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China's feelings about the Bush victory
Brookes News ^ | 11.08.04 | Peter Zhang

Posted on 01/07/2005 6:38:09 PM PST by Dr. Marten

China's feelings about the Bush victory

Peter Zhang
BrookesNews.Com

Monday 8 November 2004

That Kerry's defeat is a disappointment to the regime is no surprise to China watchers. The regime regarded Kerry as a self-absorbed, vacillating, weak and an unpatriotic man with little or no character. Just the kind of man they would like to see as president of the United States.

Unlike the majority of Kerry's domestic critics he was not seen as a "flip-flopper," far from it. To those schooled in Marxist-Leninist principles anything that serves socialism is justified.

Therefore Kerry's continual reversals, rationalisations, lies and denials were viewed as merely a means to conceal and advance his own view of America. A view that he knew the mass of Americans would find unacceptable. This is why he was forced to sail under false colours.

One effect of Kerry's defeat is to set some wondering about the alleged decline of American power and resolve. There are those who think that America is in a terminal state of decline, despite its recent military victories. A Kerry victory would have lent some force to this view. (In their minds only an ignoramus or someone who detested his country would vote for a man like Kerry).

This is an important point. The more the regime thinks that American resolve is real and strengthening the less inclined it will be to listen to reckless military advice, particularly with respect to Taiwan.

China's America watchers have been delving into the innards of the election result. What they found does not bode well for Chinese militarists or Democrats. The regime, as I have mentioned before, is acutely aware of the powerful influence that America's mainstream media wields in its political affairs.

From their point of view they have for many years considered this influence benign in that it indirectly served the interests of the regime. Kerry's defeat now suggests that this influence is on the wane.

Beijing firmly believes that were it not for the rise of what has become the new or alternative media Kerry would now be president. Moreover they also believe that the results conceal the true magnitude of the Bush victory.

Roughly speaking, if one makes adjustments for the "blame America crowd" and those who were influenced by the media and the mass of anti-Bush propaganda the anti-Kerry vote was massive.

As they see it, the more informed the American public becomes the more it will shift toward the Republicans. This assumes that Democrats will not learn from their mistakes. A reasonable assumption, at least in the short term, considering that the left apparently controls the party.

That the alternative media played a significant role in re-electing Bush troubles the regime. What if the net provides the Chinese people with alternative views and a source of news and facts that could undermine the regime's legitimacy? Expect intensified attempts to control the net.

I think it is safe to conclude that the regime will largely accommodate itself to the Bush administration. Although there still might be some sabre-rattling over Taiwan's independence it will go no further than that.

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: china; chinese; commiesforkerry; democrats; electionpresident; geopolitcs; kerry; kerrydefeat
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1 posted on 01/07/2005 6:38:09 PM PST by Dr. Marten
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To: Dr. Marten
In the last few days several items have been posted that made me do a lot of research on the Taiwanese defenses. The single most frequent phrase I ran into was "cancelled by President Clinton". Seems like Clinton did everything he could to prevent Taiwan from defending himself. Many of their defenses were sold before Clinton, and now W is picking up the pace to help Taiwan defend iteself.
You can bet the ChiComs are not happy that W is still president.
2 posted on 01/07/2005 6:43:45 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Let the games begin - It's Friday)
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" Expect intensified attempts to control the net. "

I can personally testify that this is already going on. My internet access has been cut several times in recent weeks.


3 posted on 01/07/2005 6:44:02 PM PST by Dr. Marten
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The regime regarded Kerry as a self-absorbed, vacillating, weak and an unpatriotic man with little or no character.

Them and me both.

4 posted on 01/07/2005 6:48:26 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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Hang in there, Doc. The truth will always find a way to get out. I believe that the 'net is the single biggest threat to tha Chi-coms.


5 posted on 01/07/2005 6:51:18 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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Taiwan needs to just put at least one weapon's dump on ever square mile of the island and there is no way that China would risk invading. I would donate to a "Guns for Taiwan" charity.


6 posted on 01/07/2005 6:52:15 PM PST by bahblahbah
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A Kerry victory would have lent some force to this view. (In their minds only an ignoramus or someone who detested his country would vote for a man like Kerry).

How true !!!

7 posted on 01/07/2005 6:54:15 PM PST by Deetes
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To: Dr. Marten; Buckhead
Beijing firmly believes that were it not for the rise of what has become the new or alternative media Kerry would now be president.

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8 posted on 01/07/2005 6:57:55 PM PST by Principled
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China is more aware of the implications of Bush's vicory than even professional and amateur pundits in America. Typical.

Flip-Flopper could be said to be another word for opportunist. This can hold true and still allow Kerry is a rabid socialist sympathetic to communist regimes.

Beijing firmly believes that were it not for the rise of what has become the new or alternative media Kerry would now be president. Moreover they also believe that the results conceal the true magnitude of the Bush victory.

This is pathetic. The Communists understand the scope of the victory, and the Democrats don't. I've even seen conservatives that don't have a clue of the significance of Nov. 2nd.

As they see it, the more informed the American public becomes the more it will shift toward the Republicans.

And, they would be right.

There are those who think that America is in a terminal state of decline, despite its recent military victories. A Kerry victory would have lent some force to this view. (In their minds only an ignoramus or someone who detested his country would vote for a man like Kerry).

They just nailed 48% of the population.

9 posted on 01/07/2005 6:58:16 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Last Dakotan

couldn't say it better myself .


10 posted on 01/07/2005 6:59:48 PM PST by Deetes
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To: Dr. Marten
The regime regarded Kerry as a self-absorbed, vacillating, weak and an unpatriotic man with little or no character.

60+million had him pegged too, thank goodness.

To those schooled in Marxist-Leninist principles anything that serves socialism is justified.

That is scary. Anything that serves socialism is justified. And we have the Progressive Caucus in the House of Representatives who are so dedicated. That really isn't much different, philosophically, than Islamofanaticism -- anything is justified that promotes Islam. We also need to recall Hillary Clinton's interview in Germany last year and her speech about taxing for the common good last year in California. They are closer to their goals than the average American realizes.
11 posted on 01/07/2005 7:04:35 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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Interesting article, but China's designs on America are as much economic as military. They did horde oil this year, hoping to raise prices to undermine the recovery. Trade imbalalces and national debt are also closely watched by Beijing.


12 posted on 01/07/2005 7:04:37 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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"Therefore Kerry's continual reversals, rationalisations, lies and denials were viewed as merely a means to conceal and advance his own view of America. A view that he knew the mass of Americans would find unacceptable. This is why he was forced to sail under false colours. "

I believe this is exactly right. He had to try to sell a pig in a poke to the American people.

His supporters largely knew this too, that is why they voted for him even though they didn't like him or agree with anything he said for public consumption, and why they didn't pay attention to his superficial flip-flops.


13 posted on 01/07/2005 7:07:49 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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"This assumes that Democrats will not learn from their mistakes. A reasonable assumption, at least in the short term... "

But not a reasonable assumption in the long term. I foresee that Soros and crowd will be dumping tons of money into making DU a friendlier place, and moveon.org will pick up where Dean left off on moving the party to the point of being internet savvy.


14 posted on 01/07/2005 7:08:51 PM PST by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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Good take...

Btw, hadn't author Peter Zhang worked for an Aussie publication in the past?

15 posted on 01/07/2005 7:09:07 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Dr. Marten
Expect intensified attempts to control the net.

In China and here, as well. Hillary Clinton, the Dems, and even some Republicans are continuing to advocate the need for "a gatekeeper" for the Internet, a.k.a., control--by them, of course.
16 posted on 01/07/2005 7:09:59 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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Expect intensified attempts to control the net.




The genie is out of the bottle and no amount of control will put it back. The Chinese Government might slow it down. Freedom is the genie. The net is a means of communication.


17 posted on 01/07/2005 7:11:10 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ProudVet77

We must not lose hold of the directive, "Follow the money." It seems as if these socialist elites consume a lot of time lining their pockets. Clintoon had his pockets lined for sure--besides other perks of the office.


18 posted on 01/07/2005 7:12:51 PM PST by jonrick46
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Sounds like China got a lot with their illegal campaign donations to Bill Clinton.


19 posted on 01/07/2005 7:13:02 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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Ass much as I dislike clinton, and believe he sold us out, I was shocked as I saw articles about plans the Taiwanese had to buy our systems (PACIII, destroyers, etc) to have them all canceled by this creep. He's a scourge on the world, just not the US.
20 posted on 01/07/2005 7:19:49 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Let the games begin - It's Friday)
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