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Family Feud Still Boils After Schiavo's Death
CNN ^ | 4/1/05

Posted on 04/01/2005 5:34:21 AM PST by marshmallow

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To: Nuzcruizer
As a physician and radiologist I KNOW you are a full of it.

"Cartlage"? "isn't connected"? You are truly clueless
or have other reasons for your disingenuous posts which are not yet clear.

61 posted on 04/01/2005 7:26:04 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: buck61

I believe the end times are being played out right before our very eyes. First, all of the evil inflicted on poor Terri and her horrific death, and now the beloved Pope may be dying with circumstances eerily similar to Terri's. We can console ourselves with this thought, brothers and sisters -- the HINO will get his recompense -- either in this life or the next. God will be his final judge.


62 posted on 04/01/2005 7:26:09 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: marshmallow
Family Feud Still Boils After Schiavo's Death

Deliberately misleading headline.

The "feud" is being fueled by Michael. Despite having a common law wife and family, he refused to give custody of Terri to her parents. He kicked Terri's parents out of Terri's room in her dying moments. He won't tell Terri's parents where he's going to have Terri's ashes interred. What have the Schindler's done to him?

63 posted on 04/01/2005 7:28:31 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: AaronInCarolina

Thanks for the correction.


64 posted on 04/01/2005 7:28:56 AM PST by tomahawk (http://tomahawkblog.blogspot.com/)
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To: Logophile
This looks like it could be the explanation. From the Florida Sixth Circuit website:

The Probate and Guardianship Division handles all cases related to estates, trusts, guardianships, and mental health. These include cases in the mental health area such as Involuntary Commitment, Development Disabilities, Drug or Alcohol Abuse and Elder Abuse, Neglect or Exploitation. In calendar year 1998, 10,198 cases were filed in the circuit.

65 posted on 04/01/2005 7:31:33 AM PST by maryz
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To: Nuzcruizer
If that is true, then why did UNFelos say someone had given Terri a stuffed animal and she was holding in when she died, and Michael didn't want a policeman in the room because he didn't want Terri's last minutes to be with so much acarimony. And why bother with the flowers, she couldn't smell them! And what's with the music...If Terri couldn't hear then why did Michael play it...Because Michael wants it both ways...She's either in there or she's not...And if she wasn't then Michael didn't need to go in for her last minutes...

Also why did UNfelos state that "now is the time for Terri to BEGIN the dying process" when in his mind she was already dead...

66 posted on 04/01/2005 7:31:38 AM PST by queenkathy (I'm working on the forgiveness thing (Nevermind...I'm not)!)
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To: Nuzcruizer

And BTW, I've been reading you posts. You clearly have stated your opinion. So do you just come on these threads to irritate other FReepers? I see you just signed up mid Dec yet in another thread you told someone you'd been here since the beginning...Did you change your name or something and re-sign...Just curious.


67 posted on 04/01/2005 7:33:30 AM PST by queenkathy (I'm working on the forgiveness thing (Nevermind...I'm not)!)
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To: Aquinasfan
He won't tell Terri's parents where he's going to have Terri's ashes interred.

How does anyone know if they will actually be interred anywhere if everything is so secret?

Maybe he will do like they supposedly did to John Kennedy in the middle of the night somewhere.

Refusing her a catholic burial is really weird, especially if his new girlfriend is catholic and smacks of revenge.

I hope thousands of people turn out for her Roman Catholic Mass of the Ressurection. It is awkward that the Schindlers couldn't even have their own parish priests assisting them. I don't know where Father Pavone is from, and much as I respect him, he is not exactly your mainstream priest, or am I wrong on that?

All or many the priests of that diocese ought to turn out in the name of decency to concelebrate her mass. My stepmother had at least five priests in our diocese concelebrate her funeral mass. I think it was because they were her friends because she wasn't anybody that important in the church I don't think.

68 posted on 04/01/2005 7:42:09 AM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: Aliska
Father Pavone is head of Priests for Life.
69 posted on 04/01/2005 7:43:45 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: queenkathy

I can ask you the same thing, why do you come on these threads and keep restating your opinion.?

And why do you wonder why I have more than one nic? Many people do, so what? I have more than one P.c. too. Plus You need them when you have to point out FACTS to people on issues like this where emotion blinds people from the truth.

queenkathy- people put a stuffed animal in her arms, so what? people always bring flowers to people who are hospitalized, so what? None of it mattered to Terri's body. she wasn't aware of them, nor could she think a thought as to what they were, nor see them. There is nothing there to process the information.
It sad what happened to her, yes it is. But that doesn't change the FACTS one bit. People are making up things which aren't true to inject drama. That is wrong.

As I said, They didn't have to do what they did, They could have let her body live for the parents sake. They weren't ready to let go.


70 posted on 04/01/2005 7:49:29 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Aliska

By Michael refusing to share the burial place with her parents he is keeping this whole thing going...His atty Unfelos get up in front of the camera this morning claiming the Schindlers are keeping it going but I see it quite the other way...This is purely payback time from Michael to the Schindlers. His brother showed how the family really is...Too bad for them. If I was the Schindlers I would have my own burial. They do it all the time. There is a monument in SC where the 2 little boys who were drowned by their mom is at. That's where people go to pay their last respects. The Schindlers could do something like that and then Michael loses any power he had over them. He must feel very let down this morning knowing his last days of controlling someone else has ended. Power is great...until it's gone.


71 posted on 04/01/2005 7:50:09 AM PST by queenkathy (I'm working on the forgiveness thing (Nevermind...I'm not)!)
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To: Nuzcruizer
And how do you know people are making things up. The ONLY reason MS has "agreed" to the autopsy is because it is mandated by Florida law. You stated earlier that if he had something to hide he wouldn't have agreed to an autopsy. It's just that I can get your opinion over on DU. It's like every time someone posts a Catholic thread on here everyone jumps on them. I'm not Catholic but let's respect others on here. You have a right to your opinion but you aren't going to change anyones here...Not on this thread. We are grieving for Terri and telling us that her brain wasn't there doesn't help us. Do you understand? Maybe every thing you say about her brain scan is absolutely correct. Time will tell.

And I just wondered why you said you had been her since the beginning yet it shows you recently signed up. That's all. We've been inundated lately with little trolls from DU trying to "help" us understand the Terri was dead 15 yrs ago so I always look to see when they signed up.

72 posted on 04/01/2005 7:55:29 AM PST by queenkathy (I'm working on the forgiveness thing (Nevermind...I'm not)!)
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To: queenkathy

You nailed it. God will have the last word in this mess.


73 posted on 04/01/2005 7:56:10 AM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: queenkathy

"I'm sure the parents didn't ask for half the $$$..."

Someone needs to clarify this at every chance they get. MS and Felos claimed early on that this was all about the money. And the Schindlers were just greedy. The truth of the matter was that after Terri's "accident" Terri's income was lost and MS didn't have a job, either, if memory serves. The Schinders took them into their own home and supported them for a year or more. The Schindlers were not rich people and they only asked for some financial relief after MS received a kings ransom for the care of Terri. MS refused. Couldn't help but notice he was even too cheap to buy Terri a burial plot, but instead is using an extra one belonging to his aunt and uncle,not to mention cremation is the cheaper way to go.


74 posted on 04/01/2005 7:56:31 AM PST by texaslil (and)
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To: DollarCoins
How do you think that any of the other 19 judges could make a ruling without actually seeing facts of the case that was before Judge Greer and the basis on which he made his ruling?

Did you not read? So long as the judge acted within his purvue under the law, an appeals court has no need (and no standing) to determine whether his "facts" were accurate. An appeals court could very easily say (which they in fact did in this case), "Florida law gives the judge the ability to determine her wishes based on testimony, Florida law gives the judge the ability to order her wishes be carried out, Florida law says that a feeding tube is extraordinary means of life support (a law that Felos helped pass during the Schiavo case), therefore the judge has the authority to order the feeding tube removed." That is what appeals court decisions look at, and nowhere in that discussion is one "fact" raised. Once Greer determined the "facts," no other judge ever evaluated them...

75 posted on 04/01/2005 7:56:42 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Still teaching... or a reasonable facsimile thereof...)
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To: marshmallow
" His brother murders their daughter and the Schindlers are supposed to apologize to him? "

Michael treats the mother and father of Terri like total garbage, then he wants an apology. Only a complete idiot would take seriously the concept that Michael cared about Terri.

76 posted on 04/01/2005 8:02:02 AM PST by cookcounty (If a serial bigamist takes 7 common-law wives, can he legally starve all of them to death or only 6?)
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To: Diogenesis
As a physician and radiologist

I have a question for you:

Looking at the scans shown in post #55; would Terri's brain scan look different right after the injury, from the one shown 15 yrs later?

I heard on one news report that the one shown 15 yrs later is shown because Schiavo was trying to make his case. If they showed one done while she was having therapy earlier on, it wouldn't look "so bad".

I have no idea and would be interested in your opinion, if you don't mind responding.

77 posted on 04/01/2005 8:05:41 AM PST by zlala (I used to have a handle on life but it broke.)
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To: Nuzcruizer
You need a brain to do those things, or at least part of one that is 'plugged in'. The cerebal cortex is the "plug", the main part of the brain which carries all these signals. It's missing entirely. No matter how much you insist otherwize, the FACTS are right in front of you that prove otherwize. All you are doing is fabricating drama.

You need a brain to evaluate a CT scan. You are sadly lacking, she has cortical tissue, you are just not qualified to observe it in th scan you posted. Moreover there is literature confirming the FACT that human beings with very small amounts of cortex have IQ's above 100. Didn't know that did you shmuck?

Now go practice your stupid quackery somewhere else moron.

And here's some advice, it is better to be thought a fool than to confirm it for all to see.

78 posted on 04/01/2005 8:06:32 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: xsmommy
I could see part of that link and then something knocked down my browser.

Maybe the Schindlers wanted that priest because they are so pro-life and thought his outspokenness would help sway public opinion.

I'm deeply disturbed that their own parish priests were AWOL through this, just following orders no doubt.

Maybe the truth will ultimately come out on that. Maybe it never will. Maybe there are things I don't know about that situation so I shouldn't form my opinion too rashly. It just didn't look good.

Is that how the catholic church (there and elsewhere) performs in volatile situations? Keep a low profile? The Vatican had just come out with some rather strongly worded statements.

None of it makes sense. The church says one thing and everybody does something different down the chain.

It's really confusing when you are a floundering catholic yourself.

79 posted on 04/01/2005 8:07:08 AM PST by Aliska (Theresa Marie Schindler, December 3, 1963 - March 31, 2005, Never Forget)
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To: Nuzcruizer
Your glasses must be dirty or something is on your screen. there is NO cerebal cortex there at all.

You're stupider than I first thought.

80 posted on 04/01/2005 8:08:50 AM PST by jwalsh07
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