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Homeland Security Agents Force Plane to Land in San Antonio
WOAI ^ | 1/24/2005 | ElephantinTexas

Posted on 01/24/2005 10:12:18 PM PST by ElephantinTexas

This is my first post so I hope I got it right.

This is breaking here in San Anonio. A single engine plane has been forced down at Stenson Field south of San Antonio. Homeland Security, DPS and SAPD are on the scene. They are waiting for a Chinese tranlator but they have Chinese illegals in custody and said that the pilot was someone Homeland Security has been looking for.

I'll post more as it comes available.


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To: Lijahsbubbe
A Syrian no less?

You must be mistaken. He's not a pilot - he's the drummer for Milli Vanilli.

161 posted on 01/25/2005 9:21:29 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: Daaave

FYI...

Here's a link on Operation Noble Eagle. This is the name of the DOD and Homeland Security operation for our defense of the nation. You may want to do a google search to find out more.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/noble-eagle.htm


162 posted on 01/25/2005 9:31:28 AM PST by Chevy34
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To: piasa; Southack; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Squantos; Travis McGee

Are our MSM mediots omitting that these Chinese are probably Islamofascists?


163 posted on 01/25/2005 9:37:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: ElephantinTexas
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Chinese Illegals? And how did they get here? A Southern border crossing perhaps...?
164 posted on 01/25/2005 9:43:37 AM PST by KMC1
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To: ElephantinTexas; piasa; EdReform; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Squantos; Travis McGee; SierraWasp

How many air miles is Stinson from Crawford?

Thanks for your posting of this thread and welcome to FR!


165 posted on 01/25/2005 9:45:23 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: conservative in nyc; piasa; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Squantos; Travis McGee; MeekOneGOP; mhking; ...

Excellent find.

"Here's the plane's registration info":

AFZAL HAMEED
Co-Owned
30 OLD RUDNICK LN
DOVER, DE 19901 US

This may just tie in the possibility that these Chinese are Islamofacists with connections to al Qaeda and other Islamonazis.


166 posted on 01/25/2005 9:48:29 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: ElephantinTexas
I commend all FReepers to watch the BBC film "Dirty War", now playing on HBO, randomly. It is by far the most accurate depiction thus far of what we will most certainly face in the future. No sugar-coating, no Jack Bauer rush in to save us (although I do love "24")...just raw reality. I also recommend THIS FR THREAD on the subject which includes some stunning info on what even a smaller device would do to D.C. and NYC.
167 posted on 01/25/2005 9:51:51 AM PST by montag813
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To: ElephantinTexas

Hey, they're just doing the irradiating that Americans don't want to do.


168 posted on 01/25/2005 9:51:57 AM PST by martin_fierro (Hines Ward is my son! OK, not really, but it'd be nice.)
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To: jriemer; piasa; Shermy; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Scary find by you:

"The FAA records state that the plane's last three-year registration was filed in 1999, and that the agency received no response in 2002 after mailing new registration forms to Hameed. !!!"


169 posted on 01/25/2005 9:54:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: conservative in nyc
1) No way Afzal Hameed actually lives in Dover, Delaware. The 30 Old Rudnick Lane address is likely a mail forwarding service of a Delaware professional services firm. A Google search brings up tons of corporations "headquartered" at that address.

You are correct; the company is CorpAmerica, which is now owned by Lexis/Nexis. I've done some IT work for them at that address.

They provide incorporating services and registered agent services.

170 posted on 01/25/2005 9:58:04 AM PST by cooldog (Islam is a criminal conspiracy to commit mass murder ... deal with it!)
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To: Grampa Dave

So the plane was illegal too?

Not too smart.


171 posted on 01/25/2005 10:02:55 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: naturalized
Yahoo Search: Alpha Tango Flying Services-San Antonio

Google Search: Alpha Tango Flying Services-San Antonio
172 posted on 01/25/2005 10:03:41 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: snopercod; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...

173 posted on 01/25/2005 10:11:37 AM PST by Aeronaut (Proud to be a monthly donor.)
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To: conservative in nyc
Medical Class : Second Medical Date: 08/2004

Could someone who knows more about pilot registration explain this? Does this mean he was issued some kind of extension on his pilot's license? After he failed to file registration papers for the plane?

174 posted on 01/25/2005 10:24:43 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: bayourod
If we had a 40,000 foot high fence across the border they couldn't have gotten over it.

Finally, an excellent suggestion! We have plenty of missles that will reach 40,000 feet. That will make a most effective "fence".

You got your thinking cap on today, Rod 'ol boy.

175 posted on 01/25/2005 10:26:24 AM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Holie Crap.... here's the noon update from KENS 5 and KSAT 12 here in San Antonio.

I'm watching two tv's and was writing as fast as I could.

There were TWO planes forced down in this sting. The second plane was forced down at Bergstrom, AFB in Austin, TX. The only details I got on it was there were three Mexican Nationals and the pilot was also a Mexican Nat'l and the plane left out last night from Laredo, Tx.

On the first plane here in San Antonio, they had an interview with our infamous Hameed Afzal right here in SA! He said that he has been renting this plane out to a certified FAA pilot (no name given) several times over the past few months and would start "doing better back ground checks of the people he rents his planes to".
Mr. Afzal is from Pakistan and his wife is currently being investigated about a website she has threatening the CIA.

Other officials said that the yet unknown pilot was smuggling the Chinese illegals in for around $100,000 a pop and the plane left Eagle Pass, Tx. last night.

Whew..... I think I got it all and if I missssssplled anything, I'm sorry. I still haven't been to bed.


176 posted on 01/25/2005 10:29:20 AM PST by ElephantinTexas (Republican ladies are the fairest of them all!)
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To: BurbankKarl

LOL Asa didn't want it to happen on his watch! Bad for future career advancements.


177 posted on 01/25/2005 10:41:12 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: ElephantinTexas; Grampa Dave

So we didn't catch them as they crossed the border?

Very interesting......

We must have gotten tips from someone.


178 posted on 01/25/2005 10:42:39 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: bahblahbah
Anyone know how about the technologies that go into detecting low flying airplanes?

Aerostats positioned 10,000 feet over America’s southern border provide effective intrusion alarms

by Tech. Sgt. John B. Dendy IV, photos by Tech. Sgt. John Lasky

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Hey, hey hey, drug smugglers. Say “hi” to Fat Alberts — burly remote-controlled balloons officially known as the tethered Aerostat Radar Systems.

Aerostats perform very unusual and highly sensitive communications duties for elite government law enforcement and broadcasting organizations in situations where no other practical way to do a job exists.

Like a flying intrusion detector, 11 aerostats with inboard radars troll for drug-hauling aircraft, along an arc that stretches from Puerto Rico to Yuma, Ariz. In the early 1990s, one aerostat started flying the powerful antenna for a Voice of America-like TV station, TV Marti. The daily broadcasts show and tell the people of Cuba what their strongman doesn’t want them to know.

Aerostats are packed to their fins with special radar payloads that would have mere hot air balloons, airships or blimps hissing with envy. Airmen — retired and active-duty — are involved. A contracted team of 30 people runs each radar site. Pairs of ground radar airmen visit those outposts for quality assurance. A few calibrate the sensitive onboard gear each year.

Those airmen nurture the future of counterdrug aviation’s front line in the United States. America’s current 12-ship aerostat force runs on gasoline, helium and oxygen to stay aloft. There are three sizes of aerostats, but soon there will only be one, because payload sizes have shrunk. Expect each of today’s federal aerostats to be twice as big as a Goodyear blimp within five years.

The current Fat Alberts use 275,000 to 590,000 cubic feet of helium. The 420,000 size will be the norm, said retired Chief Master Sgt. Stan Zduniak, the tethered aerostat radar system program manager. He and most of the military team work for the Air Combat Command Program Management Squadron, Newport News, Va.

Most balloons “hang around” for five years. When the TV Marti aerostat was replaced last year, a quality assurance team accompanied retired Chief Master Sgt. Mike Pallone, director of engineering and technical operations, Office of Cuba Broadcasting, to view the new aerostat at Tethered Communications in Elizabeth City, N.C.

Fat Alberts come to life — thanks to laser cutting and chemical bonding processes — on the spacious production floors there or at ILC Dover, in Dover, Del. The newest aerostat is up and running fine, Pallone said.

Airborne intrusion system

The Treasury, Justice, Transportation and Defense departments’ ability to deter drug cargo smugglers depends on an airborne intrusion system. Since America’s southern flank isn’t exactly endowed with high-altitude peaks to place such radars on, hovering aerostats with onboard radar do the job.

Fat Albert’s radars work with fixed-wing aircraft radar, to show the threats in North America’s skies. Airmen and federal agents use the live radar data feed to distinguish airborne drug planes from the clutter of daily air traffic headed for America from the south.

The sum of those sensor warnings translates into a call for U.S. Customs, Border Patrol, Coast Guard or Air Force aircraft to meet airborne threats that inevitably turn up onscreen. Examples of threats range from Payne Stewart’s ill-fated jet, to pilots making airdrops and strange stops under falsified flight plans.

Federal responders include the Florida Air National Guard’s F-15 fighter airmen, on air defense alert duty at Homestead Air Reserve Base near Miami

179 posted on 01/25/2005 10:46:59 AM PST by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail, Chimpus Khan!])
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To: fivecatsandadog

The enemy of my enemy is my friend? China-Arab partners?


180 posted on 01/25/2005 10:47:29 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (I can no longer discern reality from satire on this site. America is losing her common sense.)
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