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Townhall.com (via NealsNuz) ^ | 9-15-2004 | Mike S. Adams

Posted on 09/15/2004 7:02:08 AM PDT by heckler

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To: heckler
Nightline did a segment last week on the assault weapons ban with fully automatic weapons blazing in the background, nearly drowning out the voice of Ted Koppel (that wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing). Such weapons have nothing to do with the 1994 ban. In fact, they have been banned since 1934.

That's not correct, but it might as well be. With the '84 restrictions on them, you have to be Bill Gates to afford one even if you wanted to jump through the NFA hoops.

21 posted on 09/15/2004 7:45:15 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Damn! Looks like I picked the wrong week to give up gardening.


22 posted on 09/15/2004 7:45:19 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: heckler
All I know is that I'm starting to lose my voice from the near-constant explainations I'm dishing out to panicked people who blame me personally for endangering their lives with my support of the AWB sunset.

The misinformation being spewed forth by the media (including FOX), Kerry, and every other outlet with an agenda is criminal, IMHO.

23 posted on 09/15/2004 7:56:49 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Happiness Is A Silent Blissninny)
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To: Tax-chick

Miller has been anti-gun all along, so where's the surprise? Changing party affiliation is easy.


24 posted on 09/15/2004 7:57:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm ALL FOR Global Warming!!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

For me, the surprise is Mike Adams' acting so naive. Maybe he thinks newscasters are a different class from the academics about whom he usually writes?


25 posted on 09/15/2004 7:58:58 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: Tax-chick

They are.... they're even lower. They mislead thousands/millions at one time and don't charge admission.


26 posted on 09/15/2004 8:05:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm ALL FOR Global Warming!!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Good point.


27 posted on 09/15/2004 8:07:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: NavVet

"Just what you see on the rack, buddy."


28 posted on 09/15/2004 8:20:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: BadAndy

Don't you mean "spitwad shooter"?


29 posted on 09/15/2004 8:20:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: heckler

I'd like a nickel for every time these so-called experts, reporters, politicians and police chiefs use the term 'clips' to refer to 'magazines'.

In my mind, I tune out anyone using that term to discuss the AWB as unqualified to speak on the issue.


30 posted on 09/15/2004 8:21:08 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I'll bet that at least 4 of those deaths had nothing to do with gunfire.


31 posted on 09/15/2004 8:22:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I'll bet that at least 4 of those deaths had nothing to do with gunfire.

More like donut-clogged arteries.

They do count that.

32 posted on 09/15/2004 8:44:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: heckler

The Preamble to the Bill of Rights





Effective December 15, 1791
Articles in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

PREAMBLE
The conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution.





33 posted on 09/15/2004 8:52:10 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: heckler
Here's some counter-propaganda:

The Second Amendment - Commentaries

34 posted on 09/15/2004 9:06:20 AM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: Joe Brower

Joe keep me on any RKBA and pro-gun lists that you have ~ Thanks!

Be Ever Vigilant!


35 posted on 09/15/2004 10:45:16 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: heckler

"when a terrorist goes to a gun show somewhere in America"

And wants to purchase an AK-47 or a Boeing 767..........

It seems like the last attack we had was with airplanes.


36 posted on 09/15/2004 10:56:21 AM PDT by cowboyway (My Hero's have always been cowboys.)
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bttt


37 posted on 09/15/2004 1:55:58 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: heckler
Unfortunately, on September 13, Dennis Miller joined in with all the other misinformed media elites, saying that we need to keep “machine guns” in the hands of our soldiers, not in the hands of our citizens

He needs to reread the second amendment. The right of the people to keep and bear military (IE. militia) arms is exactly what it protects. The courts have ruled in that in other places where the words "the people" are used in the Constitution, it means *more* than just citizens. It also includes other legal residents.

38 posted on 09/15/2004 2:01:47 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: jcb8199
What is a good resource I can use to rebut those claims?

The law itself. Title 18 section 922 contain most of the firearms law. Here's a link

922 (v)(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to manufacture, transfer, or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon.
( The definitions are in section 921)

(30) The term ''semiautomatic assault weapon'' means -
(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as -
(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
(iv) Colt AR-15;
(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
(vii) Steyr AUG;
(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of -
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(iii) a bayonet mount;
(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel
designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and
(v) a grenade launcher;

(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of -
(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or
completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;
(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and
(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and

(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of -
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.

The law banned "semiautomatic assault weapons", not machine guns or fully automatic weapons of any kind. BATFE refers to them as SAWs. BATFE has a blurb on their page at www.atf.gov

39 posted on 09/15/2004 2:16:06 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: heckler
UZI's Ak-47's are old stuff.

I'd love the P-90 that those folks use on Stargate SG-1 though that is 10+y.o. stuff.

If I could get my hands on stuff then I'd get the new Israeli Tavor rifle, its one very sweet piece I hear.

40 posted on 09/15/2004 4:01:03 PM PDT by prophetic (Dems investigate for pre 9/11intel - but now we've LOTS of Intel and they claim politics)
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