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Marines Await Orders to Attack Fallujah
Washington Post ^ | 10/29/04 | Jackie Spinner

Posted on 10/29/2004 9:07:32 PM PDT by TexKat

Edited on 10/29/2004 10:04:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq, Oct. 29 -- U.S. Marines are preparing for a decisive battle in the Sunni Triangle area west of Baghdad, where rebels are using violence and intimidation to extend their influence out from the city of Fallujah, senior commanders said Friday.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dennisjhejlik; fallujah; gasmaskdrill; iraq; marines; napalminthemorning; ramadi; wot
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To: beaversmom

You're welcome. And tell Michael that the enemy in America are Communists, as his guest, Richard Dreyfus, admitted today (Progressive, which we all know is code for Communist in Hollweird) on his show...and I would slap Richard Dreyfus for the wussy, huffy, elitist, pig Communist bit*h that he really is btw.


51 posted on 10/29/2004 9:57:34 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: TexKat
Here's another good one. Edwards vs. Bush Primping
52 posted on 10/29/2004 10:05:52 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: TexKat

Since when does a CIC put "pressure" on the military to get the military to do what he wants?

A CIC is in the chain of command and can give orders -- from the top.

53 posted on 10/29/2004 10:08:48 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: TexKat

We are tired of waiting! It is time to close in and DESTROY the enemy!

If some reporters, LAWYERS, activist judges, and politicians (especially some from NY and MASS and other NE states) just happen to be in between ... GREAT! FIRE!!!


54 posted on 10/29/2004 10:11:29 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: Royal Wulff

U.S. President George W. Bush attends a campaign election rally with California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in Columbus Ohio, October 29, 2004. Bush is campaigning in New Hampshire and Ohio today in the run up to the November 2 presidential election.

55 posted on 10/29/2004 10:13:27 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: spectr17

Hammer down now!
Election be damned!

Landslide.


56 posted on 10/29/2004 10:14:13 PM PDT by DonnerT (Terrorists,,,Kerrorists, what's the difference?)
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To: TexKat
God Speed to our brave warriors and courageous allies.

Do not let the scorn of a politician weaken your resolve.

57 posted on 10/29/2004 10:17:50 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (I'm not so sure it's credible to quote leading news organizations about --oh,nevermind.-GWB)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Go US MARINES !

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.I heard Dreyfuss getting his butt kicked by the callers and he couldn't even swing back once, he never got up again, they hauled the fag out on a stretcher. Bush speaks in a few minutes on fox NOW, right after stupinegger shuts up

58 posted on 10/29/2004 10:20:13 PM PDT by Freesofar ( vote for one----Our Troops (Bush)-- or ---Al Qaeda( Kerry))
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To: Freesofar

Right on, right on and RIGHT ON!

Up to speed me on what Bush says, IF you would please FRiend!

This post is now governated...lol


59 posted on 10/29/2004 10:22:28 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: TexKat

An unnamed source tells he Post that the Council issued a fatwa. Isn't a fatwa a public decree? This sounds like a rather meek way of doing it, or maybe they didn't even issue a fatwa.


60 posted on 10/29/2004 10:27:49 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: TexKat

This one will be for all the marbles.

God be with you guys, on what will be the most important month of your life.

Faith guys.


61 posted on 10/29/2004 10:28:19 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: Finalapproach29er

Bump.


62 posted on 10/29/2004 10:29:38 PM PDT by jokar (On line data base http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/index.htm)
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63 posted on 10/29/2004 10:30:37 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: FreeReign
fatwa

fatwa, fatthis, fatthat. Bring it on islamic suckers. Come out of the cracks and crevices, come out of you holes and get ya fatwa on.

64 posted on 10/29/2004 10:37:29 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: FreeReign
fatwa

fatwa, fatthis, fatthat. Bring it on islamic suckers. Come out of the cracks and crevices, come out of you holes and get ya fatwa on.

65 posted on 10/29/2004 10:37:53 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

"Unleash hell. That is all."


66 posted on 10/29/2004 10:40:03 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

I wouldn't be surprised if Bush doesn't give the "go" signal as soon as Monday or on Tuesday (election day) itself. Why not? Sounds good to me. Get election day off to a roaring start.


67 posted on 10/29/2004 10:43:16 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: All
Goodnight all

Pray for the all members of the coaliton.

God bless Freepers. God bless the President, and may God continue to bless the US.

A U.S. Marine from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment grimaces on patrol in Ramadi, Iraq, Tuesday Oct. 26, 2004. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)

68 posted on 10/29/2004 11:03:28 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Spanaway Lori
Go get 'em guys! And may God watch over you and protect you. I pray for you every day.- Me too!
69 posted on 10/30/2004 2:47:38 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: frossca

LOL! and probably true!


70 posted on 10/30/2004 2:49:15 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: TexKat

Terrorists, get afraid, your candidate, Fallujah John, won't be elected.

May God bless the brave men and women in uniform and the Commander-in-Chief.


71 posted on 10/30/2004 2:52:48 AM PDT by Reader of news
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To: M Kehoe
"This will be directed by the interim Iraqi government," Hejlik said during a briefing with reporters. "They are calling the shots."

I don't like that at all.


The 'interim Iraqi government' is our sock puppet. Our hand is all the way up and in. When they 'call a shot,' they will be calling a shot that we told them to call.

That's as it should be. When they can actually do the shoting themselves, then they can call their own shots.
72 posted on 10/30/2004 3:13:26 AM PDT by jaykay (Are we there yet?)
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To: ApesForEvolution; airborne
8 Marines Dead in Iraq; Car Bomb Kills 7

By RAWYA RAGEH, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Eight American Marines were killed in fighting west of Baghdad on Saturday, the military's bloodiest day in nearly six months. A car bomb killed at least seven people in attack on an Arab television network in the capital, and Iraqi troops fired wildly on civilian vehicles, killing at least 14 people, witnesses and hospital officials said.

The U.S. military said nine Marines were also wounded in the fighting in Anbar province west of the capital which includes the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah. The statement gave no further on how or where they were killed.

It was the most U.S. deaths on a single day since May 2, when nine U.S. troops died in separate mortar attacks and roadside bombings in Baghdad, Ramadi and Kirkuk.

The deaths came as U.S. forces are gearing up for a major assault on Fallujah, seen as the toughest bastion of Sunni Muslim guerrillas, ahead of crucial elections due by Jan. 31.

Fierce clashes erupted Saturday in Fallujah as an American military convoy entered the southeastern industrial Shuhada neighborhood and nearby Nueimiya village — an apparent probing foray on the city's edges. Explosions and gunfire rocked the area and smoke was seen billowing in the air, witnesses said.

Marines responded with heavy artillery fire after insurgents shot mortar shells from positions in the southeast of the city. About 4 p.m. a Marine Harrier jet bombed a mortar position inside Fallujah and strafed it with machine-gun fire, "neutralizing the target and any threat," said Marine spokesman 1st Lt. Lyle Gilbert.

In Baghdad, the car bomb blasted the offices of the Al-Arabiya television network in the upscale Mansour neighborhood, killing seven people and wounding 19, according to police and hospital officials.

Three bodies, including one of a woman, were mutilated beyond recognition, said Al-Arabiya correspondent Najwa Qassem. She said they could not tell if any of the three bodies were those of Al-Arabiya employees. However, she confirmed that one guard and one administration worker were among the dead.

The blast collapsed the first floor of the building, where staffers were holding a meeting, said Saad al-Husseini, a correspondent of MBC, a sister channel of Al-Arabiya based in the same building.

Employees "were trapped between fire and the shattering shards of glass," he said. That "led to the high number of casualties. We were all there."

A militant group calling itself the "1920 Brigades" claimed responsibility for the attack, blasting Al-Arabiya as "Americanized spies speaking in Arabic tongue" in a statement posted on the Web.

"We have threatened them to no avail that they are the mouthpiece of the American occupation in Iraq (news - web sites)," the statement said. It warned of more attacks against this "treacherous network." It was impossible to verify the claim's authenticity.

The group said Elie Nakouzi — the Christian Lebanese anchor who presents the TV program "From Iraq" — is No. 1 on their hit list. Nakouzi used to present the program from the network's offices in Baghdad before he was relocated to their studios in Dubai amid fears he would be targeted.

Meanwhile, south of Baghdad, witnesses said Iraqi forces opened fire randomly and threw handgrenades, hitting three minibuses and three vans, after a U.S. convoy came under attack Saturday

Abdul Razzaq al-Janabi, director of Iskandariyah General Hospital, said 14 people were killed and 10 others injured. More wounded were taken to other hospitals.

Footage by Associated Press Television News showed bloody bodies riddled with bullet holes inside the buses and on the street near the town of Haswa, about 25 miles south of the capital. Blood and gas was trickling underneath the vehicles. Empty bullet cases were also scattered around.

An APTN cameraman saw at least 18 bodies, while witnesses said there were more than 20 people killed in the incident.

The footage also showed the morgue of the hospital in nearby Iskandariyah packed with bodies stacked on top of each other.

The shooting came after an American convoy was attacked early Saturday on the road, witnesses said. Al-Janabi said some of the victims told him three improvised explosive devices detonated near the U.S. convoy.

After the U.S. troops pulled out, Iraqi police and National Guards arrived on the scene and began firing wildly, the witnesses said. The U.S. military had no immediate comment.

The area is a major insurgent hotspot where ambushes and attacks against U.S. and Iraqi forces are common.

Witnesses said police also broke into the Osama bin Zayd mosque in the same area and detained its cleric and two guards.

In Baghdad Saturday, Mohammed Bashar al-Faydhi, a spokesman for the influential Association of Muslim Scholars, called for a government investigation into "this massacre, because it is a big disaster that the Iraqi policemen are carrying out such crimes."

Marines carried out a three-week siege of Fallujah in April that left hundreds dead — including civilians — angered many Iraqis and only left insurgents in tighter control of the city. The siege was launched after militants ambushed and killed four American contractors, mutilated their bodies and hung them from a bridge.

Now U.S. and Iraqi commanders are planning a new assult in a bid to tame insurgents before the elections. Up to 5,000 Islamic militants, Saddam Hussein loyalists and common criminals are hunkered down in Fallujah, U.S. officers said Friday. U.S. planners believe many of the city's 300,000 residents have already fled the city.

American officials stress that the final order to launch a big operation would come from Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi. "We're gearing up to do an operation and when we're told to go, we'll go," Brig. Gen. Dennis Hejlik, deputy commander of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, said at a camp near Fallujah. "When we do go, we'll whack them."

Also Saturday:

_ A militant group showed a kidnapped Sudanese interpreter, Noureddin Zakaria, who was working for U.S. contractor Titan Corp. in Ramadi and demanded his company leave Iraq, in a video aired on Al-Arabiya.

_ U.S. forces detained an influential Sunni leader in Baghdad, his family said. Sheik Hisham al-Duleimi, along with his son and brother-in-law, were arrested at their home, the sheik's brother Samer al-Duleimi said. The U.S. military had no comment.

_ The Bangladesh government confirmed Saturday that one of its nationals was taken hostage by militants in Iraq, officials said. Abul Kashem, 42, a truck driver who works for a Kuwaiti transport company, was abducted near a U.S. military base in Iraq last week, officials said.

8 U.S. Marines Killed, 9 Wounded in Iraq

US marines and US Army soldiers treat an injured comrade shot by a sniper in Ramadi, 100 kms west of Baghdad. Eight US marines were killed conducting security operations in an Iraqi province that is home to rebel strongholds, as five people died in the latest car bomb to rip through the heart of Baghdad.(AFP/Patrick Baz)

A US marine (R) briefs a US Army soldier taking over in Ramadi, 100 kms west of Baghdad. Eight US marines were killed conducting security operations in an Iraqi province that is home to rebel strongholds, as five people died in the latest car bomb to rip through the heart of Baghdad.(AFP/Patrick Baz)

A wounded journalist, with the Al-Arabiya TV channel, passes a U.S. Humvee vehicle following a blast at the nearby television station in the Iraqi capital Baghdad, October 30, 2004. A bomb exploded outside the office of Dubai-based Al Arabiya television in western Baghdad Saturday, wounding 16 employees, the channel said. REUTERS/Thaier Al-Sudani

Marines of the 1st Division burn their waste as they leave their temporary base for a mission outside Falludah, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004. US forces are preparing for a possible attack on the rebel stronghold of Fallujah. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

Aa Marine of the 1st Division kisses a local child before he joins a foot patrol outside Fallujah, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004. US forces are preparing for a possible attack on the rebel stronghold of Fallujah. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

Marines of the 1st Division prepare for a mission outside Fallujah, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004. US forces are preparing for a possible attack on the rebel stronghold of Fallujah. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

U.S. Marines from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment rush to defensive positions during a close-range insurgent mortar attack on their base, Combat Outpost, in Ramadi, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004. There were no U.S. casualties. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)

73 posted on 10/30/2004 9:22:41 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Iraqis gather at the scene of four burning trucks after the trucks came under attack in the northern city of Mosul, October 30, 2004. At least four trucks, carrying supplies to a nearby U.S. military base came under attack by unknown gunmen before being set ablaze on a highway in Mosul, eyewitnesses said. REUTERS/Namir Noor-Eldeen

An Iraqi youth chants anti-U.S. slogans at the scene of four burning trucks following an attack in the northern city of Mosul, October 30, 2004. At least four trucks, carrying supplies to a nearby U.S. military base came under attack by unknown gunmen before being set ablaze on a highway in Mosul, eyewitnesses said. REUTERS/Namir Noor-Eldeen

U.S. Marines from Charlie Company, second Tank Battalion check tanks and weapons ahead of an expected offensive on Iraq's rebel city of Falluja, in a U.S. Military camp near Falluja.

A U.S. Marine from Charlie Company, second Tank Battalion sits atop a vehicle with his weapons, west of Baghdad, October 30, 2004. U.S. Marines are checking tanks and weapons ahead of an expected offensive on Iraq's rebel city of Falluja.

Iraqi police officers remove the body of a civilian after he was shot by U.S. troops in central Baghdad, October 30, 2004. U.S. forces shot dead an Iraqi driver after he approached with his car towards the soldiers, who were defusing an improvised explosive device in front a hotel in central Baghdad, Iraqi police and eyewitnesses said. REUTERS/Ali Jasim

A video image aired by Arabic satellite channel Al Arabiya October 30, 2004 shows two masked men pointing rifles at a Sudanese translator, named as Noureddin Zakaria, taken hostage in the Iraqi rebel town of Ramadi by an Iraqi resistance group. 'The group said his employer, the American 'Titan' company, should stop its activities in Iraq and leave the country in return for his release,' the Dubai-based channel said. The company name appears to refer to the Titan Corp., which provides technology and translation services to the U.S. military. NO SALES, NO ARCHIVE, MUST SHOW ONSCREEN LOGO, MANDATORY CREDIT AL ARABIYA REUTERS/Al Arabiya via Reuters Television

U.S. Marines from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine search for a position on a supply route security mission in Ramadi, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004. Eleven roadside bombs exploded on a nearby mission Friday night, including several detonated by insurgent attackers while Marines disposed of the remainder by means of controlled demolitions. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)

U.S. Marine Sgt. Sean Riley of Orange County, CA, from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, watches over a supply route in Ramadi, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004. Eleven roadside bombs exploded on a nearby mission Friday night, including several detonated by insurgent attackers while Marines disposed of the remainder by means of controlled demolitions. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)

Smoke rises after U.S. Marines from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment disposed of a roadside bomb with a controlled explosion in Ramadi, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004. Eleven roadside bombs exploded on a nearby mission Friday night, including several detonated by insurgent attackers while Marines disposed of the remainder by means of controlled demolitions.(AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)

U.S. Marines from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment ride low in their Humvee enroute to a supply route security mission in Ramadi, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004. Eleven roadside bombs exploded on a nearby mission Friday night, including several detonated by insurgent attackers while Marines disposed of the remainder by means of controlled demolitions. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)

A U.S. Marine (C) from Charlie Company, 2nd Tank Battalion, dressed as Spiderman talks with other soldiers during a Halloween event near Falluja, in western Iraq, October 30, 2004. U.S. Marines are preparing for an expected offensive on Iraq's rebel city of Falluja. REUTERS/Eliana Aponte

74 posted on 10/30/2004 10:02:56 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe; VOA

Ping


75 posted on 10/30/2004 10:09:26 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Stay safe and make every bullet count.


76 posted on 10/30/2004 10:18:39 AM PDT by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: Cee-gar Man US Marine

Marines of the 1st Division take a nap after a overnight mission outside Fallujah, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004. US forces are preparing for a possible attack on the rebel stronghold of Fallujah. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

77 posted on 10/30/2004 10:25:17 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

May God Be with them and my prayers are Incoming. I am with them all and I pray all their fire will be on target. They are the Best of the Best! God Bless them all.


78 posted on 10/30/2004 10:40:20 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 My vote goes for President Bush because he is a great leader and a good man.)
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To: BagCamAddict; ApesForEvolution; Americanwolf; Allegra; Eagle Eye; Valin; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Raw footage:

VIOLENCE PERSISTS ACROSS IRAQ

http://tv.reuters.com/ifr_main.jsp?st=1099157282514&rf=bm&mp=WMP&wmp=1&rm=1&cpf=true&fr=103004_123053_17d5d2axffe72e4c89x58e9&rdm=968154.7828471131

79 posted on 10/30/2004 10:48:11 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: JOE43270

Amen JOE43270.


80 posted on 10/30/2004 10:49:06 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Our heroes...Jesus Protect every one of them.

This family is eternally grateful for your service.


81 posted on 10/30/2004 11:14:20 AM PDT by eleni121 (: the kurds.)
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To: TexKat

BTTT!


82 posted on 10/30/2004 11:14:36 AM PDT by eleni121 (: the kurds.)
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To: Royal Wulff

Some video!...may our US heroes always have more of what they need.


83 posted on 10/30/2004 11:21:23 AM PDT by eleni121 (: the kurds.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; MEG33; mystery-ak
U.S. Pilot Recommended for Bravery Medal

By JIM KRANE, Associated Press Writer

TAJI, Iraq - An Army helicopter gunship pilot is being recommended for a bravery medal for the rescue of a pair of wounded American fliers whose helicopter crashed in hostile territory south of Baghdad this month.

Capt. Ryan Welch, 29, who co-pilots an AH-64 Apache helicopter with the 1st Cavalry Division's 4th Brigade, led a risky night mission that saw him strap himself and a wounded flier to the exterior of the two-seat gunship that flew them to safety, said 4th Brigade commander Col. Jim McConville.

Two Army pilots were killed in the Oct. 16 crash, which happened when two Army OH-58 D Kiowa helicopters collided and plummeted to a farm field just south of Baghdad's airport.

Welch, of Lebanon, N.H., said he helped rescue the wounded pair by hoisting one semiconscious man into the front seat of the Apache, and strapping the second pilot, also wounded and in shock, to the outside of the helicopter's body.

Welch said he then strapped himself to the helicopter's exterior, and the pilot, Chief Warrant Officer 2 Justin Taylor, flew the Apache about 15 miles to an Army combat support hospital.

McConville, 45, of Quincy, Mass., said another pair of Taji-based Army fliers also are being considered for medals for their role in the Aug. 8 rescue of two other Kiowa pilots whose craft was downed during pitched fighting in Baghdad's Sadr City.

Those fliers, CW3 Steve Wells, 38, of Lampasas, Texas, and CW2 Jamie Stepan, 31, of Killeen, Texas, fired rockets that fended off a hostile crowd and killed Shiite fighters converging on the upturned helicopter, after it was shot down by a rocket-propelled grenade.

"It took an RPG to the tail boom, spun around and landed upside down," McConville said of the downed Kiowa.

The rescuing pilots landed their Kiowa chopper on a street adjacent to the crash site — taking fire as they did — in an attempt to rescue the downed fliers. The two men ended up running off being rescued by nearby U.S. ground troops, also with the 1st Cavalry Division, McConville said.

None of the medals has been awarded yet.

The Army is still investigating whether hostile fire was involved in the Oct. 16 collision that killed pilots Capt. Chris Johnson, 29, of Excelsior Springs, Mo., and CW3 William Brennan, 37, of Bethlehem, Conn.

Those injured were CW2 Chad Beck of Killeen, Texas, and CW2 Greg Crowe of Florence, Ky. Beck and Crowe are currently on leave, McConville said.

Welch, interviewed in a repair hangar on this base 12 miles north of Baghdad, said he and Taylor picked up a distress call as they flew over south Baghdad in search of insurgents teams that fire nightly mortar and rocket barrages at U.S. bases.

"We heard a distressed voice on the air, it said 'I've got two helicopters down. Two KIA,'" Welch said.

The voice belonged to Beck, who made the call from his emergency radio and had triggered the rescue beacon on his flight vest, after he and Crowe walked away from the burning wreckage of their Kiowa. The surrounding farmland is a frequent launch site for insurgents' mortar attacks on Baghdad International Airport.

Welch and Taylor, 28, of Lodi, Calif., found the burning helicopter and circled the wreckage.

The emergency radio crackled again: "Hey you just overflew me. Can you see my strobe?"

It was Beck again, and Welch said he looked out the window and saw a blinking light about 100 yards from the burning helicopter.

Welch and Taylor landed in an adjacent field and radioed to Beck to meet them at the landing zone. Beck radioed back that Crowe was too hurt to walk. So Welch dashed to the crash site and found the two crash victims. The dead pilots lay nearby, in their crashed Kiowa.

Crowe was sitting in a daze, waving a pistol, not talking. Beck was standing quietly, staring off into the distance.

"They were both in the early stages of shock," Welch said. "Their eyes were glazed over. Their faces were bleeding profusely."

Welch said he and Beck were able to help Crowe to the Apache and hoist him into the front pilot's seat. But as a two-seater, the only way to carry passengers on an Apache is to seat them on an exterior fender-like protuberance and strap them to a handhold.

Welch strapped Beck to one side and himself to the other, Taylor lifted off and the two Apaches flew to Camp Ferrin-Huggins, seeing the headlights of U.S. ground troops that collected the dead pilots and the wrecked helicopters.

Welch described the ride as "like driving a motorcycle 90 mph without a helmet."

"It felt like my nostrils were going to tear," he said.

84 posted on 10/30/2004 11:51:16 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
TK, this is the reason that Americans and the Coalition of the Wonderful and Brave are willing to die, our very best, bravest and brightest - fathers, daughters, sons, brothers, uncles, grandpas - as if this precious little creature of God, this little girl, was our very own. Lord knows, our warriors have left some little boys and girls of our own while daddys were fighting for someone else's. And I'm thinking about the NYPD and NYFD in particular today.



Lord Jesus Bless America and OUR TROOPS!

85 posted on 10/30/2004 1:31:12 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Pylon

Padre Captain Mark Grant-Jones (bottom L) gives a service to B Company of Britain's First Queen Dragoon Guards at the Shaibah Base in Basra southern Iraq, October 30, 2004. The Company were on Saturday preparing to move out to give support to Britain's Black Watch regiment at Camp Dogwood, a military industrial complex 20 miles (32Km) west of the town of Mahmudiya, which lies 50Km south of Baghdad. REUTERS/Maurice McDonald/Pool

A British re-supply convoy moves out of the Shaibah base in Basra, southern Iraq, October 30, 2004. A British soldier died in a road accident on Friday as the Black Watch regiment re-based to 'the triangle of death' southwest of Baghdad to free up U.S. units preparing for a major assault to capture the rebel towns of Ramadi and Falluja. REUTERS/Maurice McDonald/Pool

86 posted on 10/30/2004 1:56:21 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

There is only one word to sum all this up....Guts!


87 posted on 10/30/2004 2:05:32 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: TexKat

God Bless these brave young men. This could be the defining moment of this war-even more than capturing Sadam and waisting his vile spawn.


88 posted on 10/30/2004 2:10:56 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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British Royal Marines operating near Baghdad. A battle group of British soldiers will start patrolling a restive region south of Baghdad after a mortar exploded in their new camp overnight, without causing any casualties, a spokesman said.(AFP/Maurice McDonald)

British troops set up camp in new hostile region of Iraq

BAGHDAD (AFP) - A battle group of British soldiers settled into a restive region south of Baghdad after a mortar exploded in their new camp overnight, with their first patrols expected in the coming days, a spokesman said.

The Black Watch regiment, however, suffered its first victims of the US requested mission to move in to Babil province from the relative calm of southern Iraq, with the death of a soldier in a vehicle accident on Friday that left three others wounded.

The last of some 850 Black Watch troops and support personnel arrived in Camp Dogwood on Friday afternoon, freeing up US soldiers, who had been based there, to tackle other insurgent hotspots.

"Today they did not go out on patrol as they spent their time setting up camp, sorting out force protection, laying out supplies, food rations, things like that," said British military spokesman Major Charles Mayo.

Earlier, he had said the troops would start conducting vehicle and foot patrols in the coming days to learn about their new environment, which is far more hostile than down south where Britain's 8,500-strong contingent is based.

Mayo, however, said later in the day that this would take place once they had organized themselves.

"It is part of the settling in process they have got to get to know the local area, get a feel for it," explained Mayo, talking by telephone from Iraq's second city of Basra, where the British army is headquartered.

Camp Dogwood -- a vast area with a perimeter of some 40 kilometres (26 miles) -- lies to the west of rebel town of Mahmudiyah which is part of a so-called "triangle of death" along with Latifiyah and Iskandariyah in Babil province.

In a rude awakening on their first full-night together in Babil, a mortar round crashed into the base without causing any casualties or damage, said Mayo, noting that the sheer size of the camp and the small area the British troops occupied in it meant they had not been in any real danger.

The touring British troops also struck a roadside bomb during their long journey from Basra the previous day, which again caused no serious harm, but slowed the progress of the convoy.

US soldiers helped to secure the route for the British tanks, Land Rovers and other army vehicles, which departed Basra on Wednesday.

They found and unarmed three other bombs left by the roadside, said Mayo.

The Black Watch will fill a gap left by US troops departing to fight insurgents around the restive Sunni bastion of Fallujah west of Baghdad.

On Wednesday, Prime Minister Tony Blair promised that the regiment would be home by Christmas, but left open the possibility that other British troops may have to replace them.

The redeployment came amid uncertainties over the fate of a British-Iraqi aid worker, Margaret Hassan, who was kidnapped in Baghdad on October 19.

Hassan, 59, has twice pleaded with Britons to urge London not to redeploy its soldiers on videotape broadcast Arabic television.

89 posted on 10/30/2004 2:34:08 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Neighbors look into the crater in front of a house in Fallujah, Iraq Saturday, Oct. 30, 2004, which was destroyed the night before by a U.S. airstrike. American forces launched airstrikes against suspected militant bases in Fallujah, Iraq and carried out probing attacks on the city's outskirts, as they prepared for a major operation in the insurgent bastion that has become the symbol of Iraqi resistance.(AP Photo/Mohammed Khodor)

90 posted on 10/30/2004 6:49:46 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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A US Marine of the 1st Division gestures during a patrol outside Fallujah, Iraq, Sunday, Oct. 31, 2004. American forces are preparing for a major assault on Fallujah in an effort to restore control to a swathe of Sunni Muslim towns north and west of the capital ahead of crucial national elections due by Jan. 31. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

A US Marine of the 1st Division shaves after moving in into a new base outside Fallujah, Iraq, Sunday, Oct. 31, 2004. American forces are preparing for a major assault on Fallujah in an effort to restore control to a swath of Sunni Muslim towns north and west of the capital ahead of crucial national elections due by Jan. 31. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

US Marines of the 1st Division play chess after returning back from their outpost outside Fallujah, Iraq, Sunday, Oct. 31, 2004. American forces are preparing for a major assault on Fallujah in an effort to restore control to a swath of Sunni Muslim towns north and west of the capital ahead of crucial national elections due by Jan. 31. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

A US Marine of the 1st Division rests after an overnight mission outside Fallujah, Iraq, Sunday, Oct. 31, 2004. American forces are preparing for a major assault on Fallujah in an effort to restore control to a swath of Sunni Muslim towns north and west of the capital ahead of crucial national elections due by Jan. 31. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

U.S. Marines from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment patrol in Ramadi, Iraq, Sunday, Oct. 31, 2004. One Marine was killed and three others injured by a roadside bomb Sunday in Ramadi, and hospital officials said seven more people were killed and 11 injured in clashes between insurgents and U.S. forces. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)

U.S. Marine snipers from the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment setup for a rooftop operation in Ramadi, Iraq, Sunday, Oct. 31, 2004. One Marine was killed and three others injured by a roadside bomb Sunday in Ramadi, and hospital officials said seven more people were killed and 11 injured in clashes between insurgents and U.S. forces. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)

U.S. Marine Infantrymen from 3rd battalion, Fifth Marines, patrol during training near Falluja in western Iraq, October 31, 2004. U.S. Marines in a tank battalion, backed by infantry, are training for an offensive on Falluja in an unfamiliar urban battleground after sweeping through open spaces in the 2003 Iraq war. REUTERS/Eliana Aponte

US marines from 2/5 Marine transport an injured comrade into a Chinook helicopter in Ramadi, 100kms west of Baghdad. Deadly fighting erupted in a restive Iraqi province where nine marines were killed a day earlier, as Japan vowed to stand firm with its troops in Iraq despite the beheading of a Japanese tourist.(AFP/Patrick Baz)

US Army soldiers from the 2nd Infantry Division patrol the restive Iraqi city of Ramadi. Nine US marines were killed and nine others injured in Iraq's rebel heartlands while conducting "increased security operations", according to a new toll issued by the US army. AFP PHOTO/Patrick BAZ(AFP/Patrick Baz)

A US marine (L) and a US Army soldier man their position on the rooftop of a hotel in Ramadi, 100 kms west of Baghdad. Eight US marines were killed conducting security operations in the Iraqi province that is home to rebel strongholds.(AFP/Patrick

91 posted on 10/31/2004 8:54:08 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: sono; Gibtx; pissant; anonymoussierra; Wneighbor; GW and Twins Pawpaw

Fallujah, Ramadi ping


92 posted on 10/31/2004 8:59:14 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Thank you be strong America good country!!!!


93 posted on 10/31/2004 9:02:27 AM PST by anonymoussierra
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To: ApesForEvolution

"And tell Michael that the enemy in America are Communists" that is good what you write I do not know America person know comunist I do know comunist it is evil not good!!Thank you


94 posted on 10/31/2004 9:05:38 AM PST by anonymoussierra
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To: anonymoussierra
Raw footage.

US POUNDS FALLUJAH TARGETS

http://tv.reuters.co.uk/ifr_main.jsp?st=1099242097204&rf=bm&mp=WMP&wmp=1&rm=1&cpf=true&fr=103104_011308_17d5d2axffeac92f6ex3196&rdm=117249.10655503829

95 posted on 10/31/2004 9:18:00 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; B4Ranch; paulcissa; MinuteGal; JOE43270; hershey; mcshot; null and void; TeddyCon; ...

Fallujah, Ramadi ping


96 posted on 10/31/2004 9:24:10 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dubya's fan

The terrorists just don't get have we have the capability to turn Iraq into an ocean of green glass within the span of a few minutes. Oh, well!!


97 posted on 10/31/2004 9:24:46 AM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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A handout photograph shows Britain's Major Robin Lindsay (L) and the Commanding Officer of Britain's Black Watch Lieutenant Colonel James Cowan (2nd L) inspecting the remains of a vehicle bomb near the village of Abd Al Karim Farah, south of Baghdad, October 31, 2004. Military sources said there were no casualties in the vehicle bombing on Sunday. British troops took up new positions in an area near Baghdad dubbed the triangle of death on Thursday, freeing up U.S. units for an offensive expected soon against the rebel-held Iraqi city of Falluja. REUTERS/Giles Penfound/MoD/Handout

98 posted on 10/31/2004 9:28:31 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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US Marines of the 1st Division prepare for a patrol outside Fallujah, Iraq, Sunday, Oct. 31, 2004. American forces are preparing for a major assault on Fallujah in an effort to restore control to a swath of Sunni Muslim towns north and west of the capital ahead of crucial national elections due by Jan. 31. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

99 posted on 10/31/2004 9:31:22 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat; All; Wneighbor

Thank you that is good good America strong atack devil lucifer evil persons!!!!


100 posted on 10/31/2004 9:34:50 AM PST by anonymoussierra
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