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Navy Chief Announces: NO ANTI-KERRY RALLY IN D.C. TOMORROW (10/31/04)
SBVT Forum ^ | saturday, October 30, 2004 | Kristinn

Posted on 10/30/2004 9:36:18 AM PDT by kristinn

After getting folks all across the country on Free Republic and blogland excited and raring to go to D.C. for some reason or another having to do with John Kerry, Navy Chief has announced a NO GO.

From the Swiftee's discussion forum:

NavyChief
Expert Member
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 595
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:23 pm    Post subject:

------------------------------------------------------------------------ I have been asked by the highest authorities (No -- I will not expound) to not hold this Rally.

Although our actions and intent has been nothing but honorable, this effort will not serve our purposes.

My sincerest apologies for this but I must ask that we stand down...

I certainly hope the "highest authorities" know what they are doing and I don't like this anymore than anyone else but I must ask you to stand down.

We can however, return to our previous effort in getting the truth to media outlets, Congress, and other influencial organizations.

This was a great idea and I'm very disappointed -- I hope you will forgive me for this. I'm assured that all will be clear in time (yeah right).

- Troy Jenkins (aka "Navy Chief")

_________________ Working with Senator Kerry four years in the POW/MIA Office left me thinking -- when did the man ever do any work?


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To: Nov3
Troy Jenkins was hired by the SwiftVets to do their ressearch. "Unfit for Command" is based largely on his research. The Swiftvets are full of $#!T if Troy Jenkins is full of $#!T.

And why isn't he listed on the book then? I'm looking at the book right this minute and he's not even mentioned.

Don't try to link the mess this guy has made to the Swift Vets.

281 posted on 10/30/2004 12:27:36 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Howlin

Why should John O'Neill say anything about a rally, Howlin? It wasn't a Swiftvet sponsored rally!


282 posted on 10/30/2004 12:29:14 PM PDT by MistyCA (Sign the Form 180, Kerry!)
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To: MistyCA
They hate him. With good reason!

Well said Misty. I can't begin to list the reasons I despise John Kerry, and although I didn't follow politics/politicians closely until, say, the early 80's or so, his treasonous behavior, that's exposed by this election, just adds another to the list.

FGS

283 posted on 10/30/2004 12:29:24 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Howlin

True enough, it was Corsi who was the researcher, expert on Vietnam and co-author.


284 posted on 10/30/2004 12:29:59 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk, since NC posted the news and rally information and the Swifty site has much support here, it is not unreasonable to ask him to come here and answer a few questions. I wouldn't be surprised he if didn't, but it isn't out of line.

My suggestion is people back off on the invective some. NC might have jumped the gun but he is not an enemy. I will say I am little concerned about him going off on his own with a press conference and/or rally without checking with O'Neill or Hoffman (if that is what happened), but we've seen that kind of thing happen here on FR about a thousand times.


285 posted on 10/30/2004 12:30:02 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: kingattax
this would have been gravy,but we are in great shape even without it..GO GW

I feel confident as well.

286 posted on 10/30/2004 12:30:03 PM PDT by SheLion ( Rove knew that sKerry was a man that stood for nothing and therefore would fall for anything.)
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To: Howlin
John O'Neill has his reasons. Perhaps it's because he knows that it's too late for it to have anything other than a blowback effect due to the distortions of the media.

To me, it is obvious that Kerry got an Other Than Honorable Discharge, but he has worked hard to hide it from the public. Even though the Sec. of Navy admitted it to NavyChief or someone else, he may not be willing to go on record. To get proof, someone would have to release Kerry's sealed records from the Navy, and military guys have a code of ethics and conducts alot higher than the DNC.

Perhaps the truth will come out eventually, but it doesn't matter at this point because Bush is going to win BIG. I'm just amazed that nobody from the MSM has been willing to even ask Kerry anything about Vietnam.

287 posted on 10/30/2004 12:30:22 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: MistyCA
Just to put an emphasis on what you said, my husband refused to vote for years after Vietnam!

A lot of folks on this forum do not seem to understand what went on in Vietnam. Tell your husband that he and his fellow soldiers are the ones that I will be saluting Tuesday night. I have NO doubt that Kerry would have stood a significant chance of victory without them. They have served their country proud in this battle and I SALUTE them!
288 posted on 10/30/2004 12:30:45 PM PDT by politicket
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To: MistyCA
These are his own words:

I have been asked by the highest authorities (No -- I will not expound) to not hold this Rally.

And I ask you again: if the Swift Vets didn't ask him to back off, who did?

And I will point out again that EVERY SINGLE thread concerning this linked to HIS post on the Swift Boat forum; what other conclusion is a person to draw?

289 posted on 10/30/2004 12:32:20 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: landerwy

You might be right. Personally I think it would have been bad to have a rally fizzle. I think NavyChief's heart was in the right place, but I don't see how it would have worked out to benefit anyone. Oh, but I really want his information to get out into the public SOMEHOW! I am as frustrated as everyone else that we sit on this pile of crap and half the country is completely ignorant about the facts. Kerry does not deserve to be in contention for CIC.


290 posted on 10/30/2004 12:33:05 PM PDT by MistyCA (Sign the Form 180, Kerry!)
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To: Cold Heat

There are some really wild claims being made here.

Researcher do NOT work without being given credit.


291 posted on 10/30/2004 12:33:39 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Howlin

Troy Jenkins is in one of the mini-movies that the SwiftVets released this week (it is the 4th one I think called No Man Left Behind). Watch it and you'll see. I don't think Jenkins did any research for the book, but he did start doing alot of research (almost full time) in August and September at the Vietnam Archives at Texas Tech in Lubbock. He had his expenses paid by the SwiftVets, but that is all. He also had the SwiftVets provide him with an assistant to help go thru the Archives. I don't know him, so I'm just telling you what I've read about him on the SwiftVets forums and from an interview with him on someones weblog.


292 posted on 10/30/2004 12:33:58 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: SheLion

LOL...nice eyes


293 posted on 10/30/2004 12:34:10 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: Howlin
Thanks Howlin- that does help to make sense of this. I still have a bit of a fever.. I could not get my head around this story. ;}
294 posted on 10/30/2004 12:34:52 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (God bless the Swift Boat Vets!)
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To: kristinn

Sounds like Bush/Karl Rove finally intervened.


295 posted on 10/30/2004 12:35:05 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: MistyCA
There is no law stopping NC and the posters at that site having a rally, but if they are going to use it unveil new information that is central to the theme the Swifties have been tirelessly getting out for six months, it would have been a good idea to run it by them to make sure there were no objections or conflicts.

Can you imagine the SWV posters having a rally that was at odds with, or worse, that O'Neill felt the need to distance the SBV's from? Can you imagine a FReeper calling an FR rally that Jim had to publically repudiate
296 posted on 10/30/2004 12:35:28 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Howlin; The Real NavyChief

".......why isn't John O'Neill calling this rally/press conference???"

I don't know why, I can't answer that.

MAYBE the Swift Boat founders are planning someting else.

NavyChief is offline

Perhaps you can signup and send him a private e-mail on the forum.

ONLY he can answer your questions.


297 posted on 10/30/2004 12:35:57 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Nov 2 : Remember the 58,000 + Names on the Wall)
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To: kingattax
LOL...nice eyes

Thanks! :-)

298 posted on 10/30/2004 12:36:04 PM PDT by SheLion ( Rove knew that sKerry was a man that stood for nothing and therefore would fall for anything.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I won't stop either, Diva! The vets are going to have their say!!!


299 posted on 10/30/2004 12:36:48 PM PDT by MistyCA (Sign the Form 180, Kerry!)
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To: MistyCA
And she is not privy to enough information to be making some of the statements that were made, imo.

Best not be saying what I am and am not privvy to. You just never know what comes through Freepmail.

300 posted on 10/30/2004 12:37:14 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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