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2008 George, George Allen!

Posted on 11/05/2004 11:25:12 AM PST by maineman

George Allen on Abortion # Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004) # Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003) # Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Budget & Economy Authored Balanced Budget Amendment plus lower taxes. (Apr 2000)

George Allen on Civil Rights # Support VA beliefs & pass flag-burning ban amendment. (Apr 2000) # Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002) # Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001) # Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001) # Rated 20% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)

George Allen on Corporations # Voted YES on restricting rules on personal bankruptcy. (Jul 2001) # Rated 100% by the US COC, indicating a pro-business voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Crime # Abolished parole; instituted Three Strikes laws. (Sep 2000) # Try juvenile felons as adults. (Sep 2000)

George Allen on Drugs Tougher sentencing for drug crimes. (Sep 2000)

George Allen on Education # Testing has brought accountability. (Sep 2000) # Voted NO on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001) # Voted NO on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001) # Voted NO on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr 2001) # Rated 27% by the NEA, indicating anti-public education votes. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Energy & Oil # Roll back federal gas tax to lower gas price. (Apr 2000) # Voted YES on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003) # Voted NO on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003) # Voted NO on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003) # Voted YES on drilling ANWR on national security grounds. (Apr 2002) # Voted YES on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months. (Mar 2002)

George Allen on Environment # Voted YES on confirming Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior. (Jan 2001) # Rated 0% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Families & Children Rated 100% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Foreign Policy Voted YES on enlarging NATO to include Eastern Europe. (May 2002)

George Allen on Free Trade # Voted YES on establishing a free trade agreement between US & Singapore. (Jul 2003) # Voted YES on establishing a free trade agreement between the US and Chile. (Jul 2003) # Voted YES on extending free trade to Andean nations. (May 2002) # Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam. (Oct 2001) # Voted YES on removing common goods from national security export rules. (Sep 2001) # Rated 67% by CATO, indicating a pro-free trade voting record. (Dec 2002)

George Allen on Government Reform # oted NO on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads. (Mar 2002) # Voted YES on require photo ID (not just signature) for voter registration. (Feb 2002) # Voted NO on banning campaign donations from unions and corporations. (Apr 2001)

George Allen on Gun Control Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)

George Allen on Health Care # Voted YES on $40 billion per year for limited Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Jun 2003) # Voted YES on allowing importation of Rx drugs from Canada. (Jul 2002) # Voted NO on allowing patients to sue HMOs & collect punitive damages. (Jun 2001) # Voted YES on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Apr 2001) # Rated 0% by APHA, indicating a anti-public health voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Homeland Security # Build SDI; pay soldiers more. (Sep 2000) # Small business in developing homeland security technologies. (Jul 2002) # Rated 0% by SANE, indicating a pro-military voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Jobs # Voted YES on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001) # Rated 0% by the AFL-CIO, indicating an anti-labor voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Principles & Values Calls himself “Common sense” conservative populist. (Apr 2000)

George Allen on Tax Reform # End death tax & marriage penalty; more deductions. (Apr 2000) # Voted YES on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years. (May 2003) # Voted YES on cutting taxes by $1.35 trillion over 11 years. (May 2001) # Voted NO on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates. (May 2001) # Voted NO on increasing tax deductions for college tuition. (May 2001) # Rated 76% by NTU, indicating a "Taxpayer's Friend" on tax votes. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Technology # Voted NO on disallowing FCC approval of larger media conglomerates. (Sep 2003) # Fund nanotechnology research & development. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on War & Peace # Voted YES on $86.5 billion for military operations in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Oct 2003) # Voted YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq. (Oct 2002) # Condemns anti-Muslim bigotry in name of anti-terrorism. (Oct 2001)

George Allen on Welfare & Poverty * Minor mothers must live at home & identify fathers. (Sep 2000) * Tax credits to promite home ownership in distressed areas. (Apr 2003)


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To: BillyBoy

I guess we're agreeing, overall.

But for the Hilary part.

All she has to do is take every state Kerry did (not hard, since they have become reliably democratic), then flip any one state...and it's Madame President.

I have said this before, many times, on many threads where Hilary comes up: When she runs, the MAIN ISSUE THAT SHE AND HER OPS AND THE MSM WILL BEAT LIKE A DRUM...will be, Isn't it time we let a woman try?

And when our side says, We must discuss national security, activist judges, social security, etc.,...their side will say, They're just afraid of a strong woman in the Whitehouse. Let's show them, people!

And among the undereducated and lackluster, you will even hear this sentiment: Men sure have screwed things up, maybe it's time we let a woman try.

And if you count in the normal democratic constituencies (labor, big cities, libs, minorities, teachers), and factor in all the American women with grievances, and all the feminized men...she can win.

Scares me silly.

When lib friends say, I'm afraid of a woman for president, I always respond, I'd happily have a woman president...just not THAT woman!

Especially if we run Frist, who is colorless, and does not suggest strength of will, or even much leadership talent.


121 posted on 05/28/2005 9:49:47 PM PDT by John Robertson (I love you, man! But not in the homo way.)
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To: BillyBoy; John Robertson; Gabz; iceskater; Mudboy Slim; jla; P8riot; Coop; Flora McDonald; ...
What if safe GOP stater George Allen has to compete on his home turf?

Quite simply, George Allen would kick two-horse-faced, tax-raisin', carpetbaggin' Mark Mark's arse.

122 posted on 05/29/2005 4:32:25 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe / FREE Mudboy Slim!)
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To: maineman

I'M FOR ALLEN, COUNT ME IN ON HIS WAGON.


123 posted on 05/29/2005 4:34:59 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: maineman
Can anyone remember when the last sitting Republican Senator was elected President of the United States? As much as I admire George Allen I think we would be much better off running a good conservative Governor. That seems to me to be a better formula.

Who is the best candidate available from the pool of Republican Governors?

124 posted on 05/29/2005 5:14:38 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: maineman

"George Allen on Gun Control Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)" I'd like to know why he voted on this like he did. All the others sounded fine. Attacking the Right and Freedom we have to own guns is eroding the foundation of our Freedom. Remember Stalin and Hitler took away guns. I'm not against Allen though I wonder what his thoughts were. The gun manufacturers didn't commit the crimes with their products.


125 posted on 05/29/2005 5:28:35 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
George Allen would kick two-horse-faced, tax-raisin', carpetbaggin' Mark Mark's arse.

Needed repeating.

126 posted on 05/29/2005 6:54:25 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: InterceptPoint

"good conservative Governor" happens to be part of George Allen's resume.


127 posted on 05/29/2005 6:55:36 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: maineman
George Allen on Gun Control Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)

What's that about?
128 posted on 05/29/2005 6:56:55 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: InterceptPoint
>> Can anyone remember when the last sitting Republican Senator was elected President of the United States? <<

Warren G. Harding, 1920. He was U.S. Senator from Ohio. His opponent for the presidency was James M. Cox, then governor of Ohio. Harding was very fortunate to campaigning in the aftermath of Woody Wilson's 2nd term screwups and won the presidency by campaign on a "back to normalcy" platform and people voted GOP to protest eight years of RAT plurality rule. Of course, in 2008, the Dem candidate would be able to use this label instead of Allen

(It should be noted that all the winning candidates BEFORE Harding were also sitting Governors rather Senators: Wilson, Taft, T.R. Roosevelt, McKinley, etc.)

Since neither logic nor reason seem to appeal to the Allen devotees, and they learned nothing from the 1996 and 1964 elections, the only solution will be to beat their boy in primary so we can keep the White House in GOP hands by running an Washington outsider. There's should be a pool of some really good candidates by 2008: Pawlenty, Blackwell, Owens, Ehrlich or Romney (IF they move rightward on the abortion issue), maybe even Rossi if we prove Gregorie stole the election in Washington state. They make sure Condi Rice and George Allen remain at their posts, doing the good work they were choosen to do.

129 posted on 05/29/2005 8:32:23 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Find out the TRUTH about the Chicago Democrat Machine's "Best Friend" in the GOP - www.NOLaHood.com)
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To: maineman

I like this guy.


130 posted on 05/29/2005 8:53:57 AM PDT by Jackknife (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation.-MacArthur)
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To: maineman

I have pushed for Senator Allen for several months now. His voting record speaks for itself and he is an honorable man.


131 posted on 05/29/2005 8:55:16 AM PDT by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: maineman

He has my vote so far!


132 posted on 05/29/2005 9:00:25 AM PDT by G Larry (Promote Conservative Judges NOW! YOU BUNCH OF COWARDS!!!)
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To: maineman
WOW, You posted this in NOV. Good Call are you Psychic?
133 posted on 05/29/2005 9:07:34 AM PDT by cmsgop
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To: G Larry

134 posted on 05/29/2005 9:23:29 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: Sybeck1

I had the honor of meeting with his Father back in 1985. I was a bellman at the Omni Shoreham Hotel and showed George Allen Sr. to his room. He chatted with me for over a half an hour, I was hanging on to every word he said. He left a lasting impression on me. I can only imagine being his Son. Sr. talked to me about being proud of who you are and being honest with yourself and your beliefs. His son has carried on his Fathers teachings. I'm 100% behind Allen in '08.


135 posted on 05/29/2005 12:00:24 PM PDT by maineman
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To: BillyBoy
BillyBoy: Thanks for the response. If I can summarize:

The Republicans have elected only 1 sitting Senator in the history of the Party: Warren G. Harding. All the rest (I'm betting) were either Governors or Generals or Vice Presidents - people with experience running large bureaucracies.

Conclusion from history: Run a Republican Senator in 2008 and lose.

136 posted on 05/29/2005 12:07:34 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: JOE43270
"George Allen on Gun Control Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)" I'd like to know why he voted on this like he did. All the others sounded fine. Attacking the Right and Freedom we have to own guns is eroding the foundation of our Freedom. Remember Stalin and Hitler took away guns. I'm not against Allen though I wonder what his thoughts were. The gun manufacturers didn't commit the crimes with their products.

George Allen voted no because the socialist senator from Kalifornia, Diane Feinstein attached a renewal of the so called "assault weapons" ban to the bill. So what do you want, another 10 year, or worse permanent ban on Home Defense Weapons.

137 posted on 05/29/2005 3:10:43 PM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: Vision

See post #137


138 posted on 05/29/2005 3:23:37 PM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: BillyBoy

Well the Redskin's lost just before the election and the incumbent president (GWB) won, contrary to all of the prognosticating. I get so tired of hearing that Allen can't win because he's a Senator. Anything can happen, and it usually does.


139 posted on 05/29/2005 3:29:08 PM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: P8riot

"George Allen voted no because the socialist senator from Kalifornia, Diane Feinstein attached a renewal of the so called "assault weapons" ban to the bill. So what do you want, another 10 year, or worse permanent ban on Home Defense Weapons." Relax I'm on your side. Thanks for filling me in because I don't know a lot about George Allen yet. I'm going to start looking into him and I'm believing I will like what I see.


140 posted on 05/29/2005 4:23:20 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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