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Video Catches Marine Shooting Injured Enemy
fox ^ | 11-15-04

Posted on 11/15/2004 10:34:22 PM PST by LouAvul

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To: LouAvul

The fox reporter also said it is very hard to second guess soldiers on the battlefield.

This is also why the USA needed to stay out of the world criminal court. This is the propaganda BS that will be used to have show trials.

The report also included that TWO US marines were killed inspecting a boobytraped dead corpse.

Either way, this is one dead enemy who will not recover to fight another day.


23 posted on 11/15/2004 11:01:40 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: ninjak

May I politely suggest you read the rules of engagement for posting on this board.

You won't last long here if you don't.


24 posted on 11/15/2004 11:02:13 PM PST by Valpal1 (The constitution is going to be amended, the only question is by whom?)
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To: LouAvul
Shooting an unarmed, wounded combatant is considered a violation of the rules of war.

Perhaps it's time for some serious "pantie" retraining so we can win this war.

25 posted on 11/15/2004 11:02:33 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: ninjak
Whoo boy now that is a scintilating command of the English language... nice job newbe I'm appropriately chastened.....
26 posted on 11/15/2004 11:02:35 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (Satan has a new name and it is Islam)
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To: ninjak

98.6


27 posted on 11/15/2004 11:04:14 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (Satan has a new name and it is Islam)
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To: LouAvul

Do you think that a reporter in 1943 ever would have shown this piece of tape. NO. He would have cared about the ramifications to his country's war effort. He would have been on the Marine's side. The media should be severely punished for their aiding the enemy in this case. Who is it that did this?


28 posted on 11/15/2004 11:04:17 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (out of the sun)
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To: Ruth A.

> Beheading kidnapped civilians is also
> against the rules of war.

What a thought, some perspective. The media always distorts things: Abu Gharib, for example... they will *never* juxtapose our "overstepping the bounds" with the Islamofascists' "overstepping the bounds" or they'd have to show people jumping off the World Trade Center.


29 posted on 11/15/2004 11:04:27 PM PST by EaglesUpForever
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To: LouAvul
During the second-day operation, one of the Marines came upon a wounded insurgent lying on the floor. On the tape, Marines wielding machine guns are seen going into the mosque and approaching a couple of Iraqi fighters lying on the floor. One of the Marines is heard repeatedly shouting, "He's faking he's dead!"

He had not surrendered, therefore he had to be considered a threat.

The Marine then apparently fired a single shot into the wounded man's head — which was heard and caught on videotape but blacked out when the tape was aired. A voice can be heard saying, "He's dead now."

IOW, he became a good terrorist.

Shooting an unarmed, wounded combatant is considered a violation of the rules of war.

How could he have known the terrorist was not armed or rigged? Should a marine in active combat have to prove that a wounded enemy is armed before shooting at him?

There's some bad spin being put out by the media on this incident, IMO.

30 posted on 11/15/2004 11:05:48 PM PST by Ken H
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To: LouAvul
Video Catches Marine Shooting Injured Enemy

I'm confused -- they say that like it's a *bad* thing...

31 posted on 11/15/2004 11:07:25 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: LouAvul
Already posted here:

Marines investigate shooting of wounded insurgent
and here:
Military investigates shooting of wounded insurgent

Let's see, the situation was:

  1. other terrorists had retaken the Mosque and had to be cleaned out again
  2. many terrorists are suicide bombers
  3. terrorists hide and disguise Improvised Explosive Devices
  4. terrorists set up booby traps everywhere they can
  5. terrorists booby trap their dead and wounded
  6. terrorists fake surrendering then attack when our troops are drawn out to take the prisoners into custody
  7. terrorists fake surrendering then blow themselves up when our troops are attempt to take the prisoners into custody
  8. other terrorists had retaken the Mosque and had to be cleaned out again
  9. no intel provided that enemy wounded had already been subdued
  10. other terrorists had retaken the Mosque and had to be cleaned out again
  11. after our troops successfully storm the Mosque, they go room to room to secure each, and discover some wounded and dead enemy in the room.  They start to secure the wounded to render them harmless and an assumed dead terrorist makes a sudden move

WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

  1. ask him if he wants a cigarette?
  2. apologize for thinking he was dead?
  3. call up the chain of command for orders?
  4. ask the reporter for his recommendations?
  5. blow the #(*&^%@* terrorist's head off.

If you answered A, B, C or D:

YOU'RE DEAD!!!

MOST OF YOUR TEAM IS DEAD!!!

because if you believe in any other possible outcome, then YOU WILL FAIL TO ACT IN TIME when it really counts.  This is the way our troops are trained AND SHOULD BE trained.

JMHO

32 posted on 11/15/2004 11:07:27 PM PST by RebelTex (Freedom is Everyone's Right... ...and Everyone's Responsibility!)
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To: Prime Choice

How do we KNOW he was faking? If the soldier was mistaken and the enemy was already dead, there is nothing wrong with shooting a dead body of an un-uniformed enemy.


33 posted on 11/15/2004 11:08:34 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: RebelTex

You are forgetting the terrorists are waiving white flags in order to trick compassionate troops into ambushes.

(in islam you are allowed to lie to a non believer)

The only way to fix faluja is to eliminate the whole city and start from scratch.


35 posted on 11/15/2004 11:11:29 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: DoughtyOne

"Terrorists by their very nature, eliminate their ability to claim Geneva Convention protections."

Worth repeating as many times as necessary to drown out the whining military-hating anti-American Obsolete Media.

Illegal combatants are specifically excluded from the protections of the Geneva Convention. Out of uniform, in the wrong uniform, using mosques or churches or schools or hospitals as a firing platform or staging area, using civilians as shields, using ambulances to transport munitions, using a flag of truce or surrender falsely are all violations that can subject you to summary execution on the field of battle or behind enemy lines. Furthermore, a nonsignatory is not protected by the GC if they themselves violate it. None of the various terrorist groups have signed the GC and none adhere to them, so members of those groups are not protected.

There are documented instances of each and every one of the above listed war crimes perpetrated on numerous occasions by the terrorists. Not one of our soldiers should be put at risk obeying rules that don't apply, especially when the other side is using those rules against our guys.

If an enemy appears to be playing possum then they are most likely up to no good. A bullet to make sure is a worthwhile investment when it may possibly be saving the life of one of our soldiers. And if the bad guy was already dead it doesn't matter.


36 posted on 11/15/2004 11:15:29 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: wildcatf4f3
Many, many German soldiers died in the allied POW camps, nearly all were tortured. Cities were bombed with the express purpose of killing the labor for the industrial base. The area under German control starved due to bombing. Draconian measures were implemented in Germany after the war to ensure compliance. Nuclear warheads were used on Japan. Areas with wounded soldiers and civilians were bombed on purpose.

Take what you can from this as far as what was justified, but you can be sure that these stories did not make the news.

What do these reporters think a war is? What the heck do they expect with insurgents posing as civilians/possum and the threat of suicide bombers?

I think we should quit all this holier than thou baloney and fight our wars like we should. No mercy, no surrender.

It makes for less death and suffering in the long run.
37 posted on 11/15/2004 11:16:59 PM PST by demecleze
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To: ninjak
...im 2/8 1st cav bienhoa

LMAO yeah right. All 50+ year olds talk like that.



Thanks for the logo Safrguns!

38 posted on 11/15/2004 11:17:12 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Islam is a religion of peace. Strange every murdering psychopath in the world is attracted to it.)
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To: ninjak

It's about some semblance of the English language. That is the house language at FR. Not some truncated hip tech speak. We don't speak PC. Go find a games site........


39 posted on 11/15/2004 11:17:17 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (Satan has a new name and it is Islam)
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To: spycatcher

Kerry would have shot him and applied for a bronze star, a purple hart (for the hangnail pulling the trigger) and then written a book on how there was a fierce fire fight at the time. again.


40 posted on 11/15/2004 11:17:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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