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Bush Breaks First Campaign Pledge By Renewing Call For Illegal Alien Amnesty
FAIR ^ | November 10, 2004 | Dan Stein

Posted on 11/10/2004 12:51:19 PM PST by VU4G10

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To: Howlin

Why don't admit that you would rather die than oppose anything that Bush proposes?


421 posted on 11/10/2004 4:22:37 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2008)
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To: sarcasm
a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue

I defy you to post one reply where I've ever put myself out as a person of virtue.

I'll wait.

422 posted on 11/10/2004 4:22:41 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: dangus
It simply decriminalizes employing illegal aliens.

It also makes it more expensive to employ them -- now they're eligible for Social Securty, minimum wage, Workmen's Comp, OSHA etc. and they can complain if they don't get it.

423 posted on 11/10/2004 4:23:52 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: sarcasm

Sorry, ain't no free ride. What are we gonna do have these guys mow lawns to the North Pole? Right now, according to an article I came across recently,(not sure somewhere in AZ), I read that the illegal alien cost to AZ is costing legal residents approximately $700.00 per household to have these guys here. So add that amount into your cheap lawn mowing. Find out how much you are saving.

I believe that is a very conservative estimate. In California, I wouldn't be suprised if it is not costing each household more like $2500.00 per household in support to keep this cheap labor here.


424 posted on 11/10/2004 4:24:14 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: television is just wrong

So, because others want rights not given to them in the Constitution, you suggest that we now use rights prohibited by United States law?


425 posted on 11/10/2004 4:24:26 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin
I defy you to post one reply where I've ever put myself out as a person of virtue.

LOL, you're just a hypocrite.

426 posted on 11/10/2004 4:24:31 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2008)
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To: sarcasm
They're actually socialists in capitalist clothing.

Exactomundo..Leftist in conservative clothing.

427 posted on 11/10/2004 4:24:50 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Iron Eagle

I was reply to post 235 , which said

"Thus -- the 1982 Supreme Court case has answered your jurisdiction question, and further imparted not just the "protections" of the 14th Amendment, but it provided to illegals the benefits of citizenship."

The statement that schooling is a benefit of citizenship is simply untrue, the same as calling Bushs guest worker program "amnesty" - a poster here even stated that Bush wanted to give all these workers the right to vote, a blatent lie.

The attacks on Bush in these "discussions" is what I would expect from the Democrats on AirAmerica.

Personally, I believe ALL illegals should be deported, NO illegals should receive any benefits ( excepting emergency medical ) and a guest worker program should be put in place.

"When the Court converts the right to due process, into the right to receive benefits reserved to those here lawfully, the Court has overstepped its bounds. IMHO"

IMHO also


428 posted on 11/10/2004 4:25:28 PM PST by RS (Just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: VU4G10
I find the criticisms against this FAIR accurate.

They push leftist environmental, Margaret Samger type population control views.

They also are dishonest. Look at this graph from their "The Population-Environment Connection" page link

Note how it is presented to give a false impression of scale.

429 posted on 11/10/2004 4:25:54 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: sarcasm
Why don't admit that you would rather die than oppose anything that Bush proposes?

Well, the more you post, the more you show your ignorance: I'm against this very plan and said so way back in January.

430 posted on 11/10/2004 4:26:05 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: sarcasm

I knew you couldn't; just wanted it on record.


431 posted on 11/10/2004 4:26:29 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: television is just wrong

Try it here in New York - we can't build schools fast enough. They're a good part of the reason that we had a 22% increase in property taxes.


432 posted on 11/10/2004 4:26:44 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2008)
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To: Howlin

There is such thing as immigration laws. These people are criminals by definition. Plain and simple. Enforcement of laws will simply solve the problem. Otherwise, I think you are having an off day.


433 posted on 11/10/2004 4:26:49 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: television is just wrong

Enforcement by the people assigned to do it: the Border Patrol.


434 posted on 11/10/2004 4:27:42 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: EagleMamaMT
Incidentally, in my youth I've performed every one of those jobs on your list while I was going to school and getting a start in the job market. So have a lot of my friends. I still have friends who are doing them today.

I've noticed two types of people on FR who talk about jobs Americans won't do.

One type is the country club trust-funder who's apparently never worked a day of physical labor in their life. They honestly can't imagine earning money with their hands.

Then there's the business owner who has a financial stake in millions of people flooding the country. They know Americans will do the work but simply don't want to take the cut in profits to attract legal workers.

If you admit you are doing, have done or will do those types of jobs, either type will sneer and say you deserve to lose out to an illegal alien.

Wage busting clowns, the lot of them.

436 posted on 11/10/2004 4:29:55 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: Howlin

Obviously, the Border Patrol cannot handle the load. The Feds really don't know how many illegals are in this country. They only can estimate. We need to take all military personnel, like from Camp Pendelton, and other bases in the South West and start protecting the border. We need to use the border patrol officers on inland assignments, and start deporting them.

Anyhow that is what I would do.


437 posted on 11/10/2004 4:29:56 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: Howlin
I've already put it on the record:

YOU'RE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITE ON THIS FORUM

438 posted on 11/10/2004 4:29:57 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2008)
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To: FreedomCalls

"On the contrary, my house is much more affordable having been built with laborers who worked for $6 an hour rather than for $75 an hour."

I guess it's okay with you that those $6.00 per hour carpenters have to get their food, housing and medical care at the taxpayer's expense, isn't it? "Privatize the profits...socialize the costs".


439 posted on 11/10/2004 4:31:31 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: sarcasm

Are you under the impression that just saying something on FR makes it true; if you could prove it, you would.

And if we're going to post unsubstantiated stuff, I think you are a dwarf.

Since I don't have to PROVE what I say, according to your postings, people are free to believe it.


440 posted on 11/10/2004 4:32:00 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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