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Republicans Squaring Off Over Bush Plan on Immigration
NY Times ^
| January 27, 2005
| DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Posted on 01/27/2005 7:15:50 PM PST by neverdem
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To: NRA2BFree
Okay I see your point BAD idea!
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posted on
01/27/2005 7:52:39 PM PST
by
stopem
To: neverdem
Why has Bush ordered the Iraqi border sealed during the Iraqi elections, but says our southern border is impossible to protect?
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posted on
01/27/2005 7:53:55 PM PST
by
Noachian
(We're all one judge away from tyranny.)
To: NorCalRepub
this is my hot button issue..... It is the hot button issue of most of us in California and the other border states. We're getting the brunt of this invasion, and we're paying big bucks for it, not millions, but BILLIONS. Enough is enough!
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posted on
01/27/2005 7:58:01 PM PST
by
janetgreen
(Uh, President Bush, do you know (or care) that Mexico is invading us?)
To: neverdem
"I know there is a compassionate, humane way to deal with this issue. I want to remind people that family values do not end at the Rio Grande border."
He can take his compassion and shove it where the sun doesn't shine!
At least half of the border patrol should be arresting employers and deporting the illegals that work for them after fining and giving them a jail sentence
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posted on
01/27/2005 7:58:37 PM PST
by
dalereed
To: LibertarianInExile
I think we need to make Congress and the President do what they swore to do, to defend the Constitution and the U.S.A., instead. Unfortunately, Congress is NOT going to stand up to the President. A few will, but not enough to make a difference. We've got too many CFR/globalists in our government.
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:00:12 PM PST
by
NRA2BFree
(NO AMNESTY, NO UN, NO PC, NO WHINY @SS LIBERAL BETTERS, NO LIBERAL JUDGES!!)
To: neverdem
"Party conservatives, however, have strenuously opposed a guest worker plan " Only a very vocal few and only because the Old Media will give them publicity for opposing President Bush. Isn't it odd that the NY Times and Washington Post are leading the crusade against illegal immigrants?
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:00:41 PM PST
by
bayourod
(America, the greatest nation in history is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants are an asset.)
To: COEXERJ145
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:01:02 PM PST
by
jveritas
To: lindor
Here's some mud--Bush is a gutless cowardly jackass!
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:03:49 PM PST
by
rottndog
(STOP JEB NOW----NO MORE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: stopem
Okay I see your point BAD idea!LOL! I wish I could win all arguments like this. :)
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:05:49 PM PST
by
NRA2BFree
(NO AMNESTY, NO UN, NO PC, NO WHINY @SS LIBERAL BETTERS, NO LIBERAL JUDGES!!)
To: neverdem
"Immigrants are not terrorists, except a few of them," he said. "The legislation that was introduced today is designed to get the bad apples out of the barrel before the barrel was spoiled." What a stupid statement. There isn't anything in this bill that culls terrorists from laborers.
The only reason the anti-immigrants want to deny drivers' licenses to illegals is they think that will give citizens a competitive advantage in the job competition.
But if anyone can't compete with an illegal immigrant for a job now, this bill won't make any difference. In a non-union state you can't force employers to hire bad workers. They'll just relocate to a business-friendly state. If we cripple American businesses enough they'll just relocate over seas.
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:09:29 PM PST
by
bayourod
(America, the greatest nation in history is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants are an asset.)
To: janetgreen
and I heard today that Feinstein above all people is bringing up a bill that will reimburse Cal from the 500 million to 1 billion for illegal alien prisoners etc. bout time we get more money back from the feds for the money we pour into illegals.
To: NorCalRepub
this is my hot button issue..... Mine too... Make the fine sting for employers with a 25,000 fine per illegal they hire. Then enforce it.
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:14:18 PM PST
by
LowOiL
("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
To: NorCalRepub
Feinstein?? That's a shocker! I still think the bills should be sent to Vicente Fox with a big "PAY NOW" sticker. American taxpayers should not have to pay these huge bills, and shame on George W. Bush and those who preceded him for allowing this mess.
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:14:31 PM PST
by
janetgreen
(Uh, President Bush, do you know (or care) that Mexico is invading us?)
To: lindor
Agreed.
Bush is a good man but, he is totally off the mark on this immigration thing. I'll never support worker program. Catch the illegals and drive their asses back to mexico.
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:15:38 PM PST
by
processing please hold
(Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
To: bayourod
So, people who don't believe in giving legal documents to people who break our laws to get here are anti-immigrant?
Immigrants are an asset, however, tens of millions of ILLEGAL immigrants are an unsustainably crushing burden.
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:16:36 PM PST
by
rottndog
(STOP JEB NOW----NO MORE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: neverdem
We need to tighten controls on immigration and better protect our borders. And try to remove as many illegal aliens as we can. Its both a national secrity and quality of life issue. Sure we'll pay a few cents more for groceries and restaurant meals. But what's more important - keeping prices low or keeping our country safe? I'd gladly pay a little extra to make sure another 9/11 never again happens here.
Denny Crane: "I want two things: First God and then Fox News."
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:17:05 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: neverdem
"In an interview, Representative Chris Cannon, a Utah Republican who supports the president's plan, said a guest worker program would not amount to an amnesty because it would include a monetary penalty for currently illegal immigrants. "The people who want to kick them all out are not reasonable people," he said."
This has to be the most asinine statement. A monetary penalty doesn't do squat to undo the damage illegals cause American citizens. Bush's plan also enables terrorists to hide behind legitimacy.
To: neverdem
OK then, I am not a "reasonable person". I want them ALL kicked out and ALL their assets in this nation forfeited to he government to pay their bills. There is no other crime where one gets to keep the fruits of the crime. Why should this be any different?
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:18:25 PM PST
by
dzzrtrock
("If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat" (Ronaldus Magnus))
To: JustAnotherSavage
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posted on
01/27/2005 8:20:50 PM PST
by
lainde
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