Now repent!
Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry
My translation would translate "mayim" the word for water as molecules in this passage. The word for firmament "rakia", has nothing to do with water.
To me, the inspired author/s were given a vision of something they were unable to comprehend. The Hebrew was inadequate to explain the vision, since it would have no word for atoms or molecules.
The idea that Gen 2 flood has anything to do with this passage is far-fetched. If it does, it condemns Gen 1 to be as irrelevant as the pagan tale of Noah.
Just trying to bring the apostate back on the Christian reservation. ;-)
oh, dear, now I need to dust off my bible again...
first off:
gen.1:7 - and God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so
so: the firmament ain't the water
now, on other gods:
gen.4:22 - and the Lord God said, behold, the man is become as one of us
exodus20:3 - thou shalt have no other gods before me. thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image (icon), or any likeness of any thing (totem symbols, etc...) that is in heaven above, in the earth below, or in the water...Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God...
exodus22:20 - He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed
multiple indications of more than one god: use of the plural, also specific mention to earthly things (presumably critters AND other "things" like material wealth etc...) in ADDITION TO the other gods.
all hurriedly typed from the KJV.
what does the Hebrew say?
and, as a side note, what the hell would "two ouches of gold" be???
heh, any caption :)
Since you've devolved to single sentence bald assertions for the last several rounds, I consider the issue closed and well settled. Thanks.
CHARIOTS OF THE GODS!!!
lol! nice
I know your post was not directed to me, but just out of curiosity, have you ever asked for and received answers to these questions before today?
God created evolution.
Reject evolution is to reject God.
Your logic is faulty.
Now repent!
as an aside:
why do so many modern people operate on the blithe assumption that the ancients were stupid or monumentally unobservant?
I just stepped outside to check on my dog. my house fronts the west. I caught a lovely view of the waning crescent moon.
the full disc of the circumference was plainly evident as a pale lavender (with some orange hints) against the deeper blue of the night sky, with plain visual cues that it is a sphere backlit by light reflected from the earth (volumetric shading); the Mare were discernable; the lit crescent was a brilliant yellow-white, with trace of green and blue on the edges; the terminator also had a bit of volumetric shading.
Now, yes: my eyes are about twice as sensitive to light as is the norm for my species. this is a result of a combination of the effects of one of the inherited mutations I carry that mentioned earlier plus a persistent infection of my tear ducts which causes my tears to act a bit like light-gathering coatings on good optics. Plus, I have keen distance-vision: L20:12/R20:15
OTOH, this condition is far from unique to me, nor is it recent in provenance. There have been people with eyes like mine for a very long time - at least from Roman times. Additionally, one would think that back then the skies were less hazy than they are now.
SURELY the ancients could observe what I have observed.
How has it come to pass that we believe the ancients believed that the moon actually changed its shape???
this is but one example.
don't even get me started on the whole "gods/aliens must have built the pyramids because they are so precise" bullshyte.
which questions?
the trial? hundreds of times - usually a lot of stuttering and mental vaporlock.
if not the trial, to which questions do you refer?
oh, dear, now I need to dust off my bible again...
would suffice, sorry it did not. I was referring to your questions listed in post 1683 regarding other gods.
I don't worship the false idol of logic.
well, as I asked no question in that post, save the one: "what the hell is an ouche of gold?"...
;)
ok.
Yes, I have discussed this issue with some folks before - including catholic (jesuit) priests, protestant ministers, and an orthodox rabbi I accosted once on vacation in NYC.
I didn't get what I would call definitive answers from any of them.
oops: my bad!
also: "what does the hebrew say?"
Sorry, after reading the post again, I see that you did not ask questions about the other gods. MY bad.
That is plain for all to see.
s'okay.
ya wouldn't happen to know what an ouche of gold is, wouldja?
I mean, what? is it a lump of gold someone dropped on their foot, or...?
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