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Australian Election
vanity | 9th October 2004 | naturalman1975

Posted on 10/09/2004 12:47:55 AM PDT by naturalman1975

I hesitate to suggest this, as I am fairly new around here, but I have noticed that there is quite a lot of interest in the Australian eleciton, so I thought I would make an offer here. I will be watching the election coverage and if people are interested, as the coverage proceeds, I can post updates in this thread, so people can follow what is happening in Australia.

Just an offer. Coverage starts in 15 minutes.

Oh and if any other Aussies want to post updates as well, of course, I wouldn't object. It's just I can see interest.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: australia; coalitionofwilling; elections; howard; johnhoward; napalminthemorning; parliament; wot
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To: All

I'm going to have to start checking Dunkley - the current sitting member is a friend of mine, and I have no idea how he's going.


121 posted on 10/09/2004 2:35:29 AM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: zeppenwolf
Is it the *combined* National & Liberal seats of 76 that we're looking for?

Precisely. 150 total seats. 76 and the Coalition keeps control.

122 posted on 10/09/2004 2:36:06 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: zeppenwolf
Is 76 like our 'needed electoral votes'? Is it the *combined* National & Liberal seats of 76 that we're looking for?

Yes, if you think of it as similar to needed electoral votes, you're on the right track. If we definitely get 76, we've won. We want more - it's easier to govern with more. But 76 will do.

And yes, National is just as good as Liberal. 76 total.

123 posted on 10/09/2004 2:37:01 AM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: ozguy

Japanese PM took a hit, but still won. But this is the most important in terms of visibility that the press was hyping up all during the week.


124 posted on 10/09/2004 2:37:43 AM PDT by Pikamax
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To: ozguy

Just being announced on Channel Nine now that "the show is over, John Howard has been relected and 7/8 seat gain by Liberals"


125 posted on 10/09/2004 2:37:53 AM PDT by ozguy
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To: naturalman1975
Official Australian Electorial Commission tally

Seats needed to win government: 76

Lib/Nat: 55

ALP: 32 (sorry, fat fingered it)

Ind: 3

swing to Lib/Nat of 2.33%

126 posted on 10/09/2004 2:38:10 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today’s.)
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Channel 9 calling it for the Coalition. ABC not quite there yet.


127 posted on 10/09/2004 2:38:55 AM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: naturalman1975
It's all over.

No way Labor are going to win from here.

I'm in Hindmarsh which is a very marginal Liberal seat. Haven't seen any figures yet. Good luck for Dunckey mate!

128 posted on 10/09/2004 2:39:07 AM PDT by Piefloater
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To: naturalman1975

Official Australian Electorial Commission tally

Seats needed to win government: 76

Lib/Nat: 58

ALP: 38

Ind: 3

swing to Lib/Nat of 2.23%


129 posted on 10/09/2004 2:39:40 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today’s.)
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To: ozguy

Sweet. I saw that ABC had projected that Howard would retain his seat on their website.


130 posted on 10/09/2004 2:40:08 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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First Labor Member has conceded defeat in their seat (Member for Bass)


131 posted on 10/09/2004 2:40:46 AM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: zeppenwolf; GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

This is for the House of Representative seats (the lower house of Parliament of Australia). Whoever can win a majority of support forms government. There is also an upper house, the Senate, whose 1/3 of seats are up for election tonight (it is like the US Senate). The Senate can block any bills passed in the House of Reps and they did bring down a government before, in 1975 (and it was the only truly left-wing government Australia ever had! Gough Whitlam of Labor.). Tonight it seems even the Senate race tilts into the Coalition's favour.


132 posted on 10/09/2004 2:40:49 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (Controversially right-wing by NZ standards: unashamedly pro-conservative-America)
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To: Piefloater

Yes! Congrates to the Aussies! Looks like Kerry's sister had no effect there! Now, all we have to do is worry about is the Kerry here in the States.


133 posted on 10/09/2004 2:41:04 AM PDT by Simmy2.5 (Kerry served in Vietnam. Really. Just as the Swift Boat Vets.)
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COALITION VICTORY - 95% CERTAIN


134 posted on 10/09/2004 2:41:31 AM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: NZerFromHK

What's the current makeup of the Senate? Pro-coalition also?

Also, is there some sort of instant runoff system in Australia? I see a primary and then a preferences poll in the same result fields for each seat.


135 posted on 10/09/2004 2:42:36 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: naturalman1975

Official Australian Electorial Commission tally

Seats needed to win government: 76

Lib/Nat: 61

ALP: 40

Ind: 3

swing to Lib/Nat of 2.26%


136 posted on 10/09/2004 2:43:03 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today’s.)
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Nothing is absolutely certain yet, and will not be for some hours. Latham will delay conceding until he has no choice (quite properly - we don't want a situation like occurred in the US in 2000), but it's looking nearly impossible for Labor.


137 posted on 10/09/2004 2:43:11 AM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: naturalman1975
Just got a yahoo alert on my phone, they're calling it for Howard and the Liberals. Thank God. Now I can call my aussie cousin in Westchester and tell her she was dead wrong. One year out of Australia and she no longer can gauge aussie politics.


FREEPER (PARodrig) PAUL RODRIGUEZ FOR CONGRESS

138 posted on 10/09/2004 2:44:12 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: naturalman1975

Official Australian Electorial Commission tally

Seats needed to win government: 76

Lib/Nat: 62

ALP: 41

Ind: 3

swing to Lib/Nat of 2.%


139 posted on 10/09/2004 2:44:37 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today’s.)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

Yes, we have preferential instant/runoff voting.

The Senate is split - it's likely to still be split. We can deal with that.

We'll start looking at the Senate later - it's important, but not as important as the House.


140 posted on 10/09/2004 2:44:55 AM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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