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Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo
UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: houeto
Nor can we explain why the moon does not spin with relation to the Earth. That one always gets me.

Easily explained:

The Moon rotates in the same direction as it revolves, and it is gravitationally locked into a 1:1 synchronization because the the formerly molten rock have cooled and solidified, and the resulting shape is permamently oriented with its major axis pointing toward the earth. This type of gravitational synchronization is fairly common in the solar system, almost always with a ratio of 1:1.

Now be a good guy and find out how many planets exhibit similar rotations.

461 posted on 02/08/2005 11:49:39 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: From many - one.
Mammal hybrids. Has links at the end to more.
462 posted on 02/08/2005 11:50:16 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Modernman
I meant nervous in the same way as a sheep is nervous around a drunk Scotsman.

Someone pinged me awhile ago and informed me that I may not have understood your post. I could only smile then.

463 posted on 02/08/2005 11:50:40 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: DannyTN
But to go from a hippo to a whale. That's just not believable.

I don't care what you might personally find "believable" or not -- the evidence overwhelmingly indicates that it did indeed happen, so either you need to learn about the evidence and see for yourself, or continue to sit there in the corner mumbling, "I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it..."

464 posted on 02/08/2005 11:51:11 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Modernman

"...The liger example shows, IMO, that speciation is a gradual process with lots of gray areas. As species drift further apart, such as house cats and lions, it becomes clear that they are distinct. However, some species are still close enough that thay can interbreed."

Exactly.


465 posted on 02/08/2005 11:51:49 AM PST by From many - one. (formerly e p1uribus unum)
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To: Modernman
I meant nervous in the same way as a sheep is nervous around a drunk Scotsman.

Come on, why pick on the Scottish? Couldn't you have said the French or maybe the Arabs?
466 posted on 02/08/2005 11:51:55 AM PST by Jaysun (Nefarious deeds for hire.)
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To: Jaysun

Since the beginning is "Day One" then the later passages are in error or Genesis is in error or you cannot literally interpret Genesis or other parts of the Bible.


467 posted on 02/08/2005 11:52:28 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: DannyTN
No, that sounds like the arguments evolutionists make. "No one can disprove evolution, therefore creation is false."

I don't know a *single* evolutionist who makes that argument -- or *would* make such a moronic argument.

If someone says something that you *think* is that, then you weren't listening closely enough.

468 posted on 02/08/2005 11:52:54 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Modernman
I meant nervous in the same way as a sheep is nervous around a drunk Scotsman.

"I built that bridge, but do they call me Ian the bridgemaker? No. I built that church, but do they call me Ian the churchbuilder? No. But screw one sheep ..."

469 posted on 02/08/2005 11:53:46 AM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Mamzelle
I linked twice--just start with the title..."Changing one gene launches new species"-- people are free to go read it and decide whether there's a new fly, or a shoo fly.

I've read it, which is how I know that you've grossly misrepresented both the paper, and the subsequent discussion.

I don't know whether you've done so out of confusion, or dishonesty, but neither option inspires confidence.

470 posted on 02/08/2005 11:54:54 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Jaysun
Come on, why pick on the Scottish?

Why do Scotsmen wear kilts?

Because a sheep can hear a zipper being lowered at 500 feet.

471 posted on 02/08/2005 11:57:25 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: DannyTN
Yes, I don't buy evolutionist's claim that "statistical improbability" is not a valid argument.

Sure it's a valid argument. Now show us your math, which accurately models biological processes. We'll wait.

What's that? You say you *don't* have any actual statistical calculations based on valid models, nor do you know how such a calculation would be performed, you just don't "feel" like such a thing would be likely enough to actually happen?

(Feel free to prove me wrong... But until then, I call BS...)

By the way, evolutionists argue from incredulity all the time when they say, "It must have been from natural causes, because a designer is unbelievable"

I call BS *again* on you. Provide a cite to *any* evolutionist who has actually argued such an idiotic point in that way -- or retract your bogus accusation.

I'm getting *really* tired of the unsupported accusations from you folks. Put up or shut up.

472 posted on 02/08/2005 11:59:01 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: WildTurkey
Since the beginning is "Day One" then the later passages are in error or Genesis is in error or you cannot literally interpret Genesis or other parts of the Bible.

The beginning is only "Day One" in your mind - oh wait. Never mind. Christ had it wrong and you're right on the money. Your forefathers, my forefathers, the billions of people that have gone before us, the more than one billion people alive today.....they're all imbeciles. For thousands of years a great deal of people the world over has been full of sh*t. Idiots! But not you. No sir, you've got it all figured out.
473 posted on 02/08/2005 11:59:26 AM PST by Jaysun (Nefarious deeds for hire.)
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To: Modernman
Why do Scotsmen wear kilts? Because a sheep can hear a zipper being lowered at 500 feet.

LOL! But hey, there's always one or two that get stuck in the fence. As John Denver said, "Thank God I'm a Country Boy!!"
474 posted on 02/08/2005 12:02:01 PM PST by Jaysun (Nefarious deeds for hire.)
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To: WildTurkey
It's spin rate exactly matches it's rate of revolution around the earth.

The odds of this occurrence are infinitesimal.

475 posted on 02/08/2005 12:03:35 PM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: Ichneumon
I'm getting *really* tired of the unsupported accusations from you folks. Put up or shut up.

I predict they will do neither. It's creationism, y'know.

476 posted on 02/08/2005 12:05:40 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: DannyTN

Why would whales need to be on the Ark?


477 posted on 02/08/2005 12:07:11 PM PST by From many - one. (formerly e p1uribus unum)
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To: houeto

Actually, they're not. The Moon is tidally-locked to the Earth. A number of other satellites in the Solar System are also tidally-locked to their primaries.


478 posted on 02/08/2005 12:08:07 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: houeto
The odds of this occurrence are infinitesimal.

No. They are predicted by scientific theory and the conservation of angular momentum. In fact, in billions of years from now, people on the moon will only see one side of the earth!

479 posted on 02/08/2005 12:11:09 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Mamzelle
[Whatever you say, hon.]

Hon? Childish. It's been fun watching the Descent of the Species.

Oh NO you don't... Don't you *DARE* try to pull that horsecrap...

You know, the "we anti-evolutionists are so genteel and refined, while those evolutionists are childish, name-calling brutes..." horsecrap.

I don't think anyone needs to be reminded that YOUR VERY FIRST POST on this thread was a snarky, *CHILDISH* remark on the article which started the thread, wherein you dismissively called evolutionary biologists "Evo-shamans" in search of a "juicy little grant for the seekers of PhD Welfare".

Your *second* post childishly asked, "Does this make you pope, or something?" and spoke of "no religious fanatic so obnoxious as the doctrinaire PhD crank longing for tenure and relevance".

Your *third* post sarcastically called me "so pious [...] So righteous! Righteous me a Grant!" and suggested "an altar to Hopeless Tenure Track and Our Lady of Perpetual Unemployability."

And on, and on, and on...

So don't get all taken over by the vapors *now* just because I returned a *small* portion of your own attitude in kind by condescendingly calling you "hon"...

What a hypocrite you are... Have you no shame? Ah, hell, don't bother answering that -- you won't deal with it directly anyway, and the answer is already entirely obvious.

480 posted on 02/08/2005 12:11:56 PM PST by Ichneumon
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