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Married, without children: Finding fulfillment with no kids
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 1/3/05 | Mark Wolf

Posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:56 AM PST by qam1

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To: Rummyfan

Some people are way ahead of you:

http://www.vhemt.org/


81 posted on 01/03/2005 9:03:23 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: qam1

Some couples feel happy being with each other and finding their mutual company fulfilling. Have kids changes everything and you have to always put them ahead of each other. For some husbands and wives its too big a hassle.


82 posted on 01/03/2005 9:04:13 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tax-chick

Why thank you! I personally own an H&K USP 45 compact, but I think Ms. Wenker can sufficiently use a Beretta 9mm to end her terrible impact on the environment for us all!

Good to see another mother-of-seven around here! I'm the oldest of seven myself, I know what an interesting circus that can be!


83 posted on 01/03/2005 9:04:15 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Stupid grandma leaver-outers!"--Tom Servo)
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To: Durus
There is such hostility on this thread to those who have chosen to not have children. I don't know where such hostility comes from but I can say this...It's nobodies business but their own.

I tend to agree. What harm do these folks do by choosing not to have kids?

84 posted on 01/03/2005 9:04:45 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Durus

They made it other people's business by whining to a reporter about how they're "neglected" and "not celebrated." Otherwise we wouldn't be having this thread!


85 posted on 01/03/2005 9:04:47 AM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
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To: Bella_Bru

I agree. I am a big supporter of traditional marriage, but at the same time I have experienced more than my fair share of disdain and condescension from fellow conservatives who assume I'm liberal because I'm unmarried or who act as though I must have something wrong with me to not be married already. I think parenting is a high calling, yet I also think that even some of us who would love to be parents may never experience it for various reasons not related to selfishness.


86 posted on 01/03/2005 9:04:58 AM PST by susiek
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To: qam1
"Child-rearing in modern times is expensive and can be onerous, especially after you've been living as a single person or a couple without children for a while"

_____________________________

My mom used to always say that having children is like taking vacations. If you wait until you can afford them you'll never have them.
87 posted on 01/03/2005 9:05:19 AM PST by Mase
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To: retrokitten
Who in their right mind would be jealous of not having a baby shower?

The problem I've always had with baby showers and reams of congratulations is that any idiot can make a baby. The achievement lies in raising the kid into a respectable human being. I think it better to wait 16 years or whatever, see how the kid has turned out, and then hand over your congratulations and gifts (or not)! LOL

88 posted on 01/03/2005 9:06:10 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Durus
Are you suggesting that the primary reason to have children is that you will have someone to take care of you when you grow old?

No, I just found it sad that after their husbands died they had no one close to take care of them.

89 posted on 01/03/2005 9:06:43 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Modernman; Durus

The hostility comes from the fact that this is a conservative website that often discusses things like abortion,etc. The idea that people wouldn't want to have children sounds strange to some people. It really IS no one's business but they opened it up for discussion by putting themselves in a news article.


90 posted on 01/03/2005 9:06:53 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: qam1

This fits right in with the ABA model divorce code which evisions children as a MERE ACCESSORY to marriage. In other words marriage is only a means of ADULT behavior.

Why is this important? Because this fits in with homosexual marriage advocated by the ABA and other groups. As long as marriage is tied as an institution raising children then there will never be viability to homosexual marriage.

This article is nothing but propaganda since the childless couple described is acting as AUNT AND UNCLE and at any time could subsitute for mother and father without being notice.

Homosexuals deride normal people as "breeders", a check of the author of this article would probably reveal support for the homo-agenda.

Goebles would be proud.


91 posted on 01/03/2005 9:06:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Circus it is :-). I don't care whether this lady has kids, but complaints about overpopulation are based on the idea that other people are less valuable than Herself.


92 posted on 01/03/2005 9:07:14 AM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
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To: BikerNYC

Just venting after the holidays. Spent two weeks with them. Far too long to be visiting parents.


93 posted on 01/03/2005 9:07:16 AM PST by econ_grad
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To: Future Snake Eater

Good luck to you and thanks for your service!

Partial to Sig myself.


94 posted on 01/03/2005 9:07:52 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: DennisR
Hi DennisR-

"...Being childless and having abortions are from the same root: selfishness. Period, end of story. If you could have, but do not have, kids, why waste the oxygen? I know this is harsh, but...


Please get a grip on yourself! Would you make this same statement in the worst areas of Detroit, Philadelphia, Camden, or South Central Los Angeles? The residents of those areas can all have kids. Will you harshly criticize those who choose to remain childless?

~ Blue Jays ~

95 posted on 01/03/2005 9:07:59 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

Both taxes are unfair, in my opinion. FWIW. :)


96 posted on 01/03/2005 9:08:03 AM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: cyborg
...they're big diesel feminists...

Did you just coin that phraze? LOL

That's a good one, just one degree from Diesel Dykes.

97 posted on 01/03/2005 9:08:03 AM PST by Syncro
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To: susiek

Might be due to what part of the country in which you live. Where I live(about an hour's away from NYC), no one really cares what your marital status is.


98 posted on 01/03/2005 9:08:51 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Syncro

You know the type. They're heterosexual but they're angry that other women don't join them in their liberal child-free fantasy. The husband is there for social party invites that are couples only, and maybe the extra paycheck.


99 posted on 01/03/2005 9:09:29 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

You don't know what the F you are talking about...I am about conservative as they come and I am no feminist either. I have been married for seven years and for personal reasons we choose to remain childless and there are all sorts of reasons some couples decide to remain childless.


100 posted on 01/03/2005 9:09:35 AM PST by killthedonkey
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