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Snubbed churchgoers make selves heard on every corner (of Denver "Holiday" parade)
Denver News ^ | Dec 4 04 | Montero and Sheeler

Posted on 12/04/2004 9:59:56 PM PST by churchillbuff

Bruce Bain doesn't attend church regularly, but nothing was going to keep him from showing up on the corner of 17th Street and Tremont Place on Friday night.

"How can you have the Parade of Lights without the 'light of the world'?" he asked. "Christmas is a religious holiday."

So the 56-year-old Englewood man joined hundreds of Christmas carolers from metro-area churches and sang along the Parade of Lights route. They sang on 15th Street. They sang at Court Place. And they sang at Colfax Avenue and Bannock Street.

What they didn't do was raise hell.

Yes, it was a protest of sorts - if you count that five of the six songs in the 2,500 caroling pamphlets given out heralded the birth of Jesus. See, Faith Bible Chapel in Arvada, upon hearing the parade wouldn't allow its religious-themed float this year, decided it would rally carolers and sing along the route beforehand.For its part, the parade started in 1974 as a way to replace Denver's traditional Saturday morning Santa Claus Parade that ended in the 1960s. The Parade Of Lights entry rules evolved during the past decade to reject religious-themed floats in favor of more secular symbols such as snowmen and gingerbread houses.

Pastor George Morrison - whose church has 4,000 members - said he was not even allowed to have a sign that read "Merry Christmas."

Rhoda Schultz, one of the caroling organizers, didn't know what to expect as people began to show up shortly after 6:30 p.m. She urged everyone to be respectful. She asked that they stop singing 10 minutes before the parade started at 8 p.m. so as not to divert attention away from the parade.

"OK, so we're not going to get a float," she said. "So let's get together anyway and carol."

The leader of Faith Bible Chapel's choir then stood on the steps of Republic Plaza and tried to marshal the caroling forces.

"OK, how many are ready to go?" she asked.

A few scattered hands went up. Finally, a group of about 20 were corralled, and with their song sheets, scarves and a few signs, they headed down Tremont Place.As the hour before the parade marched on, more groups of 20 or 30 went forth, singing. By the time Schultz's 10-minute rule arrived, about 500 were singing at various downtown street corners.

Along the parade route, the caroling groups were greeted with some applause. Some watched impassively. Some merchants zipped past them selling light sticks and foam Christmas-tree hats. One person walked by and asked, "Are these the Jesus people?"

Carly MacGill, who was with her 3-year-old daughter, stood on an icy curb as the first group moved slowly by. They were just starting Joy to the World when MacGill yelled, "Merry Christmas! God bless!"

Laura Ranger, who was bundled up in a red jacket and wore a Santa hat, said she wanted to sing because she was simply tired of feeling like Christianity was being excluded from the Parade of Lights.

She wore a sign on her back that read, "Say it loud and proud - Merry Christmas.

"It took me a few seconds to make the sign, but they were important seconds," Ranger, 31, said. "I needed to be out here to show my support."

Mary Beth Brugler, a 53-year-old from Arvada and a member of Faith Bible Chapel, showed her support by brewing 12 gallons of hot chocolate.

Another person brought an additional three gallons.

It was all gone in an hour.

"We pretty much covered everyone," Brugler said, adding that the batch she made consisted of "just the right amount of chocolate."

The Parade of Lights, sponsored by the Downtown Partnership, issued a statement Friday regarding the carolers.

Jim Basey, president of the partnership, said it stands by its policy of not allowing religious or political messages in the parade. He also said that despite last-minute lobbying by City Council members for a compromise, parade organizers said they would wait until next year to evaluate their policies.

But this year, well, rules are rules.

"We have no objections to Pastor (George) Morrison's plan to walk along the parade crowd, pass hot chocolate and sing Christmas carols," the statement said. "Please know that there are no policies for the Parade of Lights prohibiting Christmas songs or parade participants saying 'Merry Christmas,' 'Happy Hanukkah' or other holiday greetings. That is part of the holiday tradition."

Heard downtown

Friday night, carolers organized by Faith Bible Chapel blanketed portions of the Parade of Lights route with traditional Christmas songs including:

• Joy to the World

• Silent Night

• Hark! The Herald Angels Sing

• The First Noel

• Angels We Have Heard on High

• We Wish You A Merry Christmas

• Ten minutes before the parade began, the carolers ended with Silent Night.


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To: MeekOneGOP
:~)

Nothin' like it.

We have a Great God, a Great Nation, and a Great People.

61 posted on 12/05/2004 8:25:30 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: churchillbuff

My wife and I took the grandkids to the Parade of Lights up here in NE Ct. Real nice. Loads of Merry Christmas stuff and a nice float whcih had the truth, "Jesus ids the reason for the season". My granddaughters weren't shy about saying either.LOL


62 posted on 12/05/2004 8:29:41 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Bandaneira
The carpenter from Nazareth re-appear, because...Sorry kids, he ain't returning ever ! Boy are you in for a shock!
63 posted on 12/05/2004 8:34:23 AM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Happy2BMe
:^D

64 posted on 12/05/2004 8:34:30 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: Bandaneira
"Christmas" it wont help one iota in making the carpenter from Nazareth re-appear, because...Sorry kids, he ain't returning ever !

Ummmm Christmas is about the birth of Jesus, not the second coming

65 posted on 12/05/2004 8:40:04 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: devolve

Thanks for the ping!


66 posted on 12/05/2004 9:32:09 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: truthandlogic
There was one group allowed to participate in the parade, they called themselves "two spirits". Gay and Lesbo Indians who worship a kindred spirit of sorts. Go figure, their message was allowed, but not Merry Christmas.

I say turnabout is fair play... We should demand to have Christian/conservative floats, loudly denouncing homosexuality, in the next "gay pride" parade. (I know the thought of even going near such a circus is stomach-turning, but it might be interesting, no?) And we should demand that the name be changed to acknowledge all "sexual preferences (gag)", so as to be "inclusive." How about "The Parade of Proclivities?"

67 posted on 12/05/2004 9:52:52 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: ride the whirlwind

bttt


68 posted on 12/05/2004 9:55:06 AM PST by prairiebreeze (It's my right to publically celebrate Christmas and state my faith in Christ. At least for now.....)
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To: churchillbuff

Carols and hot cocoa - sharing the love and hospitality of Jesus Christ, can't beat that with a stick ---- bravo to those carolers out in Denver!


69 posted on 12/05/2004 9:58:23 AM PST by PresbyRev
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To: churchillbuff

Carols and hot cocoa - sharing the love and hospitality of Jesus Christ, can't beat that with a stick ---- bravo to those carolers out in Denver!


70 posted on 12/05/2004 9:58:23 AM PST by PresbyRev
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; Coleus

The Christians, and other people with common sense, aren't taking this one sitting down.


71 posted on 12/05/2004 9:59:50 AM PST by ELS
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for teaching me :)


72 posted on 12/05/2004 11:16:55 AM PST by bubbleb
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To: bubbleb
My pleasure! :^D


73 posted on 12/05/2004 11:38:45 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: jellybean

Thanks!


74 posted on 12/05/2004 12:54:47 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot com! Check it out!!!)
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To: devolve

To think the aclu banned together with other than Christians to ban our CHRISTMAS celebrations, steals our money, then makes the communitites in which the litigation takes place, pay them, for making those citizens cowtow to a law ruled by the minority. Just puts gravel in one's girdle. IT'S TIME FOR US TO BAN TOGETHER AND BRING CHRISTIAN BELIEFS WHERE WE CHRISTIANS CAN SEE THEM. STAND UP CHURCH MINISTERS...PUT SOME STIFFENING IN YOUR BACKBONES.


75 posted on 12/05/2004 12:57:34 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Bandaneira

Dude! You are SO wrong! Please reconsider your stance on this. Please?


76 posted on 12/05/2004 12:57:41 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot com! Check it out!!!)
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To: tillacum; Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; abigail2; Grampa Dave; Smartass


Over 80% of Americans are Christians.

We do not seek to use the ACLU, scuzzy bigoted Mayors, or nutcase leftie federal judges to stomp on the throats of other religions.

We do not seek to burn their religious books, censor their speech, or ban them from marching in parades or carrying signs about their holidays or sing their religious songs.

Do not attempt to do that to Christians.

There lies the path to the cause of their own future problems.

I will boycott any business that bans Christmas signs on their premises while grabbing the dollars for Christmas presents with both sticky hands.


Macys/Federated Stores are on my list to avoid.

Target Stores are on my list to avoid.


This list will grow and be on websites detailing the bigoted parasites.



Go ahead, make your play -


77 posted on 12/05/2004 2:16:33 PM PST by devolve (http://00access.tripod.com/GreenGrass.html http://00access.tripod.com/CountryRoads.html)
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To: devolve; tillacum
bump! bump! bump!


78 posted on 12/05/2004 2:21:35 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: Grampa Dave
bump! bump! bump!

79 posted on 12/05/2004 2:22:38 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: devolve; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Mia T; Grampa Dave; Smartass

I Googled both the mayor and the "Downtown Partnership" group that sponsored this outrageous "Parade of Lights" and I could see no indication any kind of Jewish influence, as implied in your Hickenlooper remark.

It is secular humanists that are responsible here and they should be the focus of our concern. (IMHO) Our friends in the Jewish community are rarely involved in this kind of action.


80 posted on 12/05/2004 2:22:43 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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