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Are You a Man or a Mouse? (Chimeric experimentation produces Human-Animal Hybrids)
Guardian Unlimited ^ | 03/15/05 | Jeremy Rifkin

Posted on 03/15/2005 10:00:29 AM PST by mojito

What happens when you cross a human and a mouse? Sounds like the beginning of a bad joke but, in fact, it's a serious experiment recently carried out by a team headed by a distinguished molecular biologist, Irving Weissman, at Stanford University. Scientists injected human brain cells into mouse foetuses, creating a strain of mice that were approximately 1% human. Weissman is considering a follow-up that would produce mice whose brains are 100% human.

What if the mice escaped the lab and began to proliferate? What might be the ecological consequences of mice who think like human beings, let loose in nature? Weissman says that he would keep a tight rein on the mice, and if they showed any signs of humanness he would kill them. Hardly reassuring.

Experiments like the one that produced a partially humanised mouse stretch the limits of human tinkering with nature to the realm of the pathological.

The new research field at the cutting edge of the biotech revolution is called chimeric experimentation. Researchers around the world are combining human and animal cells and creating chimeric creatures that are part-human, part-animal.

The first chimeric experiment occurred many years ago when scientists in Edinburgh fused a sheep and goat embryo - two unrelated animal species that are incapable of mating and producing a hybrid offspring. The resulting creature, called a geep, was born with the head of a goat and the body of a sheep.

Now, scientists have their sights trained on breaking the final taboo in the natural world - crossing humans and animals to create new human-animal hybrids. Already, aside from the humanised mouse, scientists have created pigs with human blood and sheep with livers and hearts that are mostly human.

The experiments are designed to advance medical research. Indeed, a growing number of genetic engineers argue that human-animal hybrids will usher in a golden era of medicine. Researchers say that the more humanised they can make research animals, the better able they will be to model the progression of human diseases, test new drugs, and harvest tissues and organs for transplantation. What they fail to mention is that there are equally promising and less invasive alternatives to these bizarre experiments, including computer modeling, in vitro tissue culture, nanotechnology, and prostheses to substitute for human tissue and organs.

Some researchers are speculating about human-chimpanzee chimeras - creating a humanzee. This would be the ideal laboratory research animal because chimpanzees are so closely related to us. Chimps share 98% of the human genome, and a fully mature chimp has the equivalent mental abilities and consciousness of a four-year-old human.

Fusing a human and chimpanzee embryo - which researchers say is feasible - could produce a creature so human that questions regarding its moral and legal status would throw 4,000 years of ethics into chaos. Would such a creature enjoy human rights? Would it have to pass some kind of "humanness" test to win its freedom? Would it be forced into doing menial labour or be used to perform dangerous activities?

The possibilities are mind-boggling. For example, what if human stem cells - the primordial cells that turn into the body's 200 or so cell types - were to be injected into an animal embryo and spread throughout the animal's body into every organ? Some human cells could migrate to the testes and ovaries where they could grow into human sperm and eggs. If two of the chimeric mice were to mate, they could potentially conceive a human embryo. If the human embryo were to be removed and implanted in a human womb, the resulting human baby's biological parents would have been mice.

Please understand that none of this is science fiction. The National Academy of Sciences, America's most august scientific body, is expected to issue guidelines for chimeric research some time next month, anticipating a flurry of new experiments in the burgeoning field of human-animal chimeric experimentation.

Bioethicists are already clearing the moral path for human-animal chimeric experiments, arguing that once society gets past the revulsion factor, the prospect of new, partially human creatures has much to offer the human race. And, of course, this is exactly the kind of reasoning that has been put forth to justify what is fast becoming a journey into a brave new world in which all of nature can be ruthlessly manipulated. But now, with human-animal chimeric experiments, we risk even undermining our own species' biological integrity in the name of human progress.

With chimeric technology, scientists have the power to rewrite the evolutionary saga - to sprinkle parts of our species into the rest of the animal kingdom as well as fuse parts of other species with our own genome and even to create new human sub-species and super-species. Are we on the cusp of a biological renaissance, or sowing the seeds of our destruction?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bioengineering; bioethics; chimeras; cloning; ethics; stanford
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To: mojito

"Fusing a human and chimpanzee embryo - which researchers say is feasible - could produce a creature so human that questions regarding its moral and legal status would throw 4,000 years of ethics into chaos. Would such a creature enjoy human rights? Would it have to pass some kind of "humanness" test to win its freedom? Would it be forced into doing menial labour or be used to perform dangerous activities"

A chimp has 4 times the strength of a man per unit of body mass. Imagine a creature who was part human and part chimp with the size of a man.


81 posted on 03/15/2005 1:07:10 PM PST by mdmathis6 (By playing the Devil's advocate, one can often separate self from the Devil!)
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To: dog breath
>>What do you get when you cross a rat and a human? A liberal?<<

Yes but it would be a smart liberal.

Muleteam1

82 posted on 03/15/2005 1:13:29 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: nw_arizona_granny

How do these people sleep at night?????


83 posted on 03/15/2005 1:15:10 PM PST by Velveeta ("Beware the Ides of March")
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To: orionblamblam
Pigs (or other critters) with effectively human organs would make marvelous hervestable sources of blood, organs, tissues, etc.

(Well, well, OBB...we meet again!)
Why not just clone everyone at birth? We can keep the clone in a controlled, perfect-nutrient environment (ever see the movie "The Matrix"?) and as we age or are injured, we can harvest replacement parts and tissue from our identical clone! We can start right now using identical twins.

84 posted on 03/15/2005 1:17:29 PM PST by Ignatz (Scribe of the Unwritten Law)
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To: mojito
... if they showed any signs of humanness he would kill them.

Hey, isn't that the current policy at the DNC?

85 posted on 03/15/2005 1:19:20 PM PST by TChris (Lousy homophobic FReeper troll, religious right, VRWC member)
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To: GSlob

Here he comes, to save the day...........


86 posted on 03/15/2005 1:21:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: orionblamblam

Play


feed me


play


feed me


87 posted on 03/15/2005 1:23:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

...and then there's Teddy Kennedy!


88 posted on 03/15/2005 1:25:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: orionblamblam
...OT laws are just plain silly and evil.

Wow, it takes a particularly arrogant flavor of chutzpah to declare that laws given by God are "silly and evil."

Those laws were given for a particular people in a particular time. Their culture didn't have any Constitution, Bill of Rights or judicial system with trial by a jury of peers. To judge their law from your perspective of comparative pampered ignorance is the very definition of foolishness.

Do yourself a favor and stay far away from Biblical critiques.

89 posted on 03/15/2005 1:25:57 PM PST by TChris (Lousy homophobic FReeper troll, religious right, VRWC member)
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To: TwoWolves
... it's wise to remember God told the Israelites:

..but what if this 'scientist' is not JEWISH????

90 posted on 03/15/2005 1:26:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: stuartcr

only in Arkansas...........



91 posted on 03/15/2005 1:27:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

If, when I set up a mousetrap or place a poisoned bait, I see a mouse passing by and giving me a finger - I'd swear off drinking for at least a year.


92 posted on 03/15/2005 1:27:37 PM PST by GSlob
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To: orionblamblam
Stoning people to death for not following objectively silly laws would *not* make the world better.

This was a punishment for rape.

Now, about your daughter..................

93 posted on 03/15/2005 1:29:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: orionblamblam

Which ones are the SILLY ones?


94 posted on 03/15/2005 1:30:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Velveeta

Watch it!


With a screen name like that, the man-mouse test will get interesting.......


95 posted on 03/15/2005 1:32:17 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: GSlob
Like this??
 

 
 
Or maybe THIS??
 

96 posted on 03/15/2005 1:37:05 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: neutrino
...scientists have created pigs with human blood

So that's where Hillary came from! I knew it!


No; not pigs..........



97 posted on 03/15/2005 1:43:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: mojito
"Weissman is considering a follow-up that would produce mice whose brains are 100% human"

Great. Mice demanding welfare. Just great.

98 posted on 03/15/2005 1:46:45 PM PST by SouthParkRepublican
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To: TChris

Then don;t support the idea that these laws should be applied in the here-and-now.

Of course, there's also the little fact that the OT *and* Jesus declared that those laws would apply forever, so using the "particular people in a particular time" arguement doesn't work either.


99 posted on 03/15/2005 2:00:48 PM PST by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: Elsie

"Don't make statues of birds," for starters.


100 posted on 03/15/2005 2:01:54 PM PST by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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