Illinois Drugstores Required to Fill Birth Control Prescriptions

LA Times ^ | 4/02/2005 | Stephanie Simon

[muawiyah]

Don't you imagine the background issue is really one of liability? Illinois has a real problem. Doctors are actually fleeing the state. Pharmacists might well be electing to not dispense any drug which has a certain death or injury rate, which is a problem with some of the "morning after" concoctions.

The Governor of Illinois has demonstrated repeatedly that he does not wish to disturb the medical liability lawsuit situation.

It's not likely that he's going to be able to get around it with the issuance of Executive Orders.

[softwarecreator]

I see your pattern, muawiyah.

You post a bunch of replies, thing get hot, arguments occcur.

you leave for a few hours.

Everyone leaves and moves on.

you then come back and answer all the previous posts in one sitting to people who are no longer there to argue your points.

Good plan.

[softwarecreator]

You did not address the question of ordering a ham sandwich at a kosher deli.

Look at post #107

[muawiyah]

Your the guy who said: "What? Where are you getting your info from? This is just your opinion, muawiyah, and a pretty unfair and unsubstaniated analogy.

It wasn't just my opinion that prescription drugs in the US are regulated and I was discussing the issue from that perspective.

[muawiyah]

Your date of creation as a FR poster is pretty recent ~ 3 days, eh?

So, welcome.

Actually other people come back. That's one of the joys of this particular board ~ arguments can continue for days and days.

In fact, years ago you'd go to FR and folks would be dukeing it out like it was an IM feature. Improvements have been made so that we can get away from that.

So, yes, something gets going, I make a few comments ~ maybe a hot one, and then a whole big bunch of folks come back and make comments ~ sometimes agreeing with me and sometimes agreeing with you. I try to deal with each one of them

There are, of course, snobs who refuse to deal with any comment contrary to their own. Every now and then I'll target one of those guys until he comes and tells us what he really wants to say.

[softwarecreator]

No, muawiyah, your quote was:
These are all highly regulated by jackbooted thugs from a federal agency

Somehow this does little to show your understanding of how "prescription drugs in the US are regulated".

See what I mean? You change the subject around to something not being discussed. Someone pointed this out to you earlier in the thread, as well.

[muawiyah]

That one appears to be a Jewish clerk handling a ham sandwich. BTW, we have a SUBWAY sandwich shop in our neighborhood. All the employees are Moslems. They wear those plastic gloves so they NEVER touch anything, particularly not the bacon for the BLTs.

I think the Jewish prohibition is on eating ham sandwiches, not selling them!

[softwarecreator]

There are, of course, snobs who refuse to deal with any comment contrary to their own. Every now and then I'll target one of those guys until he comes and tells us what he really wants to say.

Agree with you on this one.

see, we can reach a mutual agreement on a subject! =)

[muawiyah]

I think you're trying to discuss a totally different subject. My issue here is that the Governor is not only evil (which he is), he is establishing conditions for the vending of prescription medicines in his state.

That simply is not a state question ~ it's a federal question. In fact, the regulation of prescription drugs is so far outside of Illinois' job description, I can't believe the Governor managed to find a lawyer to draft his executive order.

It's not like this is the first time a state has attempted to regulate federally regulated drugs, and it probably won't be the last, but until that issue is addressed the Governor is just huffing.

[softwarecreator]

I think the Jewish prohibition is on eating ham sandwiches, not selling them!

This was not my quote. I just said that the analogy was good and the point was that if they had objections to selling them, they should find a new job. Come on, man, don't interject words and read more into posts then what is said.

heading out, talk to you later. Enjoy you day!

[goldstategop]

The Left wants pharmacists to violate their conscience as well force them to conduct business regardless of ethical concerns. Hey, its just a pill, right? And sure - starvation is a form of nutrition.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[muawiyah]

Hope you had a good time. Remember, in a hot discussion people read quickly, and with this new feature that lets us track backwards through a discussion, it's going to be easy to misconstrue who hit who over the head with what and when!

[goldstategop]

No one is forcing people to obtain birth control or morning after pills from a certain pharmacy. They're free to shop around. And they can always go to Planned Parenthood if no local pharmacy carries them. In a free country, the customer has choices but a business also has the freedom to decide what products it wants to sell. And Commie Blago is now making that decision for Illinois pharmacies. Remember, this is the same crowd that railed against government interference in Terri Schiavo's murder. Apparently, some forms of government interference are more acceptable than others.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[goldstategop]

Liberals should just nationalize pharmacies! That's what they really want but they don't have the guts to come out and do it. So they push socialized medicine on us incrementally... Real brave of them.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[goldstategop]

Let's see: you can't make an executive order transferring an innocent condemned woman out of a homicidal judge's clutches but you can make an executive order bossing around pharmacies. Our country certainly has its priorities well in hand.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[SALChamps03]

If there is a demand for a drugstore that will fill these prescriptions without any question, then the market will assure that one exists. I assume you took economics in high school.

[Oztrich Boy]

What the evil governor of Illinois has ordered is for anyone who sells condoms to sell BC available only under a prescription.

That is a lie.

[muawiyah]

You mean I misinterpreted what someone might mean by "contraception"?

Oh, my bad!

There, that having been satisfied, the evil governor of Illinois continues to reject facing up to the medical professional malpractice liability disaster now rolling through every profession in the state with a medical connection. Shortly he's going to find that Executive Orders issued by a Governor respecting the vending of drugs closely regulated by the FDA (a federal government agency) doesn't protect him and he's going to have to go back to his pro-abortion campaign support groups with the bad news.

Now, what were you saying?

[muawiyah]

Did you want me to comment on your debating technique as well? For what it's worth, it's pitiful.

[middie]

no, liability is a non-issue,,,