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Publik Skule vs. Home School
Townhall ^ | 1/8/05 | Doug Giles

Posted on 01/08/2005 5:28:17 PM PST by wagglebee

I was sitting at our neighborhood pool New Year’s morning, enjoying the great South Florida weather while trying to grind out a couple of chapters for my new book, when three high school girls took the chaise lounges next to me and started talking about their New Year’s Eve party with their high school mates.

Seemingly still semi-drunk from the party, the 16- and 17-year-old girls began to recount how much coke, weed, vodka, guys and girls they did the night before. Listening to the F-bomb riddled report of the previous night’s peccadilloes left me thinking, how sad … and … what a waste … and … thank God my wife and I yanked our kids out of the public school system and away from these visionless, dissolute and spoiled morons.

It’s been eleven months since we pulled our teenage daughters out of the public school system and started to home school them, and I could kick myself for waiting so long. The educational, emotional, spiritual and physical progress they have made has been amazing. Not that they were anti-intellectual psychologically teetering bloated decadent nut jobs before they started home schooling, it’s just that I’ve been ecstatically stunned at how they have aggressively embraced this new lease on their educational life.

Now … they actually get to study the basics, pursue their educational and athletic interests, without waiting for the 186% overcrowded class to decide to cease fighting and copulating long enough that the teacher can teach the students how to write their name so that they can endorse their unemployment check later on in life.

Also, it seems that our alpha females really do not miss . . .
· Having everything they hold dear from a Christian standpoint trashed like a hotel room with Sum41 in it, by secular and atheistic teachers and students,
· Enduring the daily physical assaults and threats made by the multitudinous scum bag thugs and punk gang bangers on campus,
· Watching the constant drug trafficking, and
· Trying to ignore the lesbian, queer and over-the-top heterosexual make-out sessions during their lunch break.

Instead of being the goofy-looking home-schooled inbred stooges portrayed by TV and movies, my ladies are sharp, solid and full of holy chutzpah. Yeah … they’re clipping along at a nice pace, taking classes like macro-economics, logic, Latin, intelligence and national security, and afterward, pursuing the martial art of jiu-jitsu from the world-famous Gracie family, surfing and occasionally going with me big game hunting and fishing. Getting away from the prison-like public school system has caused their spirit and vision to soar even higher as they have resolutely separated from the pack and decided to run their own lives, rather than schlep with the lemmings.

My ClashPoint is this: parent . . . home schooling isn’t as tough as you think it is. With the advent of online virtual schools, plus the tens of thousands of people who have bailed out of the system, there are afforded to you, the home schooling parent and student, amazing resources, local networks of like-minded families and world-class curricula, to help you help yours be the leaders God intends for them to be.

Initially, I was a bit concerned about how home schooling was going to work within the insanity which is the Giles household, but it has been relatively painless. The adjustments my wife and I have had to make to our routine to accommodate our daughters for greatness are far less painful than the worry and concern we had sending them off to the monkey jungle which is the Public School system.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: education; educations; fasttrack; fl; florida; homeschool; homeschooling; homeschoollist; publicschools; schoolgirls; schools; sex; students; teachers; teensex; wod; wodlist
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To: PleaseNoMore; nmh

"I didn't call you anything."

Post #468 "You are delusional."

Post #475 "What an idiot."

Post #491 "You are a liar."

Post #498 "You can't so that makes you a LIAR."


541 posted on 01/09/2005 12:03:04 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: BobL

Ring them old alarm bells. Just found a book on FR that supports your conspiracy theory, Bob.

It's an extraordinary book, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt. This former senior official with the US Department of Education found a fat compendium of research, copied it, and fled. She discovered the mother lode and is one of America’s unsung heroes.

Read more at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1294232/posts?page=1

Among other things, she found a 584-page catalogue of behavior modification programs to be used by the schools.
Let me repeat that: a catalogue of behavior modification programs! We’re not talking about programs to teach students anything academic. We are talking about programs to indoctrinate children passing through the system to believe in values contrary to those on which this nation was based.


542 posted on 01/09/2005 12:03:28 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: The Coopster

Thanks for the ping !


543 posted on 01/09/2005 12:04:23 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: BobL

As I said earlier and you just confirmed: Breathtakingly arrogant.

You seem to have good intentions, but really, take a step back and think about what you're saying.

(I had figured that's what you meant but couldn't quite believe someone would have the nerve to say that, but there it is...)


544 posted on 01/09/2005 12:05:06 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: annyokie; Gabz
"She is not "making it up."

Perhaps not, but why does she then come on to this thread and start complaining about what someone else on some other thread said? While someone else on some other thread may be at fault for stirring things up to no good purpose, Gabz herself initiated the entire line of reasoning out of the clear blue sky on this thread.

Such behavior smacks of defensiveness, when one defends oneself by attacking others for no reason. It is like Bart Simpson saying, "I didn't do it. It's not my fault. You can't prove it." when someone just walks into the room. One has to suspect that Bart has a guilty conscience when he says such things.
545 posted on 01/09/2005 12:14:08 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: exnavychick
You were included because The Coopster included you in his/her post to you which referenced Gabz claiming that I think she is "evil incarnate" despite the fact that I did not post anything to support Gabz claim.

Please feel free to ignore any posts that do not interest you.
546 posted on 01/09/2005 12:17:54 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: All

Please. Pretty please, can't we all just get along?

Now don't everybody jump on me, but it appears to me this discussion has deteriorated into The Pejorative Times. Could I suggest a few ground rules so this thread is more fun?

1. Stay on the subject, unless you have a signed note from your teacher, doctor, or mommy stating that you suffer from attention deficit disorder.
2. While we don’t want to descend to the inanities of Congress (“the HON-orable gentleman from Massachusetts . .”), is it too much to ask that all insults be witty?
3. Only 8 repeats of stuff you talked about 100 posts ago.
4. Take pity on the others who have to read your post - - ask yourself would a dweeb of average intelligence find it interesting?
5. It’s not fair or humane to form “cliques” as if we were all suddenly transported back to high school. Sugary little compliments should include everybody!
6. Finally, leave nastiness to the DU creeps.

(Sorry if I have offended anybody but Sunday is my day for making lists.)


547 posted on 01/09/2005 12:20:10 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: exnavychick
'I am not attempting to denigrate anyone with that post, but make some observations"

I quite understand and please understand that when I post that I do not want my daughter to have pre-marital sex, since it could lead to her having an illegitimate child, it is simply a general observation and not intended to denigrate anyone in particular.
548 posted on 01/09/2005 12:20:56 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: BobL
While overall, I discount an intentional conspiracy theory regarding education, I will stick to my conspiracy thoughts on Bilingual Education - unless someone can give me a better answer.

Based upon what you related, I can't blame you a bit for your position.

There is a reading program here that is sponsored by the county school district and the local community collge. It is geared toward preparing kids for kindergarten/1st grade, but is family oriented and emphasizes family participation in the learning process.

My daughter is far too advanced to really participate in the weekly reading hour or the weekly projects they send home for those participating, but it is such a valuable program that I volunteer and participate whenever I can help out.

The district and the CC take care of printing up the papers and distributing them, the minimal costs involved in the monthly "field trips," and the annual "book" that is published.......the purchase price of which goes to cover many of the above mentioned costs. Everything else is done on a volunteer basis.including the program director.

549 posted on 01/09/2005 12:21:50 PM PST by Gabz
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To: annyokie

ROFLMPJO!!!!!!!!!!!!!


550 posted on 01/09/2005 12:23:49 PM PST by Gabz
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To: The Coopster

Thanks Coopster!!!!


551 posted on 01/09/2005 12:24:11 PM PST by Gabz
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To: nmh
There's nothing good about public schools. Nothing

That is your personal opinion, and is no more valid than that of others....nor is it anymore incorrect than the opinions of others.

Since you don't wish to take off your blinders, it becomes your problem not ours.

552 posted on 01/09/2005 12:27:45 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Max Combined

Kiss mah grits.


553 posted on 01/09/2005 12:31:15 PM PST by Gabz
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To: cyncooper
"As I said earlier and you just confirmed: Breathtakingly arrogant.

You seem to have good intentions, but really, take a step back and think about what you're saying."


Really - I thought it was pretty humble. What I was trying to say was that unless I know you and your situation as well as myself, I am in no position to second-guess your decisions (regardless of what I may have said on early postings).

Is that arrogant?
554 posted on 01/09/2005 12:34:30 PM PST by BobL
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To: Max Combined

I quite understand and please understand that when I post that I do not want my daughter to have pre-marital sex, since it could lead to her having an illegitimate child, it is simply a general observation and not intended to denigrate anyone in particular.
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Well, I would, but since I haven't said anything about that to you on this thread, then I would have to consider that a bit of a cheap shot. In fact, I didn't say anything to you until you posted to me first. The way you did that right now was a back-handed dig, and I'm sure you know it. I won't say anything further about this to you, and I would appreciate it if you leave me out of it, as I asked you to do before.

DO NOT EVER BRING MY CHILD INTO A DISCUSSION UNLESS I DO SO FIRST. In fact, don't ever post to me again, thank you.


555 posted on 01/09/2005 12:35:53 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart.)
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To: Liberty Wins
"Let me repeat that: a catalogue of behavior modification programs! "

It is all well documented, but I am convinced that the parents on this thread that send their kids to public schools are winning this battle, at least at the local level.
556 posted on 01/09/2005 12:36:30 PM PST by BobL
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To: annyokie; Max Combined

I'm not even worrying about it....let alone going to lose any sleep over it.

We all form our opinions and make our choices based upon many facets of input, including personal experience. what may seem wrong to one person, is right to another.

Remember: one man's trash may very well be another's treasure.


557 posted on 01/09/2005 12:37:11 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Max Combined
No one claims that ALL public school are bad...

Now that is an out and out lie. It has been said on this very thread.

558 posted on 01/09/2005 12:39:09 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Max Combined; Gabz; nmh; PleaseNoMore
No one claims that ALL public school are bad,

Au contraire. Read nmh's comments.

559 posted on 01/09/2005 12:41:20 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: Max Combined

What's this? A sampling of that "Christian" teaching that your daughter got/gets?


560 posted on 01/09/2005 12:42:51 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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