Family Feud Still Boils After Schiavo's Death

CNN ^ | 4/1/05

[ghostkatz]

That Felos guy is down right creepy. For him to say starving to death is beautiful reminds me of a book by George Orwell, "1984" where good was labeled as evil and vice verse. I also think God said the day would come when we would call good evil and evil is good, the hearts of men would grow cold and be given over to reprobate minds. Folks, this case is just more evidence that we are in the days spoken of in the Bible. People like Felos will become the norm, Ghostkatz

[diamond6]

Found this a little interesting.

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IS THERE A MYSTERIOUS DARK FORCE THAT HOVERS OVER THAT SPOT CALLED PINELLAS?

There is a mysterious feeling around the Schiavo case, and we wish we knew what it was.

The feeling is this: Pinellas County or parts of it seem to be under the oppression of a dark spirit. From Scripture we know that powers and principalities are the real force with which we contend, and that they hover over vicinities (see Daniel and the "prince of Persia").

Is there one hovering over towns in that county, towns with names like Pinellas Park and Clearwater?

These are places, of course, that figure prominently and at times bafflingly into the Schiavo catastrophe.

There is something in or over Pinellas that is darker than black.

Clearwater, as many of you may recall, is where there is that office building that once had a reflection of the Blessed Mother, perfectly proportionate to the Virgin of Guadalupe (who is the emblem of pro-life in the U.S.).

Last year, it was smashed.

We ran stories about that, and about how this area seems to be the epicenter of a spiritual war. We did not know that the epicenter would be for a quake of this magnitude.

The spirit seems to have a stranglehold on officials at all levels in this area. Let us not name names. There are many involved, and they are perhaps unknowingly blinded by the devil, who of course is prince of darkness. Is there a residue from pagan Indian worship? Is it the strip clubs, the lewdness? Is it an occult spirit?

Oh, many good people here, for sure; real warriors. So many devout people here. And they have their war cut out for them.

Strange vibrations. Could it be something in the air? Could it be a spiritual "hotspot"?

There is the headquarters for the Shriners, a seemingly innocuous group of Masons who ride around on tricycles and raise money for hospitals. That's actually in the next town called Tampa. There are fortune-telling parlors. In Clearwater itself, there is the headquarters for Scientology.

Is Scientology evil? It is certainly deceived. And it is certainly a cult.

Let's hover here a moment. And let's say this: the "church" of Scientology is certainly well-connected in the Pinellas area. A hotel Scientology owns called the Fort Harrison is its headquarters. Clearwater is near where Terri has been kept. It is home to Michael Schiavo. It is home to many players in this drama. Can a spirit rub off?

Ironically, Scientologists in Clearwater faced a major lawsuit a while ago over the death of a member named Lisa McPherson, who, the suit alleged, was isolated, starved, and dehydrated as part of an attempt to make her fall back into line. The lawsuit asserted that "Scientologists are ordered to and have been successful in infiltrating other organizations and government agencies, newspapers, medical associations, psychological associations, and psychiatric associations throughout the world." Scientology's "mecca" is Clearwater, says the literature.

The Church of Scientology was established by Lafayette Ronald Hubbard (1911-1986). He was a highly successful author, publishing hundreds of novels, novelettes and short stories, most of them science fiction.

In 1950, his book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health was published; it has since sold over twenty million copies worldwide. In 1951, Hubbard formed the religious philosophy of Scientology. The Founding Church of Scientology was opened in Washington, D.C. during 1955.

Scientologists follow Hubbard's belief that a person is neither mind nor body, but a spiritual being -- a soul. However, notes one website, the word "soul" is an ambiguous term, which had been given many meanings by many religions. In order to avoid confusion, Mr. Hubbard selected the word "thetan" from the Greek letter "theta" which has traditionally meant "thought" or "life."

"The magical cults of the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th centuries in the Middle East were fascinating," Hubbard once wrote. "The only modern work that has anything to do with them is a trifle wild in spots, but is a fascinating work in itself, and that's the work of Aleister Crowley -- the late Aleister Crowley -- my very good friend."

Crowley was one of the blackest figures in history, a man his own mother called "The Beast," and one who is cited as the inspiration for the Church of Satan.

Said Hubbard's son in an interview: "I believed in Satanism. There was no other religion in the house! Scientology and black magic. What a lot of people don't realize is that Scientology is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours or, at most, a few weeks. But in Scientology it's stretched out over a lifetime, and so you don't see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology --and it is probably the only part of Scientology that really works. Also, you've got to realize that my father did not worship Satan. He thought he was Satan. He was one with Satan."

Beware, Clearwater. Beware, Pinellas County!

What else is in Pinellas? What attracts a dark force? Oh, let us not be quick to condemn. Let us not deem the above as all evil. But it is very spooky.

Is there an occult virus in Pinellas? Or is something like Scientology just a symbol of the secular humanism that pervades our society?

Scientology, or at least certain Scientologists, have held the view that disabled people are a burden to society and founder L. Ronald Hubbard once lamented the way society "will not hear of euthanasia or 'mercy killing.'"

Oh, woe; woe when we rub the wrong elbow, Clearwater. A cult? Or just human blindness?

The devil is there and in many parts of the United States and around all of us when we exhibit arrogance. He was around police, around lawyers, around medical caregivers, around judges. He was around that poor kid who busted the image in that office building. Something in Clearwater!

Can we pin it to a cult? We can say that the devil has sway in any number of organizations and can cause a movement of darkness that surrounds men and offers them blindness. The Schiavo saga is at least that: one of blindness.

And so, yes, it appears as that the devil is the big winner, victor in the Schiavo case; it seems like that.

But there is resurrection after crucifixion (Christ showed that) and we have a knowledge that no cult possesses:

That the devil may look like the big victor right now -- yes, big victor! -- but that he loses, big-time, in every way, in the end.

[resources: Prayer of the Warrior]

[tomahawk]

The same brother of Michael Scumbag helped put Terri to death with his testimony.

3 people said she wanted to die, Michael Scumbug, the brother and the brother's wife.

[Aliska]

The brother and his wife complicit with the hearsay testimony, knowing full well that it was likely to end in her premature death.

They had a choice. They had other options.

[queenkathy]

Someone help me here. I saw an interview today on TV with Michaels brother Scott and his wife..A very large woman. I came into the interview late but the end was fascinating. Did I hear the wife right? She was one of Terri's nurses? At the hospice? And is she the one who testified to hearing Terri say to pull the plug? REal confused here...If that is the case...Conspiracy at the very least...Liars everyone of them..

[ghostkatz]

There is certainly something dark about the whole state of Florida (the so-called Sunshine State). Seems everyday some horrible thing comes out of the place. Florida is Satan's playground.

[pubmom]

I'm glad these people have been exposed for what and who they truly are.
I hope they are shunned.

[DollarCoins]

"Not a single other judge ever examined the facts... not one!"

If you think that the other judges do not look at the "facts" or evidence that judge Greer looked at you are DEAD WRONG. What the judges do not look at is any "new" evidence. How do you think that any of the other 19 judges could make a ruling without actually seeing facts of the case that was before Judge Greer and the basis on which he made his ruling? They look at the information and determine whether Greer followed the law. Which inevitably he did.

[Aliska]

There is a whole thread on that article, complete with pictures here:

Is There a Mysterious Dark Force that Hovers over that Place Called Pinellas

You might find some of the comments interesting.

[KC_Conspirator]

The husband did not even let the family in to see her before she died, just another in a long list of dispicable behavior by him. Yet somehow CNN wants to project that there is some sort of moral equivalence to him and the family?

[AmericanChef]

-Husband's brother says he'll never forgive Schindlers-

An accomplice to murder speaks.

[Nuzcruizer]

"She was 41 and had been incapacitated since 1990, when she suffered a heart attack that caused permanent brain damage." Thats B.S. THIS WOMAN WAS MURDERED."

What B.S. It's the truth, whether you want to accept it or not. She was technicaly dead when her brain died. she was not concious, self-aware.

DR.Ronald E.CRANFORD: "[This] shows extremely severe atrophy. Where those black areas are, that should be white. That should be cerebral cortex, and so really there is no cerebral cortex left. It's just a shrinkage of the cerebral cortex. It's a thin band of white on the outside and any neurologist or any radiologist looking at those CT scans will tell you that her atrophy could not be more severe than it is. So even if she were mentally conscious, which she's not, she's irreversible. She's been like this for 15 years, Dan, and that CT scan shows the most extreme severe atrophy of the higher centers of the brain."

"This is a loving, caring family but they're wrong. And they've known they've been wrong. She's been diagnosed a vegetative state ever since the early 1990s. They were told that repeatedly in the early 1990s. It's wishful thinking on the part of parents who dearly love their daughter and don't want her to be in the vegetative state she's in. But Dan, there's really no doubt whatsoever. " "One of the seven doctors who actually examined her who said beyond any doubt she's in a vegetative state. So there's just no doubt about the diagnosis. I know there's sympathy for the family. When you see those pictures, it looks like Terri is interacting, but do you know what? She's really not. That's what the vegetative state is. It looks like they're interacting, but they're really not. And there's nothing I can do to change that."

She was gone long ago. As can be clearly see, there is no brainleft, just the outer sack, the entire cerebral cortex is gone. That's like saying the lamp is working although it's not plugged in.

"Murder" is a strong word to use when the 'person' isn't in the body.

It don't see what the harm was in letting her body live, if only for the benifit of her parents, but there was no benifit to her.

[proudofthesouth]

I don't know for certain if this is true but I heard on the radio this morning that 5 minutes after Terri died, MS was nowhere to be found at the hospice. He had already left.

[Diogenesis]

I see a lot of brain, and a lot of treatment needed.

This Atrocity is Judicial Murder by Starvation and Dehydration

ALL JUDGES INVOLVED SHOULD BE IMPEACHED FOR CONSIPIRACY TO MURDER

Guilty - Pinellas County Judges, Hospice, LE, and Crematoria

Guilty - the Nazi-proTerrorist Judiciary.

[Nuzcruizer]

"She would not have wanted to feel the sun on her face for the past five years. She would not have wanted to listen to music, be surrounded by pretty things or had the smell of flowers in her room these past 13 years."

What rubbish. She never 'felt' anything. She neve 'smelled' anything. She never saw anything. she was not 'aware' of anything. She could not 'think'. Here's why:

You need a brain to do those things, or at least part of one that is 'plugged in'. The cerebal cortex is the "plug", the main part of the brain which carries all these signals. It's missing entirely. No matter how much you insist otherwize, the FACTS are right in front of you that prove otherwize. All you are doing is fabricating drama.

[nmh]

These two families will be at each other till they draw their last breathe and nothing will be accomplished by it.

I'm glad Christ didn't harbor such rancor when He was on the cross for everyone.

[Polyxene]

I hope the Schindlers file a wrongful death suit and name everyone involved as defendants -- the HINO, Felos, Greer, the "hospice", et al. I would even be tempted to add the State of Florida to that list.

[Nuzcruizer]

"I see a lot of brain, and a lot of treatment needed."

Your glasses must be dirty or something is on your screen. there is NO cerebal cortex there at all. What little bits of material that are there is cartlage and chambers where grey matter used to be, plus it isn't connected to the cerebal cortex, because there is no cerebal cortex.

Rehab. What a laugh. There is nothing to rehabilitate. Plus there was no more money left to do it with, unless you are willing to pay the $80,000 a year it costs to keep her alive artificialy.

[Diogenesis]

You are lying again. Those CTs are at different levels.
But then you that, too.

Get a brain, then a heart.

[AaronInCarolina]

The same brother of Michael Scumbag helped put Terri to death with his testimony.

No. That would be Scott Schiavo. But all 3 brothers had their parents feeding tubes removed.