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1 posted on 12/02/2004 5:29:00 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 12/02/2004 5:34:07 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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Muslims hated Jews long before America was a twinkle in her Daddy's eye.(Yes that capital "D" was intentional, atheists)


3 posted on 12/02/2004 5:34:27 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah!!!)
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But is it not possible that the reverse is true – that Israel is hated because it is pro-American?

If the author wants to test this theory by distancing Israel from America, then I hope he's a really good swimmer.

4 posted on 12/02/2004 5:40:07 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus
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Cripes, you guys need to shed your angst about telling the truth, Amir.

Muslims hate us because we are not Muslims. They have been taught from birth that it's the right and proper thing to do.

Muslims virtually ALL support the idea of the imposition of the "Caliphate", or Muslim dictatorship, over all the people in the world. Americans will never let that happen. That's another reason they hate us.

Muslims are also very good at coming up with diversionary excuses as to why they hate us, like support of Israel, but if Israel evaporated miraculously overnight, Muslims would still have the desire and expectation of forcing the entire world to submit to Islam, or perish.

And they hate us even more now that we can see what they are, because we aren't wearing the "religion of peace" blinders anymore, and that is thwarting their evil designs.

Muslims hate us because we are. And by any standard, they are our sworn mortal enemy, a group of people who want to enslave us. And as I said before, we will never let that happen.

6 posted on 12/02/2004 5:47:17 AM PST by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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Both are hated. The fact that they're sometimes close provides more of an excuse. But even when the U.S. was cool to Israel and Isreal relied on France, Israel was hated. All branches of the decision tree leed to hating Israel and hating the U.S. Israel because Jews live there. The U.S. because it is the biggest global power and it is not an Islamic power.


7 posted on 12/02/2004 5:51:43 AM PST by Starrgaizr
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To: SJackson

There are parallels with the liberal elites and their sheeple that they despise and use.


9 posted on 12/02/2004 5:58:32 AM PST by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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Mohammed had 700 or so jews butchered. This article is a pile of baloney.


10 posted on 12/02/2004 5:59:50 AM PST by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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This article is good food for thought, but I doubt that Israel can get off of the Arab's sh*t list by going anti-american. Arabs hate the US because we are the leader of a civilization, the western world, whose culture and institutions the Muslims have never been able to conquer. Jews are an integral part of that civilization, and that crime is compounded by the fact that in 40 years they took a barren desert that Arabs had been inhabiting for ages and turned it into something worth having, all while being at war with their neighbors. And they don't even have any damn oil. I guess I'd be embarrassed and angered, too.
11 posted on 12/02/2004 6:00:55 AM PST by beef ("Blessed are the geeks, for they shall inherit the earth.")
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But what if conventional wisdom got it wrong?

They call Israel the little-satan and America the Great-Satan. The only thing conventional about wisdom is that is is rare, and has ears.

14 posted on 12/02/2004 7:19:00 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Excellent.


15 posted on 12/02/2004 9:17:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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All you need to understand about the priorities is that America is the "Great Satan" and Israel is the "Little Satan". If Israel is the key, they why aren't the titles reversed?
20 posted on 12/02/2004 9:51:03 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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Once in a while you read something that, not only proposes something that is out-of-the-box thinking, but also marshalls some facts to support it.

This is one of those articles.

Bookmarked, to return to, again and again.

21 posted on 12/02/2004 11:13:55 AM PST by happygrl
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Other Muslims don't really CARE about the Palestinians as a people. They only care about the region they call Palestine belonging to Muslims


22 posted on 12/02/2004 7:35:38 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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