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1 posted on 01/20/2005 11:04:20 AM PST by MikeEdwards
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Bump & Ping


2 posted on 01/20/2005 11:09:24 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: MikeEdwards

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3 posted on 01/20/2005 11:10:20 AM PST by John Lenin
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I would think that other arguably "genetically based behaviors" that result in higher health problems (alcoholism, obesity, etc.) result in higher insurance rates. i don't know.

what I DO know is that these other behaviors are not encouraged through state-created institutions, with the attendant tax and other benefits.

Just a thought.


4 posted on 01/20/2005 11:13:32 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: MikeEdwards
BUMP

YES!!

5 posted on 01/20/2005 11:17:38 AM PST by upchuck (Multitasking means screwing up several things at once.)
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To: MikeEdwards
Funny, the homosexual lifestyle is more damaging and dangerous than 30 years of smoking cigarettes. Will lawyers sue "big gay," will we see television commercials telling teens not to do it, will will tax them...?
8 posted on 01/20/2005 11:24:15 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: MikeEdwards
This is not a new issue.
In the mid-eighties, when gays realized that they were particularly vulnerable to a premature death, many tried, after being diagnosed, to get "insurance". The remarkable thing is that instead of laughter, they got not only support, but actually a legislative re-definition of the word "insurance".

It has since become a euphemism for officially subsidizing perversion.

9 posted on 01/20/2005 11:24:39 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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Before I retired from a large bank here in town, it was a noted thing far a homosexal to be off work for five months 29 days then the homosexal supervisor would let them come back and set around one day so they would be able to draw another six months off on disabilty.This went on till the bank went out of business


10 posted on 01/20/2005 11:27:50 AM PST by Ibredd
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To: MikeEdwards
this just might be an opportune moment to discuss some rarely mentioned health problems inherent within the allegedly avant garde homosexual lifestyle.

GASP! No not THAT! It's all Bush's fault, not theirs!

/sarcasm

11 posted on 01/20/2005 11:28:01 AM PST by Terriergal ("arise...kill...eat." Acts 10:13)
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"An analysis conducted at the end of 1997 by the Centers for Disease Control revealed that fully 60 percent of all AIDS cases in the United States are found among homosexual men. This is an amazingly high figure, especially when we consider that homosexuals--contrary to Kinsey's flawed study and fabricated "one-in-ten" myth--constitute only about 1 to 2 percent of our total population."

Funny how a small minority of the population is the largest contributor to AIDS. 98% of the population shouldn't pay the increased insurance benefits for 2% of the population's high risk behavior. A convicted drunk driver pays higher car insurance rates (high risk) compared to those who maintain a clean driving record. It shouldn't be any different here.


13 posted on 01/20/2005 11:36:00 AM PST by MadAnthony1776 ("liberalism" = "do as I say, not as I do")
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To: MikeEdwards

It is an indisputable biological dead end.


14 posted on 01/20/2005 11:45:23 AM PST by loborojo (What the hell is a "Reagan Democrat"?)
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To: MikeEdwards

The queer mafia are nothing but parasites.


15 posted on 01/20/2005 11:48:34 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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Smokers have to pay more for insurance, because of the added health risk. It makes sense to put an "HIV rider" on policies, to be purchased by those who think they need it, and ignored by those who, because of a less promiscuous lifestyle, may not feel the need for it. That makes more sense than expecting everybody in the insurance pool to be penalized for the behavior of a few.


16 posted on 01/20/2005 11:49:53 AM PST by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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Unprotected homosexual intercourse is far more dangerous than smoking. Smokers pay more for / cannot get the cheapest health insurance. The implication is obvious, but political correctness prevents do the right thing from a business perspective.


17 posted on 01/20/2005 11:59:28 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: MikeEdwards

Just as young men have to pay more then girls for car insurance, queers should pay more then normal people for life and health insurance.


21 posted on 01/20/2005 12:33:26 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: MikeEdwards

Interesting ... but this would apply to homosexual men not hommosexual women.


23 posted on 01/20/2005 12:42:44 PM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: MikeEdwards
Communism is homosexual action.

Homosexual action is communism.

It, they, whatever, does not believe in paying anything.

It is all about obsessive self-absorption in the manner of a black hole, sucking in everything, taking, grasping, consuming, lusting, grabbing, fanatically, painstakingly, fussing over every means possible ... to get attention and get everything and make sure that nobody else has more than, aborting anything of any higher means, higher value, higher standard, higher purpose, higher ambitions, higher anything, real or imagined, in the path of "the long march."

With one goal for each marcher: Get the other guy to pay.

You might think, that with a monopoly on sensitivity, that "gay people" would be first to abstain from homosexual action that reproduced AIDS and HIV to the point of killing hundreds of thousands, if not by now, millions, over the last 25 years.

Very sensitive, that.

No. Not really.

It's about obsession and screw the other guy in the name of sameness.

It's about living a lie, defying the gift of life.

24 posted on 01/20/2005 2:27:55 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: MikeEdwards

This story ought to be emailed to ALL ACLU offices throughout the U.S.


27 posted on 01/21/2005 5:22:23 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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Homosexuals Should Pay More Insurance - Nathan Tabor

With the big flap over so-called "gay marriage" temporarily on the back burner -- now that their fearless but feckless leader John Kerry has gone down in flames, and with the first government-sanctioned same-sex unions already ending nastily in divorce courts and bitter custody battles -- this just might be an opportune moment to discuss some rarely mentioned health problems inherent within the allegedly avant garde homosexual lifestyle.

Some would say it is a known fact that most homosexuals, and especially gay men, are promiscuous. Their rhetoric is carefully crafted to give the impression they are in "committed, caring relationships" while research suggests that the vast majority of gays are neither celibate nor monogamous. (All heterosexuals are not celibate or monogamous either.)

Some may say, so what? Well, the corollary to this homosexual health hypothesis is another proven fact: most sexually active homosexuals simply don’t live a very long time. The heartier they party, it seems, the shorter the time that party lasts.

According to a article entitled The Longevity of Homosexuals in the Omega Journal of Death and Dying, the median age of death from AIDS for homosexual men is 37, and the median age of death from other causes is 42. This does not compare favorably to the ever-increasing average lifespan of the rest of the heterosexual American population.

An analysis conducted at the end of 1997 by the Centers for Disease Control revealed that fully 60 percent of all AIDS cases in the United States are found among homosexual men. This is an amazingly high figure, especially when we consider that homosexuals -- contrary to Kinsey's flawed study and fabricated "one-in-ten" myth -- constitute only about 1 to 2 percent of our total population.

The conclusion is simple. Homosexual activists say they want equal rights and treatment. Fine. Let’s use their own arguments against them here. Let’s start by having them pay their fair share of the healthcare costs that accompany their lifestyle.

Long-term medical treatment for HIV and AIDS is usually protracted and tremendously expensive. Maybe that’s why gay activists are pushing so hard for spousal benefits for domestic partners of homosexuals -- so somebody else, like the government or an employer, will pick up the tab.

"Risky" behavior is called risky for a reason. It means that by doing it, you put your life in danger. It’s really a lot like gambling for high stakes. The more you play, the more you stand to lose. For indulging in this risky behavior, you rightfully SHOULD pay more for both life and health insurance.

This isn’t a religious or even a moral values argument. This is strictly a common sense fiscal argument. You play risky, you pay more. That’s only fair. In fact, if these types of policies aren’t implemented, then health-conscious people are the ones being discriminated against.

You can’t blame the insurance companies for charging more. After all, their likelihood of having to pay out large sums of money on behalf of their gay clients is significantly greater.

Drinking and smoking, for example, are all directly related to dozens of diseases and medical conditions. So insurance companies habitually charge higher premiums. But non-smokers, non-drinkers and those who exercise get better rates than those who don’t practice such healthy lifestyle choices.

What about skydivers, hang gliders, and racecar drivers -- do they pay the same life insurance premiums as those who watch birds or collect stamps? Not hardly.

The same logic should be applied to practicing homosexuals. When actuaries and insurance underwriters finally figure out this formula, we may see some instantaneous lifestyle changes.

After all, their risky homosexual behavior is a lifestyle choice, not a destiny. If the proven threat to their health won’t do the trick, maybe the cost to their pocketbooks will.
30 posted on 01/21/2005 9:07:59 AM PST by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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To: MikeEdwards

It's nothing more than the OL "BANG" for the Buck Theory we all have to face!!


31 posted on 01/21/2005 9:21:21 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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