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Bush Breaks First Campaign Pledge By Renewing Call For Illegal Alien Amnesty
FAIR ^ | November 10, 2004 | Dan Stein

Posted on 11/10/2004 12:51:19 PM PST by VU4G10

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To: EagleMamaMT

I've never understood the knee jerk hatred for union members in some conservatives. The issue is union leadership, not the blue collar worker that elected Regan and now Bush.


641 posted on 11/10/2004 7:47:48 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: Missouri

"Nothing like arguing with the open-borders, globalist crowd. This has been going on all day."


Yep, and it will probably be going on every day for quite a while, I'm afraid. Better saddle up - it's going to be a long ride.


642 posted on 11/10/2004 7:48:19 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: JustAnotherSavage
Yes, and its the working class that fights this and every other war and has always kept this country alive.

That's right, and a lot of them are conservatives who have voted GOP for years. People think blue-collar and automatically assume liberal democrat.

643 posted on 11/10/2004 7:48:36 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: primeval patriot

"It's unseemly to talk about physical labor and hourly wages.

That's little people commie-talk"


Exactly. They're so amusing. If you don't wear your "Kneepads for W" or if you say something they don't agree with they start yelling "liberal" or "commie". Please. They're TOOO predictable! :) It would be really amusing to watch some of these people try to cook a meal or fix a car. No wonder they need all that cheap third-world labor! :)


644 posted on 11/10/2004 7:54:31 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

"So I take it you're a white-collar kinda guy, read the Wall St. Journal and all? In case you're unaware, blue-collar working class built the Republican party and elected Ronald Reagan. It's the corporate slugs who are along for the ride, not the other way around."

Shhh! Better watch that kind of talk around here! Everyone knows Ronald Reagan was only elected by the rich! (the sarcasm here should be obvious but I'll state it just to be safe!) :)


645 posted on 11/10/2004 7:57:27 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: FreedomCalls

"How do you get that they receive their food, housing and medical care at the taxpayer's expense? The ones I know purchase all that themselves."

So you're telling me that you personally know carpenters making $6.00 per hour who are able to totally provide for their families without any taxpayer assistance? What planet do you live on anyway?


646 posted on 11/10/2004 8:01:50 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: Poohbah
The 1986 law is practically unenforceable because all it only allows prosecution if employers knowingly hire illegals, and that's exteremely hard to prove. It does not require employers to take any steps to verify that a person is legal or illegal. All I have to say is, "Gee, this person showed me some papers, and they looked real," and I'm off the hook.

We need a law that requires verification of papers. Failure to verify would be straightforward to prosecute.

647 posted on 11/10/2004 8:18:22 PM PST by curiosity
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To: JustAnotherSavage

"Yes, and its the working class that fights this and every other war and has always kept this country alive. The Republican party uses the Christian right as surely as the Democrats use Black Americans."

Ahmen!


648 posted on 11/10/2004 8:21:06 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: radicalamericannationalist

"I've never understood the knee jerk hatred for union members in some conservatives. The issue is union leadership, not the blue collar worker that elected Regan and now Bush."

Lord, don't tell them that! They'll be up all night trying to make that little fact fit in their twisted little worlds! :)


649 posted on 11/10/2004 8:23:41 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: EagleMamaMT

It's fun to watch the gears in their heads lock up when you confront them with facts.


650 posted on 11/10/2004 8:24:40 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: Howlin
Try to deal in reality.

I do.

[I composed a long answer to you about just that subject. I previewed it & went back to make a change and it was all gone, I hate when that happens, past my bedtime, bye.]

651 posted on 11/10/2004 8:26:25 PM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: NO AMNESTY!)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

They're funny all the time! Like something straight out of "Animal Farm" - "White collar good! Blue collar bad!"


652 posted on 11/10/2004 8:27:00 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: citizen

Oh, I've done that, too. It's the pits!


653 posted on 11/10/2004 8:27:29 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: mudblood
Most Hispanics are very religious - so are republicans.

Not true. They're more religious on average than Americans, but not all that much.

Most Hispanics are very tight with their money, use it wisely, and don't expect much from the government (at least in Mexico) - so are republicans.

The welfare participation rate is higher for Hispanics than for the Americans as a whole.

Because of the high catholic background, most Hispanics are pro-life (just a guess there) - and so are republicans.

The abortion rate and illegitimacy rate are significantly higher for Hispanics.

Most Cubans are very republican, have a high rate of business ownership, stress higher education, etc.

The non-Cuban Hispanic highschool dropout rate is higher than for blacks, and it's somewhere around 40%. Large numebrs are functionally illiterate.

Most non-Cubans are hard working and wouldn't appreciate hiked taxes, for example.

Most non-Cubans are in the low income brackets, so they don't pay much in the way of taxes anyway. They won't mind tax hikes as a reasult.

654 posted on 11/10/2004 8:29:38 PM PST by curiosity
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To: EagleMamaMT
I've noticed they have the flip side of liberalitis, in which corporations and CEOs are always evil. Instead, they think just because some business interest likes something, that makes it conservative. Silly, silly people.
655 posted on 11/10/2004 8:30:45 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

"I've noticed they have the flip side of liberalitis, in which corporations and CEOs are always evil. Instead, they think just because some business interest likes something, that makes it conservative. Silly, silly people."


Exactly! :)


656 posted on 11/10/2004 8:36:48 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: FreedomCalls
Then you have a problem with poor people in general -- not with illegal immigrants for you could make the same argument for not educating poor people's children.

Poor people impose social costs. We're stuck with those that are already here and have an obligation to pay for them. Why must we import more?

657 posted on 11/10/2004 8:56:17 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Poor people impose social costs. We're stuck with those that are already here

Perhaps you would like to take up Swift's proposed solution then? You did read it, right?

658 posted on 11/10/2004 9:14:37 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
We have a moral obligation to educate our own poor. We do not have a moral obligation to import more poor people to educate that are presently Mexico's responsibility.
659 posted on 11/10/2004 9:19:09 PM PST by curiosity
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To: EagleMamaMT
You should read "Why Capitalism is not Conservative" by Robert Locke.
660 posted on 11/10/2004 9:20:00 PM PST by curiosity
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