, there's plenty of time for all kinds of ads and the Bush campaign is effectively prepared with all kinds of money, now, to use in the most strategic ways possible.

Meanwhile the Kerry campaign is spending $50 MILLION in these couple weeks on spots that will not do much of anything + a movie with more of his phony battle reenactments in Vietnam.

It's called STRATEGERY ;) Guys, I am sincerely worried about Bush's new ad strategy. He is only doing positive soft-soap ads, full of generalities and no specifics, rather than attacking Kerry. He's also not responding to any of Kerry's attacks. Kerry is being very specific, talking about the 17% increase in health-care costs, etc., which could be easily responded to. If Bush keeps this up, Kerry is going to climb right back into this thing, mark my words.

29 posted on 09/06/2004 2:44:09 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Steven W.
PLEASE NOTE THE LAST COMMENTS ABOVE WERE NOT FROM ME BUT ERRANT PASTING OF THE WHINING FROM ABOVE

PS - I'm concerned that this push coming from folks, "oh, gee, Bush isn't hitting hard enough, we've got to get this new Willie Horton out asap" is a setup by DemoncRAT trolls and their minions trying to weave angst amongst lesser experienced politicos. Recall Willie Horton stuff originated with Algore and the fact anybody (ie Soros) can fund some 527 secretly behind the scenes in a strategic blow trying to encourage some ill-advised activity on behalf of Bush supporters.

30 posted on 09/06/2004 2:48:57 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: hawaiian

31 posted on 09/06/2004 2:50:58 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: pabianice
...wait until you see the stuff from Catholics Against Kerry...

I certainly would not presume to advise the swifties on their agenda as so far they have been brilliant.

So far though also, it seems to me that Kerry's record alone ( Viet Nam & the Senate) is damaging enough.

Religion and differences in that subject area seems to me to be a matter which is potentially laden with problems.

32 posted on 09/06/2004 3:04:21 PM PDT by Radix (Not all Muslims are terrorists, but so far all of the terrorists have been Muslims.)
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To: hawaiian

Oh ye of little faith. We haven't even had the debates yet. Cool your jets.


33 posted on 09/06/2004 3:08:22 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

How true. Geez, some people see a boogy man around every corner. Have not Dubya and Rove played this thing mssterfully so far?

I think the dems are scared s***less right now because they know that their negative campaign against the president started too soon (over a year ago) and is running out of steam. They have no new negative issues to raise and the people have already heard their cries.

Watch for the next issue to be raised that will throw Kerry off kilter! I'm telling you, these guys know what they are doing and will be campaigning hard until Nov. 3. Dubya was a student of the master, Lee Atwater, and Rove is working the grass roots like crazy.

No incumbent has lost a lead like Dubya's after Labor Day.


34 posted on 09/06/2004 3:12:26 PM PDT by Thickman (Regis to Kerry: "Is that your final answer?")
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To: hawaiian
Your words are marked.

Bush is fighting for the soccer mom vote, who decide all elections. The wacko's got their red meat during the conventions.

35 posted on 09/06/2004 4:56:18 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Illinois Rep; hawaiian

remember 2002 - President Bush got Norm Coleman and other conservative Republicans elected. He will do more for himself in the next two months - in addition he will do great by people like Coors and Thune. He is helping Republicans in PA, WVa, FL and NM. Watch for more in congress in the new term + a stronger President.


36 posted on 09/06/2004 5:22:30 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: hawaiian

The Bush dynasty in American politics was not built on being "nice" or "stupid" or letting their opponents up when they had them down. 41, notwithstanding, W is no 41!
This worry crap is ridiculous. frenchie's biggest problem in the next 7 weeks will be breaking 40%. Mark MY WORDS,
by Sept 30 the show will be so over that the only talk will be how many senate seats the rats will loose.


37 posted on 09/06/2004 8:10:20 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: Illinois Rep; hawaiian

Besides that .. with the harshness of Zell Miller's comments and the Swifties ads, better for the President to be a little in the background at the moment.

Illinois, I agree the President will be on the attack again shortly in his ads, and he was already attacking Kerry for changing his campaign staff AGAIN, and for changing his stance on Iraq AGAIN. LOL!


38 posted on 09/06/2004 9:11:10 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: Jeff Chandler
I have been criticizing the Bush campaign for a year and a half now, but they just won't listen.

I was saying "Fire Rove!" after N.H in 2000.

I think you and I should just say here and post. :o)

39 posted on 09/06/2004 9:15:19 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: hawaiian
"mark my words."

Your words are looking sillier and sillier. A prognosticator you are not.

40 posted on 09/21/2004 11:10:14 AM PDT by Jean B
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To: jmaroneps37

You certainly undersood the situation.


41 posted on 09/21/2004 11:13:22 AM PDT by Jean B
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To: Jean B
"Guys, I am sincerely worried about Bush's new ad strategy. He is only doing positive soft-soap ads, full of generalities and no specifics, rather than attacking Kerry. He's also not responding to any of Kerry's attacks. Kerry is being very specific, talking about the 17% increase in health-care costs, etc., which could be easily responded to. If Bush keeps this up, Kerry is going to climb right back into this thing, mark my words."

I marked your words (as you suggested) for future reference. Please explain how you could became so wrong then and why anyone should pay any attention to your words now.

42 posted on 01/24/2006 7:42:12 PM PST by Jean B
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To: hawaiian

What is President Bush running for?


43 posted on 01/24/2006 7:42:51 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Jean B

damn now That's a memory :)


44 posted on 01/24/2006 7:43:28 PM PST by MikefromOhio (The Pot is complaining about the Kettle's complexion....)
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To: Jean B

Settling an old grudge, eh? :-)


45 posted on 01/24/2006 7:45:07 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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